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Title: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 02 September 2008, 18:31:35
Hello chaps,

My rear side lights and brake lights dont work, the high level light does though.

there is no power up the loom for the brake or side lights when checking behide the rear seat.

There is a live for the tow bar side lights though the brake light in that loom is not working.

Any idea's chaps?

All fuses and bulbs are fine
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 02 September 2008, 19:08:43
Are all rear lights out?

Whats the fuel gauge doing?

Is the earth point in the boot ok (on a saloon its behind the plastic trim that covers the rear slam panel
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 02 September 2008, 19:16:06
Fuel gauge is fine

Rear fogs and indicators work.

I've checked the loom running down the N/S of the car - there is power for the side lights in towing bar loom wires but on the grey/red and grey/black for the side lights.

The front lights work fine,

The high level light is fine as well



Doing my head in now :(


I know I can "repair" by using the feed for the high level light and the side lights to the tow bar but I would rarther fix the problem it's self
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 02 September 2008, 20:26:13
Lost head lights as well...

Could it be the blub check unit that has died?

On the Supra's when the blub check unit goes on them you lose all the lights it checks..
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 09:36:53
Any one any idea's before I rewire the from the fuse box back to the lights?
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 September 2008, 10:03:38
What does not make sense is that the high elvel light still works!

Which head lights have you lost, side, dipped or full (or all!)

So, rear brake lights are out
Rear tail lights
Rear fogs are ok.
Number plate lights?
Reversing lights?
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 10:54:40
Rear side lights - Dead
Rear brake lights - Dead

Rear Fogs - Working
High level brake - Working
Reversing lights - Working
Front side lights - Working
Full beam - Working
Front fogs - Working
Front head lights - Dead
Number plate light - Dead



Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Jimbob on 03 September 2008, 11:01:32
Indicators...

Working
Not Working
Working
Not Working
Working
Not Working
Working
Not Working
Working
Not Working


 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 September 2008, 12:16:04
Rear side lights - Dead - via check control
Rear brake lights - Dead - via check control
Rear Fogs - Working - not via check control
High level brake - Working - not via check control
Reversing lights - Working - not via chek control
Front side lights - Working - not via check control
Full beam - Working - not via check control
Front fogs - Working - not via check control
Front head lights - Dead - via check control
Number plate light - Dead - not via check control


SO looks like it could be the check control moduel  (i suspect the number plate bulb has failed and not been noticed!)
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 12:43:12
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Rear side lights - Dead - via check control
Rear brake lights - Dead - via check control
Rear Fogs - Working - not via check control
High level brake - Working - not via check control
Reversing lights - Working - not via chek control
Front side lights - Working - not via check control
Full beam - Working - not via check control
Front fogs - Working - not via check control
Front head lights - Dead - via check control
Number plate light - Dead - not via check control


SO looks like it could be the check control moduel  (i suspect the number plate bulb has failed and not been noticed!)


Where does it live ?

it's getting bypassed so I can come to Newent !


(already by fixed the brake lights by wiring into the high level lamp, needed to go and get food!)
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 September 2008, 13:17:37
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Rear side lights - Dead - via check control
Rear brake lights - Dead - via check control
Rear Fogs - Working - not via check control
High level brake - Working - not via check control
Reversing lights - Working - not via chek control
Front side lights - Working - not via check control
Full beam - Working - not via check control
Front fogs - Working - not via check control
Front head lights - Dead - via check control
Number plate light - Dead - not via check control


SO looks like it could be the check control moduel  (i suspect the number plate bulb has failed and not been noticed!)


Where does it live ?

it's getting bypassed so I can come to Newent !


(already by fixed the brake lights by wiring into the high level lamp, needed to go and get food!)


Its behind the glove box....and this is the first one I have ever heard of causing trouble!

You could ask JueV6 to bring you the one fromthe MV6 he is breaking!
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 13:19:51
ahhh

when my heater matrix blew - it gushed water up the back of the glove box... but this was about 3 months ago.

Right - how do I get the glove box out - taken 2 screaws out from the front outer edge but its still solid
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Jimbob on 03 September 2008, 13:29:25
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ahhh

when my heater matrix blew - it gushed water up the back of the glove box... but this was about 3 months ago.

Right - how do I get the glove box out - taken 2 screaws out from the front outer edge but its still solid

I've written a guide in the how tos, how to replace glovebox handle, that will explain it  :y
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 13:37:22
Nice one - BRB !
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 14:03:52
DONT BELEAVE IT!

one of the 3 torx bolts has been rounded off, cant get the air bag out to shift the glove box...

Really peeved off now
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Jimbob on 03 September 2008, 14:24:26
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DONT BELEAVE IT!

one of the 3 torx bolts has been rounded off, cant get the air bag out to shift the glove box...

Really peeved off now

can you get a chisel on?  or vice grips?
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 14:44:51
Aye its out - Cant find any thing amiss though - so by passing it so I can use the car...
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 15:01:10

FIXED !!!


The RAC had tie wrapped the tracker to the loom running to the check box - it had pulled a pin from the multi plug - all working fine now :)

Time for another call to the RAC :(
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Jimbob on 03 September 2008, 15:06:53
Gotta say I've been waiting to the RAC's efforts to destroy your car to get involved!

Least youve fixed it.  :y
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 15:38:06
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Gotta say I've been waiting to the RAC's efforts to destroy your car to get involved!

Least youve fixed it.  :y


I just can not beleave how bad a bodge the tracker fitting was - on a closer look I think he tried tapping in to the loom for a power supply there, after checking it over some more I've found I can't fit the carin sat nav now as easy as though as he's used that loom for the tracker...

really temped to rip it all out....
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 September 2008, 15:54:40
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FIXED !!!


The RAC had tie wrapped the tracker to the loom running to the check box - it had pulled a pin from the multi plug - all working fine now :)

Time for another call to the RAC :(

Restores the 100% fault free record of the bulb check control module !
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 15:55:25
Must say a big thanks to you guys -

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Lost rear side lights and brake lights
Post by: JonArgraig on 03 September 2008, 16:00:13
Guess I'll fit my new head unit and sub now,

Thats what I started to do 2 days ago till my dad said as I pulled into his drive - "You know you have no break lights..."