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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Tonybazza on 20 August 2008, 14:55:52
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Hello all i am new to this forum so please be kind lol.
I have just got a 2lt cdx t reg that had a jvc all in one head unit with no cd changer got a ccr600 and cdc2 from fleebay hoping to get the stearing wheel controls to work .
installed the head unit and all controls work fine very happy but i cant find any wires in the boot for the cd changer ?
whould there be any ? if so where? and if not can i get some and is it easy to install.
Thanks Tony
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it usually lives in the boot in the same compartment as the first aid box The Boy will problably know if its pre wired or not! if its not then its only slightly challenging to wire it in
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cdx should have the cd changer cable. It should be around the cubby hole in the boot, drivers side.
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Thnaks for your replies i have looked everywhere in that location the only wires that i can see are 1 large wire going up and into the rear window area behind the uper part of the rear seats and some coming from a black unit just back from where the filler pipe is heading to the number plate area nothing that looks right.
but at the fascia end i have all the right wires and my info screen shows the radio channels and when i go to the cd it says not conected.
please can you adv the best way to over come this i.e new cable where to get one from and the best way to fit .
i live in devon near crediton so if any member is close by and fancies making a few quid to help me out that will be ok to.
Thanks
Tony (just listening to some old tapes lol)
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changer cable is cable tied to the ridge on wheel arch that you can see from cubby hole.
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Thanks again for your quick reply i have had a good look and cant find any i have added some pics . am i looking in the right place??
if so what can i try next.
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Yup, thats missing ;D
might find it where it comes through between seat and boot, but if its been cut, may be easier to replace loom from drivers footwell...
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Check the drivers foot well, see if its been removed right back to there.
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Check the drivers foot well, see if its been removed right back to there.
Does the aerial amp wiring run in same loom?
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Check the drivers foot well, see if its been removed right back to there.
Does the aerial amp wiring run in same loom?
The switched radio feed is in that connector to support the bose amp but, the feed fo the aerial amp is not in that loom, it runs down the other side.
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Check the drivers foot well, see if its been removed right back to there.
Does the aerial amp wiring run in same loom?
The switched radio feed is in that connector to support the bose amp but, the feed fo the aerial amp is not in that loom, it runs down the other side.
Ah right :y
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Thanks all. My nieghbours think i am mad sat in the car taking pics of the seat lol but it had to be done i found these wires behind the seat after pulling some carpet away the wire has been cut and taped up am i on the right track if so can you buy the connector that would fit into the cd changer that i could rewire from where its been cut?
thanks agian for your help but this is fun lol.
Tony
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Somebody has been fitting an amp or chav box
Remove the seat back side, and photo that (remove bench, then you'll see a tab that holds seat back side in place - bend this, then lift the side out)
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Thanks again i am not to sure what you want me to take out but i keep finding wires first i cant find any now i have loads but still dont know what to do lol.
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Don't join them all together!
Seriously if you are looking for connectors/plugs ask on here under parts wanted - lots of people are breaking omegas and would supply a length of loom cheaply.
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might find it where it comes through between seat and boot, but if its been cut, may be easier to replace loom from drivers footwell...
Hi again if this is the case where can i find the cables in the footwell ? and will this be on a connecter block or will i have to brake the loom please advise on my next move.
Thanks Tony
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might find it where it comes through between seat and boot, but if its been cut, may be easier to replace loom from drivers footwell...
Hi again if this is the case where can i find the cables in the footwell ? and will this be on a connecter block or will i have to brake the loom please advise on my next move.
Thanks Tony
The CD cables run to a connector block behind the right side panel in the drivers foot well. I would obtain a loom from a scrapper and replace this self contained loom.
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Thanks for you quick reply i will go down that route i will also put a add in the wanted section will this be a hard job to do ? do you have to take lots of panels of or can i put the changer under the passager seat?
Thanks Tony
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Thanks for you quick reply i will go down that route i will also put a add in the wanted section will this be a hard job to do ? do you have to take lots of panels of or can i put the changer under the passager seat?
Thanks Tony
Easy enough to do, you simply remove the drivers kick panel and the sill trims on the drivers side...
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Thanks
I cant seem to post in the wanted area if anyone has the part that i am looking for please Pm or email.
Thank you all for your help great site.
Tony
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After taking the panels of from the front drivers footwell i have posted some pics please can anyone tell me what wires i am looking for as i still cant find the wires for the cd changer (well i dont know what i am looking for really)lot of wires but nothing says cd changer on in bright yellow pen lol.
Thanks Tony p.s what does that silver box with an aereil do is it some amp ?
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Please can anyone help with my last post as i have still got half the car in bits lol. and we are of shopping tomorrow
Thanks
Tony
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in the kick panel (the plastic panel behind bonnet realease) you will see a large connector in from of alarm ecu, with some loopback cables in it and the rest going down the sill....
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Hi i cant find any such cables in the footwell could have been taken right back to the head unit ?
my local bracker has a p reg with a philips changer in the boot can i take the cable from that and if so can i take it back to the head unit what shoul;d i be looking out for?
Thanks again but i would like to get this done today oneway or the other. i am running out of good tapes to play lol.
Thanks Tony
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Hi i cant find any such cables in the footwell could have been taken right back to the head unit ?
my local bracker has a p reg with a philips changer in the boot can i take the cable from that and if so can i take it back to the head unit what shoul;d i be looking out for?
Thanks again but i would like to get this done today oneway or the other. i am running out of good tapes to play lol.
Thanks Tony
Philips one no good.
Take a picture of the ecu mounted behind the plastic kick panel behind the bonnet release lever.
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Thanks for your reply i have put some pis up they are already up i hope put them up 2 days ago.
