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Title: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 15:39:56
Hi Folks,

I'm going to be wiring in one of those Blaupunkt windscreen mounted aerials, which double-up as an aerial.  My Omega is ex-plod and doesn't have an aerial fitted.

I've got an aftermarket CD Player, with one of the ISO wiring harnesses plugged into my Miggy's loom.

Anyway, the aerial I've got needs a 12v +ve feed which only works when the CD Player is switched on.  It also needs a -ve feed too.

I don't want to cut into my Miggy's loom, so what I was planning on doing was splicing into the blue wire (electric aerial) on the ISO harness as the +ve feed, and into the black wire for the -ve feed.

Would this work?  Would the blue wire carry a current, as my Miggy obviously doesn't have an electric aerial?  :-/

Cheers  :y

Would this work?  As
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: Andy B on 07 May 2009, 15:47:57
Is your car a saloon? I'd have thought the loom for the rear screen aerial would still be there even if it doesn't actually have the aerial amp fitted. :-/
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: Dave DND on 07 May 2009, 15:54:08
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Hi Folks,

I'm going to be wiring in one of those Blaupunkt windscreen mounted aerials, which double-up as an aerial.  My Omega is ex-plod and doesn't have an aerial fitted.

I've got an aftermarket CD Player, with one of the ISO wiring harnesses plugged into my Miggy's loom.

Anyway, the aerial I've got needs a 12v +ve feed which only works when the CD Player is switched on.  It also needs a -ve feed too.

I don't want to cut into my Miggy's loom, so what I was planning on doing was splicing into the blue wire (electric aerial) on the ISO harness as the +ve feed, and into the black wire for the -ve feed.

Would this work?  Would the blue wire carry a current, as my Miggy obviously doesn't have an electric aerial?  :-/

Cheers  :y

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Yes, that would work.

 ;)
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 15:56:33
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Is your car a saloon? I'd have thought the loom for the rear screen aerial would still be there even if it doesn't actually have the aerial amp fitted. :-/

Yep Andy, it's the saloon, but there's no wiring there at all - but it does have the 2 vertical elements coming down the rear window...
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 15:58:16
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Hi Folks,

I'm going to be wiring in one of those Blaupunkt windscreen mounted aerials, which double-up as an aerial.  My Omega is ex-plod and doesn't have an aerial fitted.

I've got an aftermarket CD Player, with one of the ISO wiring harnesses plugged into my Miggy's loom.

Anyway, the aerial I've got needs a 12v +ve feed which only works when the CD Player is switched on.  It also needs a -ve feed too.

I don't want to cut into my Miggy's loom, so what I was planning on doing was splicing into the blue wire (electric aerial) on the ISO harness as the +ve feed, and into the black wire for the -ve feed.

Would this work?  Would the blue wire carry a current, as my Miggy obviously doesn't have an electric aerial?  :-/

Cheers  :y

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Yes, that would work.

 ;)

Cheers Dave - that's what I'll do!  :y

As for splicing in the connections - would scotchlocks do the job?  (Don't really have any room to get a soldering iron in there!)
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: Andy B on 07 May 2009, 16:02:59
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....., it's the saloon, but there's no wiring there at all - but it does have the 2 vertical elements coming down the rear window...

I'd be surprised if Vx made a loom without aerial amp wiring just for Plod.   :: :: ::)
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 16:12:07
Me too - seems more like plod just got a bit giddy with stripping out all the stuff that they didn't need!!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: tmx on 07 May 2009, 16:18:49
if theres a double line in the back window then theres an aerial there somewhere


have a look in the passengers kickpannel as the Aerial lead maywell be in there
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: Dave DND on 07 May 2009, 16:25:43
NO !  DO NOT USE SCOTCHLOCKS   >:(

they often give a very poor connection and the last thing you want is a live wire coming loose or heating up from being intermittant.

Solder is best, a crimp connector is just as good, and the old fashioned chocolate block screw terminals are adequate if you have enough space behind there.

