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Title: Dab antenna
Post by: doog on 22 September 2008, 13:35:11
Hi has any one on here fitted a DAB aerial to their omega?
I have a dab tuner on my current car stereo and need a aeriel to make it work.
 also where is the best place to mount a DAB aeriel on the omega?

hope someone can point me in the right direction
cheers
Doog
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: gazsomega on 23 September 2008, 14:10:41
didnt no that you could get a dab radio for cars
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Dave DND on 23 September 2008, 14:30:59
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didnt no that you could get a dab radio for cars

Been around for a long time now, so long in fact that they are now undergoing tests on DAB+ or DAB2  (whatever they are going to end up calling it !!)
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: zirk on 23 September 2008, 14:34:23
Vauxhall's do one one for the factory fit DAB, not sure about the Amplifier bit through, would have thought that would be more important as DAB works around 230 Mhz ish against the center freq of 98 Mhz for normal.
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 September 2008, 14:48:32
I would remove the "bee sting" phone antenna, assuming you don't use it, and fit one there. Saves drilling any more holes.

Kevin
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Dave DND on 23 September 2008, 16:17:16
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I would remove the "bee sting" phone antenna, assuming you don't use it, and fit one there. Saves drilling any more holes.

Kevin

Excellent location  :y

Has anybody ever come across a multiband DAB aerial that allows for Phone / FM or GPS to be connected simultaneuosly?  I must confess to only ever having encountered single use DAB aerials?

 :-/
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: iainb on 23 September 2008, 19:54:58
In the USA they have SDARS which is subscripsion service
http://www.tvtower.com/xm-radio.html
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: doog on 26 September 2008, 14:33:08
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I would remove the "bee sting" phone antenna, assuming you don't use it, and fit one there. Saves drilling any more holes.

Kevin

I dont have a bee sting antenna  infact i must have an internaly mounted aerial as there is nothing on show at all
the radio i have has inputs for DAB and am/fm (am/fm works fine)

 anyone know if there is a decent glass mount aerial for dab use as i have no plans to drill a hole in my omega

cheers
Doug
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Dave DND on 26 September 2008, 15:08:34
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anyone know if there is a decent glass mount aerial for dab use as i have no plans to drill a hole in my omega

Simple answer - NO !!

If you are spending out all that money on DAB, then spend  out on a decent external aerial and fit it correctly to the bodywork. Internal aerials are no better than a damp piece of string, and if you really don`t want to drill any holes, then stick to FM.

 :(
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: doog on 26 September 2008, 15:53:01
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anyone know if there is a decent glass mount aerial for dab use as i have no plans to drill a hole in my omega

 Internal aerials are no better than a damp piece of string, and if you really don`t want to drill any holes, then stick to FM.

 :(
I would stick to Fm as its better quality than dab however the stations i listen to most frequently (planet rock) do not broadcast on Fm

I was infact refering to the glass mounted aerials  that are stuck to the outside of the window much the same idea as some external phone aerials  are fitted.

that being a no go idea where is the best place to fit one on the body (not that i am keen on the idea)
I dont have any external areals atm so a hole would have to be drilled

Doug
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Dave DND on 26 September 2008, 16:03:09
This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 16:52:50
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This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Oi! Loft aerials work fine  >:(....

...as long as they are about 5 times bigger ;D :y


Not sure the analagy is that good tbh, as loft aerials have advantage of static and unaffected by weathering and pigeons.  But your point is valid :)
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 September 2008, 16:59:10
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This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Oi! Loft aerials work fine  >:(....

...as long as they are about 5 times bigger ;D :y


Not sure the analagy is that good tbh, as loft aerials have advantage of static and unaffected by weathering and pigeons.  But your point is valid :)

I have a loft mounted TV antenna. Thought "that'll have to go" when we moved in, but it's actually superb. Then again, we're 600 feet above sea level and in line of sight of Rowridge transmitter. ;D

In a car, you're always going to find challenging reception somewhere so, if radio is important, and if you're going to the trouble of installing DAB it presumably is, get the best you can.

Kevin
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Dave DND on 26 September 2008, 17:27:24
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This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Oi! Loft aerials work fine  >:(....

...as long as they are about 5 times bigger ;D :y


Not sure the analagy is that good tbh, as loft aerials have advantage of static and unaffected by weathering and pigeons.  But your point is valid :)

I have a loft mounted TV antenna. Thought "that'll have to go" when we moved in, but it's actually superb. Then again, we're 600 feet above sea level and in line of sight of Rowridge transmitter. ;D

In a car, you're always going to find challenging reception somewhere so, if radio is important, and if you're going to the trouble of installing DAB it presumably is, get the best you can.

Kevin

Groan . . .   :P

There`s always one (or two !!)  ::)  :P  :-*

 ;D
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 18:30:32
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This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Oi! Loft aerials work fine  >:(....

...as long as they are about 5 times bigger ;D :y


Not sure the analagy is that good tbh, as loft aerials have advantage of static and unaffected by weathering and pigeons.  But your point is valid :)

I have a loft mounted TV antenna. Thought "that'll have to go" when we moved in, but it's actually superb. Then again, we're 600 feet above sea level and in line of sight of Rowridge transmitter. ;D

In a car, you're always going to find challenging reception somewhere so, if radio is important, and if you're going to the trouble of installing DAB it presumably is, get the best you can.

