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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: PMW on 07 October 2006, 17:18:57

Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: PMW on 07 October 2006, 17:18:57
Hi, I have a 2000 2.5 cdx with CCR2006 fitted. I have located the radio mute cable above glove box but it does not fit any connectors on my hands free kit. What is needed / what does it connect to? Does this connector power hands free kit? Many thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: TheBoy on 07 October 2006, 17:23:26
Autoleads do an adapter that works with old style nokia (can be modified to work with new style nokia as well), this does also power carkit, and also redirects phone audio through stereo. What is less clear is whether it connects mic (if fitted in courtesy light), or if you have to add mic as usual...
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: PMW on 07 October 2006, 17:25:30
Thanks for that, very swift! I do have mic in courtesy light.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: TheBoy on 07 October 2006, 18:05:04
Post back here is you find a definate answer about mic :)
Title: Re: Radio mute FAO:THE BOY
Post by: PMW on 11 October 2006, 17:25:19
Hi again, I think this link explains all. The picture at bottom of page is the loom I have found behind glove box. I read it as suggesting I need the relay but it does not state where to install on Omega. Your views would be apreciated before I order. I have a Nokia Cark 134 hand free kit.
To remind you I have 2.5cdx yr2000 with built in mic.
http://www.siocommunications.co.uk/06-102RB.html
philip@pwphotographic.co.uk
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Title: The definitive answer!!
Post by: PMW on 11 October 2006, 18:53:39
http://www.siocommunications.co.uk/06-102RB.html
Terry at Sio Communications has confirmed that if your Omega has the hidden loom behind glovebox you require the '06-102B' lead.
CCR2005 or better unit does not require a relay, all others require '06-100' relay.
Prices are a little less than other 'Autoleads' suppliers.
The whole kit eliminates the need to remove radio & try to squeeze the connectors behind.
I am told it will connect the mic in light & volume is controlled from steering wheel.
The '06-102B' has fitting for latest Nokia kit, a cheap adapter required for all others.
Will confirm when fitted.
Is this perhaps useful for your 'How to' section.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: TheBoy on 11 October 2006, 19:56:59
I use siocommunications.

I can confirm that steering wheel controls work with phone for volume only when connected via 16 pin adapter by glove box.

Take some piccies when you fit yours, do a little write up, and make a decent how2 out of it ;)
Title: RESULT!
Post by: PMW on 14 October 2006, 17:54:16
To repeat last post:
http://www.siocommunications.co.uk/06-102RB.html
Terry at Sio Communications has confirmed that if your Omega has the hidden loom behind glovebox you require the '06-102B' lead.
CCR2005 or better unit does not require a relay, all others require '06-100' relay.
Prices are a little less than other 'Autoleads' suppliers.
The whole kit eliminates the need to remove radio & try to squeeze the connectors behind.
I am told it will connect the mic in light & volume is controlled from steering wheel.
The '06-102B' has fitting for latest Nokia kit, a cheap adapter required for all others.
I can confirm the whole job takes 5 minutes. Simplicity itself. Only problem I had was that my built-in mic did not work & had to run the Nokia one up to head-lining by mirror.
Volume of incoming call is controlled by steering wheel radio buttons.
Radio returns as soon as call ended.
In my case even finding the loom was easy. Just released the three studs fixing lining behind glove box and reach up, there it was.
Total cost: £38. (£32 if you have recent Nokia kit)/me
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: kcl on 05 December 2006, 10:54:44
Mine is a 2001 with CCR2006 BOSE. Do I need something special because of this BOSe sound system? I read somewhere that BOSE system would need a relay or something to avoid damaging the amp. At the moment I've got Nokia CARK91 modified to fit PoPort -phones, but it uses Nokia's own speaker and has no mute-function (don't really need the mute, I've also got a passive handset) and it would be nice to have display displaying the "Message", phone sound from "real" speakers and the mute...but i'm worried that can I damage the amp by doing what is told above?
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2006, 10:59:15
The above method should work fine as the phone signal is fed into the CCR2006 and this then feeds the Bose amp.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: PMW on 05 December 2006, 10:59:27
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Mine is a 2001 with CCR2006 BOSE. Do I need something special because of this BOSe sound system? I read somewhere that BOSE system would need a relay or something to avoid damaging the amp. At the moment I've got Nokia CARK91 modified to fit PoPort -phones, but it uses Nokia's own speaker and has no mute-function (don't really need the mute, I've also got a passive handset) and it would be nice to have display displaying the "Message", phone sound from "real" speakers and the mute...but i'm worried that can I damage the amp by doing what is told above?

I suggest talking to this chap as he appears to know it all.
http://www.siocommunications.co.uk/06-102RB.html
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: kcl on 05 December 2006, 11:23:13
Wow, I'm impressed with the rapid answers! Thanks! Mark's comment makes sense, I'll try that... As Finnish telecom stores do not have any wiring to sell (strange enough, but true...) would anyone happen to have the pinout of these wiring looms/sockets so I could solder the connections on my own?
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2006, 12:17:42
Leave it with me, if I get chance tonight I will post pinout and wiring info.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: Boiler Man on 06 December 2006, 00:16:51
Hi Guys

Just bought a Parrot kit and two leads from http://www.siocommunications.co.uk. Also rang them first and Terry was more than helpfull. Pleasure to do business with them.

I used the above lead and also a connector for the Parrot. Dead easy. Just plugged the above into the flying lead behind the glove box. Didnt need a relay as 2003 model.

The factory fitted mic didnt work, reason being as I found when I removed the courtesy light to fit the Parrot Mic, was that the previous animal who removed the old kit had cut it off, cable left in.  >:(

Having said all that, it was easy to fit the Parrot mic next to the rear view mirror, routing the cable up the pillar and across above the head lining. All the above I did after some great advice from this Forum. :y

Think there might be a slight diferance with the Bose :-/ But check with Terry. :y
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 December 2006, 09:43:29
Heres some detail which might be useful:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/FaceliftRadio.jpg)

The circuit diagram shows three connections in the top right, two are an audio feed and one is a select line.

The connector pin out is as follows:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b394/Marks_DTM_Calib/FaceliftConnector.jpg)
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: kcl on 06 December 2006, 17:54:58
Thanks again, dudes... I've found the connector that the autolead 06-102RB should be connected but I'd like to see its pinout...or the I'll just try to order one...
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 December 2006, 10:04:47
If I get 10 mins tonight I will see if I can dig the info out for you.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: kcl on 12 December 2006, 06:11:34
Hi! Got the wiring sorted out, connected the handsfree to the prewiring and it worked with my Nokia 6310i but when trying with PopPort adapter and my Nokia E50 no sound from speakers?! WTF?! Any ideas where to start...? Powers up ok but that's it. The old phone works as it should, gives the "message" text, sound comes out from the car speakers etc. Without using the prewiring (all-Nokia system) the E50 worked just fine without mute-function and with nokia speaker.
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: kcl on 15 December 2006, 13:26:56
Anyone?
Title: Re: Radio mute
Post by: nixoro on 15 December 2006, 13:45:42
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Anyone?

Could it be an issue with the way the PopPort connects into the wiring or even the connector on the PopPort

Just an Idea
Title: Re: Radio mute + pin outs
Post by: the_bed_wrecker on 18 July 2008, 16:48:59
Hi, has anybody got the pin outs for the Audio cables ? My eyes arnt that good but pics on this tread would be what I'am looking for.
Cheers
TBW :question