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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Omega_2.2 on 24 September 2008, 10:01:17

Title: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Omega_2.2 on 24 September 2008, 10:01:17
change from 2,2 (y22xe)---->to y32se what is different in electrical ?
simtec to Bosch motronic..help  :-?
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: iainb on 24 September 2008, 22:32:54
You asked !
Engine management ECU
Transmision             ECU
ABS/TC                   ECU
Possible ABS modulator as I dont think that 2.2 has TC
Gearbox and Dif
Maybe suspension will need upgradeing as well & front disc's and calipers aswell
 :-/
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Omega_2.2 on 24 September 2008, 22:48:50
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You asked !
Engine management ECU
Transmision             ECU
ABS/TC                   ECU
Possible ABS modulator as I dont think that 2.2 has TC
Gearbox and Dif
Maybe suspension will need upgradeing as well & front disc's and calipers aswell
 :-/

Yes i now but the problem is the wiring from ecu and to the car--different wiring on 4 syl--->6 syl. :(
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 September 2008, 10:03:01
In theory its dead easy as the engine loom to body loom connector by the battery is a standard item/pin out and engine independent.

There will however be the need to sort out immobiliser coding and re-programming of some ecu's within th body/chassis to support teh replacement lump.....and then there is the issue of the 2.2 using a different ABS lump.
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Omega_2.2 on 25 September 2008, 10:46:58
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In theory its dead easy as the engine loom to body loom connector by the battery is a standard item/pin out and engine independent.

There will however be the need to sort out immobiliser coding and re-programming of some ecu's within th body/chassis to support teh replacement lump.....and then there is the issue of the 2.2 using a different ABS lump.

I now but i have everything--codes,abs lump+++ :)
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: markey mark on 25 September 2008, 10:48:20
engine loom just plugs in so shouldnt be too bad matey !!  :y
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2008, 18:56:53
I would say changing over engine loom and ecu should solve most issues.

After that, may need a decent diags scanner to work out whats not working right, and tackle those individually
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Omega_2.2 on 25 September 2008, 23:31:42
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I would say changing over engine loom and ecu should solve most issues.

After that, may need a decent diags scanner to work out whats not working right, and tackle those individually

I now  :) but i also now that the engine ecu is not wired like the 2,2.Some of them have to  change place  :-[
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 08:50:57
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I would say changing over engine loom and ecu should solve most issues.

After that, may need a decent diags scanner to work out whats not working right, and tackle those individually

I now  :) but i also now that the engine ecu is not wired like the 2,2.Some of them have to  change place  :-[
Correct, ECU completely different, hence why you need to change entire engine loom (which includes cabling to ECU)
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Omega_2.2 on 26 September 2008, 08:57:27
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I would say changing over engine loom and ecu should solve most issues.

After that, may need a decent diags scanner to work out whats not working right, and tackle those individually

I now  :) but i also now that the engine ecu is not wired like the 2,2.Some of them have to  change place  :-[
Correct, ECU completely different, hence why you need to change entire engine loom (which includes cabling to ECU)
Ok so that engine loom from ecu and into the car must be changed ?
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 09:31:58
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I would say changing over engine loom and ecu should solve most issues.

After that, may need a decent diags scanner to work out whats not working right, and tackle those individually

I now  :) but i also now that the engine ecu is not wired like the 2,2.Some of them have to  change place  :-[
Correct, ECU completely different, hence why you need to change entire engine loom (which includes cabling to ECU)
Ok so that engine loom from ecu and into the car must be changed ?
Car loom should be the same I would have thought, so just engine loom under bonnet.
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 September 2008, 09:24:38
The engine has a stand alone loom that inlcudes all the sensors and wiring to the ECU etc.

This can be removed with the engine and you have a large multiplug on it that connects to the body loom plus a live feed and only one or two other bits.....
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Omega_2.2 on 27 September 2008, 17:00:42
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The engine has a stand alone loom that inlcudes all the sensors and wiring to the ECU etc.

This can be removed with the engine and you have a large multiplug on it that connects to the body loom plus a live feed and only one or two other bits.....
ok large multiplug on it that connects to the body loom is this inside car-left side ? :)
Håvard.
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 September 2008, 10:54:56
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The engine has a stand alone loom that inlcudes all the sensors and wiring to the ECU etc.

This can be removed with the engine and you have a large multiplug on it that connects to the body loom plus a live feed and only one or two other bits.....
ok large multiplug on it that connects to the body loom is this inside car-left side ? :)
Håvard.

Nope, just behind the battery
Title: Re: Engine change omega b2 facelift.
Post by: ngrainqey on 10 October 2008, 16:11:47
theres three big plugs behind the battery if this helps