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Title: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 09 June 2008, 18:48:27
Help please, i know that omegas are pre wired for the telephone system, the book also states this and i have been told it also. i have looked everywhere for the black box, i was told to look behind the glove box, i have, to no avail, i have looked all over the place, both kick panels and behind the radio.....nothing.

Does anyone have any clues to where it would be, the car is a 2004 omega gls.
Thanks
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: Dave DND on 09 June 2008, 19:39:30
I know many of the Omega stereos (ccrt700 etc) have the phone gubbins actually built into the phone itself - no seperate black box as far as I am aware - others may know better?

 :-/
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: HolyCount on 09 June 2008, 19:43:44
I don't think they are wired for a telephone system per se. Some have, as an option, I gather, the wiring to allow you to interface your own phones handsfree set with the stereo -- causing the stereo to mute when a call comes in and directing the call through the stereo speaker system. In this case I believe the wiring and connectors are to be found behind the glovebox ----- no connector -- no wiring, I guess
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: Mike Collins on 09 June 2008, 20:31:42
There is a connector taped to the air duct behind the glovebox, it has power, microphone and feed to the radio.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: stuart30 on 09 June 2008, 20:36:10
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There is a connector taped to the air duct behind the glovebox, it has power, microphone and feed to the radio.


I dont suppose that would apply too a "99 2.2 GLS would it.... :-/
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: HolyCount on 09 June 2008, 20:37:17
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There is a connector taped to the air duct behind the glovebox, it has power, microphone and feed to the radio.

What models are these on, Mike ?
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 09 June 2008, 20:44:54
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There is a connector taped to the air duct behind the glovebox, it has power, microphone and feed to the radio.

Thanks Mike, i was looking for a module box of some sort, its just a connector is it.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 09 June 2008, 20:49:46
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I don't think they are wired for a telephone system per se. Some have, as an option, I gather, the wiring to allow you to interface your own phones handsfree set with the stereo -- causing the stereo to mute when a call comes in and directing the call through the stereo speaker system. In this case I believe the wiring and connectors are to be found behind the glovebox ----- no connector -- no wiring, I guess

Vauxhall inform me that all omegas are pre wired and did say the connector is behind the glove box, i was looking for some sort of box as opposed to a connector.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2008, 22:43:55
Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: VXL V6 on 09 June 2008, 22:44:50
It's taped to a bar at the top of the glovebox, unless you have 'gadget hands' you'll need to take the glovebox out.

On mine it was taped up with masking tape seperately to the other loom.

 (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa163/vxl_v6/PhoneConnector.jpg)

EDIT: As TB says, if the wiring / aerial is present you'll need the aerial link cable to join the kit to the roof antenna: 93160392 – Aerial Cable - £15.16.

Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 09 June 2008, 22:55:58
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Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit


Thanks Jamie, it does. and i found the aerial in driver side kick panel, i have the nokia CARK 91 coming tomorrow
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2008, 22:59:36
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Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit


Thanks Jamie, it does. and i found the aerial in driver side kick panel, i have the nokia CARK 91 coming tomorrow
Blimey, CARK 91 is a bit old!

I think I still have a few here ;D
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 09 June 2008, 23:09:46
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Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit


Thanks Jamie, it does. and i found the aerial in driver side kick panel, i have the nokia CARK 91 coming tomorrow
Blimey, CARK 91 is a bit old!

I think I still have a few here ;D

I still use the nokia 6310i for business, i find it a great phone, does the job..makes phone calls.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: Danny on 09 June 2008, 23:12:52
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Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit


Thanks Jamie, it does. and i found the aerial in driver side kick panel, i have the nokia CARK 91 coming tomorrow
Blimey, CARK 91 is a bit old!

I think I still have a few here ;D

I still use the nokia 6310i for business, i find it a great phone, does the job..makes phone calls.... ;D ;D ;D

still a very popular phone and HIGHLY spoke of!
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: CaptainZok on 09 June 2008, 23:13:47
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Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit


Thanks Jamie, it does. and i found the aerial in driver side kick panel, i have the nokia CARK 91 coming tomorrow
Blimey, CARK 91 is a bit old!

I think I still have a few here ;D
So is Miggy.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 09 June 2008, 23:17:44
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Not all omegas are prewired. If it has the cellular aerial, it is.