Kevin

Groan . . .   :P

There`s always one (or two !!)  ::)  :P  :-*

 ;D
Joking aside, I'm in what used to be called a fringe area in the analogue days.  I have a largish (about 1.5m, with the X type beams on it) aerial in loft and get good analogue and digital signal with it.

As per most modern estates, TV aerials (and satelite dishes) are prohibited, not that anyone takes any notice of that for satelites.  Can't see a single tv aerial round here though...
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Dave DND on 26 September 2008, 18:43:27
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This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Oi! Loft aerials work fine  >:(....

...as long as they are about 5 times bigger ;D :y


Not sure the analagy is that good tbh, as loft aerials have advantage of static and unaffected by weathering and pigeons.  But your point is valid :)

I have a loft mounted TV antenna. Thought "that'll have to go" when we moved in, but it's actually superb. Then again, we're 600 feet above sea level and in line of sight of Rowridge transmitter. ;D

In a car, you're always going to find challenging reception somewhere so, if radio is important, and if you're going to the trouble of installing DAB it presumably is, get the best you can.

Kevin

Groan . . .   :P

There`s always one (or two !!)  ::)  :P  :-*

 ;D
Joking aside, I'm in what used to be called a fringe area in the analogue days.  I have a largish (about 1.5m, with the X type beams on it) aerial in loft and get good analogue and digital signal with it.

As per most modern estates, TV aerials (and satelite dishes) are prohibited, not that anyone takes any notice of that for satelites.  Can't see a single tv aerial round here though...

Joking aside also, I wish that I could have put an aerial in my loft - we had a similar X pattern 1.9m Ultra High gain aerial bolted to the side of the house, as we are near the sea and the wrong side of the cliffs to be able to see any transmiters at all - problem was that every time the seagulls reach breeding time (I think its fortnightly - or at least appears that way) they would roger each other senseless whilst perched on my aerial and bend the bracket - we ended up going over to cable in the end as I was fed up going up the ladder each time to fix it  ;D
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 18:50:33
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This will apply to all vehicles, not just Omegas

Easiest place to drill holes is on the roof above either the front or rear courtesy lights, making sure that the bolts and cables from the aerial do not protrude too far into the cabin to affect putting the light back afterwards - this will prevent from having to remove the roof lining.

Wing mounted aerials are generally avoided if at all possible, as can be a little directional in their performance, but OK as a last resort and certainly better than any form of glass mounted or internal aerial.

General rule of thumb, keep the aerial, upright and towards the centre of any large metal panels, and before somebody says that internal ones are ok remember that a TV aerial inside the loft will seldom work, yet put outside of the same house in the same location will give a much stronger reception - same is true in cars.

 :y
Oi! Loft aerials work fine  >:(....

...as long as they are about 5 times bigger ;D :y


Not sure the analagy is that good tbh, as loft aerials have advantage of static and unaffected by weathering and pigeons.  But your point is valid :)

I have a loft mounted TV antenna. Thought "that'll have to go" when we moved in, but it's actually superb. Then again, we're 600 feet above sea level and in line of sight of Rowridge transmitter. ;D

In a car, you're always going to find challenging reception somewhere so, if radio is important, and if you're going to the trouble of installing DAB it presumably is, get the best you can.

Kevin

Groan . . .   :P

There`s always one (or two !!)  ::)  :P  :-*

 ;D
Joking aside, I'm in what used to be called a fringe area in the analogue days.  I have a largish (about 1.5m, with the X type beams on it) aerial in loft and get good analogue and digital signal with it.

As per most modern estates, TV aerials (and satelite dishes) are prohibited, not that anyone takes any notice of that for satelites.  Can't see a single tv aerial round here though...

Joking aside also, I wish that I could have put an aerial in my loft - we had a similar X pattern 1.9m Ultra High gain aerial bolted to the side of the house, as we are near the sea and the wrong side of the cliffs to be able to see any transmiters at all - problem was that every time the seagulls reach breeding time (I think its fortnightly - or at least appears that way) they would roger each other senseless whilst perched on my aerial and bend the bracket - we ended up going over to cable in the end as I was fed up going up the ladder each time to fix it  ;D
PMSL.


Mrs TheBoy's dad lives about 3 miles from main Oxford transmitter - big powerful bugger that one is...  ...can't get a signal due to living halfway up the wrong side of Shotover - I bloody great hill just South of Oxford, and has to point towards Newbury, some 25 miles away.
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 September 2008, 13:13:23
A mate of mine lived about a mile away from the Hannington transmitter. Moved into the house, installed TV and it worked OK but his Mrs. was complaining that the video didn't work. Eventually he looked into this, and found that the antenna connector of the TV hadn't been connected to anything, video included, yet his TV signal was fine.  ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Dab antenna
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 September 2008, 14:23:10
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A mate of mine lived about a mile away from the Hannington transmitter. Moved into the house, installed TV and it worked OK but his Mrs. was complaining that the video didn't work. Eventually he looked into this, and found that the antenna connector of the TV hadn't been connected to anything, video included, yet his TV signal was fine.  ;D

Kevin
 

Unusual that as TV transmitters often have a shadow of upto a mile around the base where reception relies on reflected signals....