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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: feeutfo on 13 February 2009, 07:51:13
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
Nothing to do with Nav Disc, all down to outside temp (sensor in bumper)
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Cant you put the old disk in to rule that out?
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Nought to do with the satnav disk, thats a function of check control. I'm guessing the temp was hovering around the 3C mark?
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thanks for replys guys, dont have my disc at the mo, so cant rule it out. And the temp is diff now anyway.
Yes the temp was bang on 3c when i got in the car and dropped to 2.5 then 2.0 by the time i got to maidenhead jcn 8/9 10 mins later and stayed at
2.0 until i arrived. The ice warning was flashing up every 30 seconds throughout the journey. Never seen this before, it usually flashes up once and thats it iirc.
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Mine flashes as soon as temp hit 3c and stayed on until I press the cancel/display button. Comes back if temp drops further.
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Mine flashes as soon as temp hit 3c and stayed on until I press the cancel/display button. Comes back if temp drops further.
Yeah thats what i would expect, every half a degree at the most. But this was laterally every 30 seconds, and the temp only dropped 1degree over a 20min journey.
Twice a minute over a 20 min journey, thats 40 warnings! By that rule it should have been minus 27degrees in Slough. Bloody Gremlins...
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If the temperature is hovering on the 3 degree mark then the warning comes on at 3, off at 3.5. On at 3, off at 3.5 ad infinitum, until the temperature changes another degree or so out the sensor range.
It will have nothing to do with the satnav CD as already said....
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If the temperature is hovering on the 3 degree mark then the warning comes on at 3, off at 3.5. On at 3, off at 3.5 ad infinitum, until the temperature changes another degree or so out the sensor range.
It will have nothing to do with the satnav CD as already said....
temp showed no change at 2c for the last 10 mins of the journey but still the warning "every" 30 seconds.i cant think of any weather condition that would fluctuate plus or minus half a degree precisely every 30 seconds for 10 to 20 mins. ::)
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If the temperature is hovering on the 3 degree mark then the warning comes on at 3, off at 3.5. On at 3, off at 3.5 ad infinitum, until the temperature changes another degree or so out the sensor range.
It will have nothing to do with the satnav CD as already said....
temp showed no change at 2c for the last 10 mins of the journey but still the warning "every" 30 seconds.i cant think of any weather condition that would fluctuate plus or minus half a degree precisely every 30 seconds for 10 to 20 mins. ::)
Could always swap the temp sensor? Nice easy thing to try.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
It's a worthwhile improvement for around £40, it's amazing how many junctions have changed from a 2003 disk to a 2008 one.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
I have been told, but have no proof, that part of a (genuine) upgrade disk may contain firmware upgrades as well as map changes. On first insertion of the disc the system will complete the firmware upgrade then continue as normal, and never needs to redo the upgrade......
As I say .. no proof of this at all .... just how I believe the system works.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
I have been told, but have no proof, that part of a (genuine) upgrade disk may contain firmware upgrades as well as map changes. On first insertion of the disc the system will complete the firmware upgrade then continue as normal, and never needs to redo the upgrade......
As I say .. no proof of this at all .... just how I believe the system works.
It does indeed, hence the interest i take it? but the extra options do not work!
It is in effect...gay!
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
I have been told, but have no proof, that part of a (genuine) upgrade disk may contain firmware upgrades as well as map changes. On first insertion of the disc the system will complete the firmware upgrade then continue as normal, and never needs to redo the upgrade......
As I say .. no proof of this at all .... just how I believe the system works.
correct, but no feature enhancements generally.
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
I have been told, but have no proof, that part of a (genuine) upgrade disk may contain firmware upgrades as well as map changes. On first insertion of the disc the system will complete the firmware upgrade then continue as normal, and never needs to redo the upgrade......
As I say .. no proof of this at all .... just how I believe the system works.
It does indeed, hence the interest i take it? but the extra options do not work!
It is in effect...gay!
what extra options have they added - apart from a tmc update around 2004 (which isn't applicable to uk anyway), no new options...