Thanks Tony
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Thanks for your reply i have put some pis up they are already up i hope put them up 2 days ago.
Thanks Tony
None of behind that kick panel though.
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Hi am i being a total nut but the pics i have uploaded before are from behind the black panel to the right of where your right foot would be and the bonet release leaver is !! i have uploaded some more from a dif angel if this is the wrong place then i am stumped but i see no big conector but thanks for your time trying to help.
Tony
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You see in first pic a large ecu with GA on it? See it has a threaded stud either side of it? That is where the large connector normally is. Yours isn't there :-/
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The loom to the head unit is missing too then...should be a lot of fun putting all of that back!!
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Thanks for the replies so i have been looking for something that is not there lol thought i was going mad ,
so the loom from the head unit to where that ecu and bracket is will be of a job to refit then! what do you think ? will i have to take half the dash out .
Thanks Tony
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its fairly simple to wire from the radio end from memory it just needs
Control links 1x Pair cable yellow and blue
Right and L audio channels and a ground feed it needs an electricity supply however!
did have an entire omega cdc loom but mrs tmx threw it out :(
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I have 2 elites here with CDR800 and CDC2,will have all the loom too...think the head unit to drivers footwell is a PITA to get out, rest is easyish...not sure if CDR800 or CDR600 makes a difference loom wise?? If they are the same then can sort out a loom for you mate
Or if interested can do you the full thing to upgrade to Bose...CCR800 head unit with code, loom, 4 bose door speakers, bose shelf speakers and amp...
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Thanks again for your reply (can you intall it to lol lol) i will be very interested in some prices if the loom is to much of a pig to get out and then me to install then it might be out of my league when it comes to patience as my only tools are hammers lol .
At the moment i have the ccr600 and blu crc2 both with codes the car came with a sony single cd head unit and the wheel controls did not work . so i got the ccr600 and the controls work fine but with no cd loom . what is the ccr800 like? doe's the ccr800 have a single cd and radio if so that would do me fine as i only have 2 or 3 cd lol but only one tape now 27 lol.
Please advise.
Thanks Tony
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Thanks again for your reply (can you intall it to lol lol) i will be very interested in some prices if the loom is to much of a pig to get out and then me to install then it might be out of my league when it comes to patience as my only tools are hammers lol .
At the moment i have the ccr600 and blu crc2 both with codes the car came with a sony single cd head unit and the wheel controls did not work . so i got the ccr600 and the controls work fine but with no cd loom . what is the ccr800 like? doe's the ccr800 have a single cd and radio if so that would do me fine as i only have 2 or 3 cd lol but only one tape now 27 lol.
Please advise.
Thanks Tony
CCR800 is identical to CCR600, but for use with Bose amp.
Retro fitting CCR800/Bose as an upgrade to CCR600 - run the bose loom down drivers side of car, hardest bit is fitting bose shelf, as parcel shelf needs to come out, and thats tedious.
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Thanks again for your reply (can you intall it to lol lol) i will be very interested in some prices if the loom is to much of a pig to get out and then me to install then it might be out of my league when it comes to patience as my only tools are hammers lol .
At the moment i have the ccr600 and blu crc2 both with codes the car came with a sony single cd head unit and the wheel controls did not work . so i got the ccr600 and the controls work fine but with no cd loom . what is the ccr800 like? doe's the ccr800 have a single cd and radio if so that would do me fine as i only have 2 or 3 cd lol but only one tape now 27 lol.
Please advise.
Thanks Tony
As far as I understand the loom from head to footwell is only a bit of a pig because a) its entwined/taped to the rest of the wiring behind the dashboard and b) its behind the dashboard lol
Probably straightforward once its out to get back in place on another car...wiring from footwell to boot is straightforward...
Rest is pretty straightforward too but as said, removing parcel shelf is a pain (unless your removing from a scrap car in which case you can just rip the bits out you dont need! lol) Could probably wire it up for you but would cost a fortune as your in Devon lol Better to find someone closer to help you I'm sure and most likely members that are better at wiring than me closer anyway :)
Will PM you some prices mate...
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Thanks everyone for your help on this topic but i have come to a decision I am going to keep the car as is as the hole loom thing sounds to hard for me to sort out . I was lucky enough to win the ccr600 and cdc2 of ebay for £20 hoping that the loom was where it should have been but obviously i am loomless . i was very lucky with the car its a T reg with 102.000 on and after a bit of a car swopy thing it only stands me in at about £200 . so if my wife passes her test in the next month or 2 i will get myself 3.0 MV6 with all the bells and whistles . I thanks all of you that have spent the time helping me with this mater and it is greatly apprieciated . but i think if i spend £100 £150 to upgrade what i have that could go on the price of the MV6.
Thanks again
Tony
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Thanks everyone for your help on this topic but i have come to a decision I am going to keep the car as is as the hole loom thing sounds to hard for me to sort out . I was lucky enough to win the ccr600 and cdc2 of ebay for £20 hoping that the loom was where it should have been but obviously i am loomless . i was very lucky with the car its a T reg with 102.000 on and after a bit of a car swopy thing it only stands me in at about £200 . so if my wife passes her test in the next month or 2 i will get myself 3.0 MV6 with all the bells and whistles . I thanks all of you that have spent the time helping me with this mater and it is greatly apprieciated . but i think if i spend £100 £150 to upgrade what i have that could go on the price of the MV6.
Thanks again
Tony
That bit from HU to footwell must be about somewhere - it carries the speaker signals. Its grey, about 4" long, and must have part of CD loom in (most of cables in part of the CD lomm will simply be short loops. Seen anything like that?