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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: miniator on 24 April 2009, 11:57:37
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Bearing in mind that the NCDC2013 MUST stay, there is no option for replacing it.....am i better to install BOSE in my facelift (BOSE is coming from a facelift) or upgrade all door speakers, pair of boot subs and all amplified (of course)???
i know the aftermarket will be more expensive, but is it worth the extra?!
how does the BOSE compare!? ive never heard it but i know that BOSE make some top quality sounds!
I do love my trance music...
im in a real pickle here :(
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IMHO you should stick with BOSE, because it's the original option and it will sound good enough.
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Your NCDC Head unit and its MID (assume thats what you have) can be programmed to Bose Mode via a Tech 2. So your just left with changing the speakers, loom and adding a Amp. Job done.
I would go down the Bose route first and see what you think. :y
Update: Just noticed you have a FL Elite, do you not already have a Bose Set Up?
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Your NCDC Head unit and its MID (assume thats what you have) can be programmed to Bose Mode via a Tech 2. So your just left with changing the speakers, loom and adding a Amp. Job done.
I would go down the Bose route first and see what you think. :y
Update: Just noticed you have a FL Elite, do you not already have a Bose Set Up?
in his case, no. No idea why not...
He will have a GID or a CID with NCDC stereo. Said stereo has not line out, which will limit choice of amps. Bose setting provides unusual levels only compatible with bose amps.
Bose isn't that loud, if your other car is a corsa, you wear baseball caps, and you think cruising for honeys up and down the high street with your bongo bongo music at full pelt is cool, Bose most definately isn't for you. Try to see if a member locally has a bose setup and listen to it before committing.
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lol i dont fall into your bongo bongo music category but i do like my trance beats :P
i dont have a local member, i would see many 1 omega a week on the roads here!
I was for buying that BOSE set up but then i remember Dave at DND posted that there are splitters that allow amplifiers to be wired up which would allow the low end sounds to be passed to the bass subs....if that makes sense!?
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this is the do-da im talking about...search function is amazing lol
http://cpc.farnell.com/_/b070a/car-amplifier-impedance-matching/dp/CP03284?_requestid=535937
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Your NCDC Head unit and its MID (assume thats what you have) can be programmed to Bose Mode via a Tech 2. So your just left with changing the speakers, loom and adding a Amp. Job done.
I would go down the Bose route first and see what you think. :y
Update: Just noticed you have a FL Elite, do you not already have a Bose Set Up?
in his case, no. No idea why not...
He will have a GID or a CID with NCDC stereo. Said stereo has not line out, which will limit choice of amps. Bose setting provides unusual levels only compatible with bose amps.
Bose isn't that loud, if your other car is a corsa, you wear baseball caps, and you think cruising for honeys up and down the high street with your bongo bongo music at full pelt is cool, Bose most definately isn't for you. Try to see if a member locally has a bose setup and listen to it before committing.
Of course, 2013 has Sat Nav, forgot about that, well spotted. The adding the speakers, loom and Amp bit, I did mean all Bose stuff, sorry didn't make that bit clear.
Wonder why you dont already have Bose?, Northern Ireland, is it an Opel?
Hear what your saying about the lack of Bose Migs over there, what about listening to Bose on early Audi, Mazdas, Mercs etc. Would that not give you some idea about going down the Bose route?
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we drive vauxhalls over here seeing as were part of the UK :P :P
and anyways, my car was an english W reg before being brought in! no reason why it wasnt fitted as standard, only think i can think of was that it was spec'd without it...which is odd!!
Ive heard modern BOSE stuff in cars before and in the house but nothing earlish...its hard to find!
I think im swaying towards an aftermarket system, amplified Alpine Type R's front and rear in the doors perhaps..... and a couple of 10" subs in the boot. Quite fancy a wee project such as that anyways!
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this is the do-da im talking about...search function is amazing lol
http://cpc.farnell.com/_/b070a/car-amplifier-impedance-matching/dp/CP03284?_requestid=535937
Something like that, if were talking the Non Bose route. But whether that particular item is any good or not, I don’t know.