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loaded a new "aquired" :o :-X version of Navteq yesterday, on the way to work this morning the ice warning came up every 30 seconds on my 20 minute journey to work. Bloody annoying! Is this due to the new disc or a coincidence with another fault? It seemed to be timed too accurately to be a random problem tbh. Anyone else had this? Ta.
any tip on "aquireing" :D
No discussion on distributing copyrighted material on this site I'm afraid, so all I can do is point you to the Navteq website.
Or German fleagay. Writeable media really is not the way to go with these head units. Some members have picked up genuine 08 european discs for £40! But for the impovement it gives you i would save your money and stick with your current version.
Other than map updates, what improvement can a map update provide :-/
I have been told, but have no proof, that part of a (genuine) upgrade disk may contain firmware upgrades as well as map changes. On first insertion of the disc the system will complete the firmware upgrade then continue as normal, and never needs to redo the upgrade......
As I say .. no proof of this at all .... just how I believe the system works.
It does indeed, hence the interest i take it? but the extra options do not work!
It is in effect...gay!
what extra options have they added - apart from a tmc update around 2004 (which isn't applicable to uk anyway), no new options...
We are talking about the same thing J. Why have an update to update "options" that are grayed out and are then activated with the update that reminds you to change channel to then tell you the data base is not available and then remind you again which is annoying so you turn the updated option off! Why? Because we are not in europe even though we are in europe except we cant be in europe or tmc would not be encripted like it is'nt in europe. Its gay i tell you... And yes my pants are too tight today.
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We are talking about the same thing J. Why have an update to update "options" that are grayed out and are then activated with the update that reminds you to change channel to then tell you the data base is not available and then remind you again which is annoying so you turn the updated option off! Why? Because we are not in europe even though we are in europe except we cant be in europe or tmc would not be encripted like it is'nt in europe. Its gay i tell you... And yes my pants are too tight today.
sadly, this being the uk, we have to be different, and have an encrypted version. remember, the firmware is global, not uk specific.
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We are talking about the same thing J. Why have an update to update "options" that are grayed out and are then activated with the update that reminds you to change channel to then tell you the data base is not available and then remind you again which is annoying so you turn the updated option off! Why? Because we are not in europe even though we are in europe except we cant be in europe or tmc would not be encripted like it is'nt in europe. Its gay i tell you... And yes my pants are too tight today.
sadly, this being the uk, we have to be different, and have an encrypted version. remember, the firmware is global, not uk specific.
I thought one of the updates was 'intersection zoom'?
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We are talking about the same thing J. Why have an update to update "options" that are grayed out and are then activated with the update that reminds you to change channel to then tell you the data base is not available and then remind you again which is annoying so you turn the updated option off! Why? Because we are not in europe even though we are in europe except we cant be in europe or tmc would not be encripted like it is'nt in europe. Its gay i tell you... And yes my pants are too tight today.
sadly, this being the uk, we have to be different, and have an encrypted version. remember, the firmware is global, not uk specific.
I thought one of the updates was 'intersection zoom'?
sure that was there from 2001?
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We are talking about the same thing J. Why have an update to update "options" that are grayed out and are then activated with the update that reminds you to change channel to then tell you the data base is not available and then remind you again which is annoying so you turn the updated option off! Why? Because we are not in europe even though we are in europe except we cant be in europe or tmc would not be encripted like it is'nt in europe. Its gay i tell you... And yes my pants are too tight today.
sadly, this being the uk, we have to be different, and have an encrypted version. remember, the firmware is global, not uk specific.
I thought one of the updates was 'intersection zoom'?
My 03 disc has it Andy. All the same bar tmc as far as i can tell.
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sure that was there from 2001?
My 2001 CD has intersection zoom - not that anyone is likely interested ::)
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Perhaps not intersection zoom then! ::) ;D
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Actually the obvious thing thing that gets updated (not as part of the firmware update on the NCDC/R but on the disk) is the POI data.
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Actually the obvious thing thing that gets updated (not as part of the firmware update on the NCDC/R but on the disk) is the POI data.
The most obvious is the map ;), but the POI database is obviously updated as well :)