But again - NO Scotchlocks, and no twisted wires either   ;)
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: tmx on 07 May 2009, 16:57:08
yes No Scotchlocks Twisted wires are stupid!

i spent the best part of my entire saturday unbodging what some idiot had done to swmbos new car some bodgeit had cut the iso leads off and destroyed it all

theyd even bare twisted the negative and shoved it in the radio hole :@!!! no wonder the radio power supply had fused!

bodgeit also bodged an electric aerial onto this seat that i still cant get working so ill be replacing it with a non electric replacement :y
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 17:12:06
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if theres a double line in the back window then theres an aerial there somewhere


have a look in the passengers kickpannel as the Aerial lead maywell be in there

Hunted high and low - no trace of it anywhere  :(
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 17:13:38
I get the impression that I shouldn't use scotchlocks then??  ;D  ;D

By the crimping connectors - do you mean like bullet or spade connectors that you crimp onto the wires?
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: Dave DND on 07 May 2009, 17:35:47
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I get the impression that I shouldn't use scotchlocks then??  ;D  ;D

By the crimping connectors - do you mean like bullet or spade connectors that you crimp onto the wires?

 :y
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: tmx on 07 May 2009, 18:44:02
there is usually a cable in a foam sort of packaging thats the aerial maybe the plod robbed it when they decomissioned the car

you could run a new aerial wire in from the aerial amp in the parcelshelf to the dashboard
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 20:00:29
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I get the impression that I shouldn't use scotchlocks then??  ;D  ;D

By the crimping connectors - do you mean like bullet or spade connectors that you crimp onto the wires?

 :y

Cheers Dave  :y
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 20:00:54
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there is usually a cable in a foam sort of packaging thats the aerial maybe the plod robbed it when they decomissioned the car

you could run a new aerial wire in from the aerial amp in the parcelshelf to the dashboard

Nope, not even an aerial amp there bud!
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: TheBoy on 07 May 2009, 20:05:24
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NO !  DO NOT USE SCOTCHLOCKS   >:(

they often give a very poor connection and the last thing you want is a live wire coming loose or heating up from being intermittant.

Solder is best, a crimp connector is just as good, and the old fashioned chocolate block screw terminals are adequate if you have enough space behind there.

But again - NO Scotchlocks, and no twisted wires either   ;)
What about twisting wires together, and insulating in sellotape?

And, yes, I have seen it done....
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 20:12:27
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NO !  DO NOT USE SCOTCHLOCKS   >:(

they often give a very poor connection and the last thing you want is a live wire coming loose or heating up from being intermittant.

Solder is best, a crimp connector is just as good, and the old fashioned chocolate block screw terminals are adequate if you have enough space behind there.

But again - NO Scotchlocks, and no twisted wires either   ;)
What about twisting wires together, and insulating in sellotape?

And, yes, I have seen it done....

Oh dear!!  :o
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: Andy B on 07 May 2009, 20:17:34
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NO !  DO NOT USE SCOTCHLOCKS   >:(

they often give a very poor connection and the last thing you want is a live wire coming loose or heating up from being intermittant.

Solder is best, a crimp connector is just as good, and the old fashioned chocolate block screw terminals are adequate if you have enough space behind there.

But again - NO Scotchlocks, and no twisted wires either   ;)
What about twisting wires together, and insulating in sellotape?

And, yes, I have seen it done....

Oh dear!!  :o

The best 'junction box' I've ever seen wasn't car related but in a bar I was in many years ago. It consisted of three 6" nails hammered into a block of wood with the live neutral & earth wires wrapped around them! :o At least they appeared to have proper insulation tape around them though!!  ;)
This was Mombassa though.  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Wiring in Electronic Aerial
Post by: damon80 on 07 May 2009, 20:32:44
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NO !  DO NOT USE SCOTCHLOCKS   >:(

they often give a very poor connection and the last thing you want is a live wire coming loose or heating up from being intermittant.

Solder is best, a crimp connector is just as good, and the old fashioned chocolate block screw terminals are adequate if you have enough space behind there.

But again - NO Scotchlocks, and no twisted wires either   ;)
What about twisting wires together, and insulating in sellotape?

And, yes, I have seen it done....

Oh dear!!  :o

The best 'junction box' I've ever seen wasn't car related but in a bar I was in many years ago. It consisted of three 6" nails hammered into a block of wood with the live neutral & earth wires wrapped around them! :o At least they appeared to have proper insulation tape around them though!!  ;)
This was Mombassa though.  :y  :y  :y

The bloke who did that didn't happen to be a retired police car fitter did he...?  :o  ;D