16 pin connector taped to glovebox, aerial in kick panel.  Need an autolead, mic, and hf kit


Thanks Jamie, it does. and i found the aerial in driver side kick panel, i have the nokia CARK 91 coming tomorrow
Blimey, CARK 91 is a bit old!

I think I still have a few here ;D
So is Miggy.


Git.................thanks guys for all your advice/help   :y :y :y
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: VXL V6 on 09 June 2008, 23:30:11
These pics may help.

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa163/vxl_v6/PhoneInstall3.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa163/vxl_v6/PhoneInstall6.jpg)
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: Mike Collins on 10 June 2008, 08:33:42
That connector was present on my last three omegas, 97, 98, 03 and a 2001 Vectra.

You can connect your car kit straight to it. There are pins for 12V, 12V ign, radio mute, audio in to radio and microphone in the interior light.

The internal mic probably won't work, it's an active device and needs power.

The audio in to the radio will work as long as you have the transformer in the relay panel by the fusebox. Both my 98 Elite and 03 CDX had it.

Somewhere I have the pin assignments, if you need them I'll try to dig them out.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 14 June 2008, 15:40:12
Help, I have connected the handsfree phone using the phone loom in the miggy, the phone and everything else works a treat, spot on.

The only problem with it is that when i put the phone in the cradle it should charge but the phone display reads NOT CHARGING.

I have checked all the wireing and fuses and all seems fine, i have tried another phone and it says the same.

Anyone any ideas.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: TheBoy on 14 June 2008, 19:58:09
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Help, I have connected the handsfree phone using the phone loom in the miggy, the phone and everything else works a treat, spot on.

The only problem with it is that when i put the phone in the cradle it should charge but the phone display reads NOT CHARGING.

I have checked all the wireing and fuses and all seems fine, i have tried another phone and it says the same.

Anyone any ideas.
Check with mobile manufacturer for firmware update.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 15 June 2008, 18:42:45
Thanks for all your replys and help, peoblem solved, it was a broken diode connection in the main box of the nokia brains, new box now on route to me.


 :y :y :y
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: HolyCount on 15 June 2008, 19:48:43
Good to know it's not a problem with the migs wiring  :y
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 16 June 2008, 19:27:39
I also forgot to mention i can also use the built in mic in the interior light, it works really good, very clear and loud whilst speaking to people.

 :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: Dazzler on 17 June 2008, 08:56:53
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I also forgot to mention i can also use the built in mic in the interior light, it works really good, very clear and loud whilst speaking to people.

 :y :y :y :y
So did you just splice in then Miggy, or did you get the Autoleads lead??
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: tmx on 17 June 2008, 12:48:55
not charging is an issue with the phone

nokia have 2 types of charger same plug different currents

the not charging issue is caused by the older chargers from the mid nineties

and now nokia have again just changed chargers to another type!
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: VXL V6 on 17 June 2008, 13:24:15
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not charging is an issue with the phone

nokia have 2 types of charger same plug different currents

the not charging issue is caused by the older chargers from the mid nineties

and now nokia have again just changed chargers to another type!

Not a mains charger or cigarette lighter charger, this is a fully integrated Cark91 car kit.  :y
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: tmx on 17 June 2008, 13:51:50
i assumed the CARK had the same issues as the chargers do!
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: TheBoy on 17 June 2008, 18:28:08
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i assumed the CARK had the same issues as the chargers do!
Nope, the CARK happily charge 5110/61x0/6210/6310 range of phones without issue.
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 17 June 2008, 20:08:49
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I also forgot to mention i can also use the built in mic in the interior light, it works really good, very clear and loud whilst speaking to people.

 :y :y :y :y
So did you just splice in then Miggy, or did you get the Autoleads lead??

I got the autoleads
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: miggy on 17 June 2008, 20:09:53
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not charging is an issue with the phone

nokia have 2 types of charger same plug different currents

the not charging issue is caused by the older chargers from the mid nineties

and now nokia have again just changed chargers to another type!

The not charging was an issue with the box, changed the box now everything is good. :y :y
Title: Re: pre wired telephone
Post by: HolyCount on 18 June 2008, 18:10:25
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I also forgot to mention i can also use the built in mic in the interior light, it works really good, very clear and loud whilst speaking to people.

 :y :y :y :y
So did you just splice in then Miggy, or did you get the Autoleads lead??


I got the autoleads

What lead did you use, Miggy, and where,pray, did it come from ??