I’m sure Dave DND would have something up his sleeve if you’re talking about adding aftermarket bits and keeping your existing Head unit.
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how does one summon him....bat sign in the sky perhaps ;) lol
it came from his recommendation in this thread but id be unsure on how to wire it up
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1237755786
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how does one summon him....bat sign in the sky perhaps ;) lol
it came from his recommendation in this thread but id be unsure on how to wire it up
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1237755786
Saw the BAT sign ;D
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Bleedin Orrible Sound Evermore
What are you trying to connect?
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how does one summon him....bat sign in the sky perhaps ;) lol
it came from his recommendation in this thread but id be unsure on how to wire it up
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1237755786
Oh, and for the record, Email is always fastest
dave@dndservices.co.uk ;)
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Bleedin Orrible Sound Evermore
What are you trying to connect?
I was going to mention that fact that your a bit Anti Bose, but then I thought, Nah, Im sure it will pop up some where a long the line.
But that was quick! ;D
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LOL!! it appears the bat sign works as well as email!!
The OEM NCDC2013 must stay Dave so i was thinkin components in the front doors, co-ax's in the rear doors and a pair of 10" subs in a sealed or ported box in the boot. 4ch amp for the door speakers and a 2ch for the subs!?
How would one make this happen!? Would a couple of these line converters be suitable!? http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/accessories-line-output-converters-c-73_2139.html
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Yes, they would work -
However - (and I need some confirmation from some fellow Oofers on this one as NDCXX not my strongest point)
If your NCDXXX is not configured for BOSE then do you still have front and rear outputs configured on the top block of the Mini Iso connector? If so, then these should be at around 0.3V which is roughly the standard RCA level already?
If not, then I may have an easier solution than trying to faff around wiring up those convertors
Will post something shortly
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lol less faffing around with wires the better for me Dave....eagerly awaiting your solution! :D
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i had bose and shortly went aftermarket
i think the bose system is ok but i want clean loud bass not distorted quiet bass!
and for the record i dont go cruising for honney's nor do i wear a baseball cap i used to have a Corsa though...
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4ch OEM to RCA convertor on ISO plugs
http://www.dndservices.co.uk/product.php?productid=3716&cat=0&page=1
If your original ISO block is one single one, you may need to seperate it into the three sections (easy to do) and simply replace the middle one with the speaker part of this - that way all the telematics etc will remain untouched.
Sorry it took so long !!
:y
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if iwould of known these existed when i was setting my system up last year they would of been a god send nevermind!
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thats pretty trick and very simple dave!
i fonud this pinout image of the NCDC....
(http://teletehnika.km.ru/pins/files/siemens-pinout.jpg)
so all i have to do is replace the centre rectangle with the equivlant rectangle that has the RCA outs....then just connect up the 2 amplifiers to each pair!?
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yes miniator thats correct
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yes miniator thats correct
that might have seemed like a pretty stupid question, but electrics are not my strong point lol!
This is great, shall purchase one when i get home...left the debit card there! It also means i can install the system bit by bit and still have music too!Cheers Dave
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Yep - Middle block, plug and play !!
And that picture of the rear block rules out my thoughts of the unit having RCA level outputs on the top block - not where I thought they were on that model.
:y
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sounds good! a summer project awaits :D
went to buy it in the shop dave....but couldnt as theres no shipping methods to my NI address!?
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sounds good! a summer project awaits :D
went to buy it in the shop dave....but couldnt as theres no shipping methods to my NI address!?
Bugger. A glitch on our new website.
Think of me whilst you are all down the pub tonight
:'(
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go on, hit the pub....itll wait!
Dont be chargin me the earth for postage.....i work on ebay so i know my postage prices lol ;D
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Sorted :y
I had forgotten to activate your Country in the shipping tables !!
(new website launched a few days ago - still getting to grips with it)
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Please try again if you would.
:-[
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worked a treat!!
and i paid through paypal as well!!! :D