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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: miniator on 04 May 2009, 11:33:30
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i have a NCDC2013 but i would like to upgrade to the CID from the GID....
but whats involved? extra cabling? obviously the CID...ive read about programming and pairing and hte likes but im a little confused. if someone could lay that out nicely for me it would be much appreciated.
and i suppose i should ask....how much are we talking?
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De-pair GID from 2013
Remove GID from dash
install de-paired CID in dash and locate extra 12pin RGB cable tucked behind dash (hopefully - Elites have it, others probably don't)
Set coding of screen to match wheel size, engine size transmission type etc
pair 2013 to CID
Enjoy
Price varies wildly but expect to pay around £300 - £600 for a good de-paired CID, although there are other options that TheBoy will explain!
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£300-£600!!! are ya's wise in the head!!!!
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they are rare as rocking horse poo!
you will have more sucess finding a depaired one on german ebay www.ebay.de
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if only i spoke german....whats depaired in german anyways lol
can they not be depaired once removed?
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if only i spoke german....whats depaired in german anyways lol
can they not be depaired once removed?
They certainly can now :y
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dave to the rescue again!!
got the leads today, cheers man!!
i see a couple on ebay.de but theyre lookin big money for one. if the display its faulty....streaky is the word used....can it be easily fixed?? and will a CID from any car, provided its a NCDC HU, work!?
should also have asked....who makes the screens? Sharp?
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if only i spoke german....whats depaired in german anyways lol
can they not be depaired once removed?
They certainly can now :y
What's the charge for depairing the CID - have a spare one which is split from its head unit, it works fine no faults just needs depairing ready to use
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I had a CID that went 'streaky'. The fault was traced to a dry joint on the ribbon cable connector on the screen PCB. This PCB linked the screen to the other 2 PCBs. The joint was approx 0.5mm wide and a good friend of mine managed to re-flow the joint and cure the fault; eventually
The screen is replacable. The original part number is a Sharp LQ5AW126 which I believe has been superceded by a Sharp LQ5AW136 (this needs careful checking though).
As the screen is a distinct separate part within the CID, I believe it (the screen) could be replaced without affected the pairing issue, since the data and pairing code for the CID is held on boards 2 and 3 (taking the screen PCB as board 1) and these are not part of the screen (not CID) assembly.
New Sharp screen is approx £150 - £200
HTH and good luck
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I had a CID that went 'streaky'. The fault was traced to a dry joint on the ribbon cable connector on the screen PCB. This PCB linked the screen to the other 2 PCBs. The joint was approx 0.5mm wide and a good friend of mine managed to re-flow the joint and cure the fault; eventually
The screen is replacable. The original part number is a Sharp LQ5AW126 which I believe has been superceded by a Sharp LQ5AW136 (this needs careful checking though).
As the screen is a distinct separate part within the CID, I believe it (the screen) could be replaced without affected the pairing issue, since the data and pairing code for the CID is held on boards 2 and 3 (taking the screen PCB as board 1) and these are not part of the screen (not CID) assembly.
New Sharp screen is approx £150 - £200
HTH and good luck
those are my kind of prices now...
theres folks on ebay offering to fix CID's so im tempted to get the broken one on ebay.de and send it off on a chance.....
you say they are £150 new....where from tho?
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Earlier facelifts did not have the rgb cable for CIDs, so may need to do a bit of loom additions
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hmmm, maybe I should sell some of my headunits and CIDs ::)
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hmmm, maybe I should sell some of my headunits and CIDs ::)
Let me know if you want to sell the 1100! :y
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hmmm, maybe I should sell some of my headunits and CIDs ::)
Let me know if you want to sell the 1100! :y
Its for sale, but reckon I'll get more for it as a 'package' with CID, CDC3 and my conversin loom for prefacelifts...
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hmmm, maybe I should sell some of my headunits and CIDs ::)
Let me know if you want to sell the 1100! :y
Its for sale, but reckon I'll get more for it as a 'package' with CID, CDC3 and my conversin loom for prefacelifts...
Fair play, i'll keep an eye out for one. :y
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Its for sale, but reckon I'll get more for it as a 'package' with CID, CDC3 and my conversion loom for prefacelifts...
What's the package Jamie? A bit more info please! ;)
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Its for sale, but reckon I'll get more for it as a 'package' with CID, CDC3 and my conversion loom for prefacelifts...
What's the package Jamie? A bit more info please! ;)
The loom bit is simply a modified TM loom, so no mods to the cars loom.
As the CDC is 4 disc, I'd recommend, if you are Bose'd, to move CDC to the bose shelf, which means unclipping the cdc loom back to seat, then swing over to bose shelf.
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I had a CID that went 'streaky'. The fault was traced to a dry joint on the ribbon cable connector on the screen PCB. This PCB linked the screen to the other 2 PCBs. The joint was approx 0.5mm wide and a good friend of mine managed to re-flow the joint and cure the fault; eventually
The screen is replacable. The original part number is a Sharp LQ5AW126 which I believe has been superceded by a Sharp LQ5AW136 (this needs careful checking though).
As the screen is a distinct separate part within the CID, I believe it (the screen) could be replaced without affected the pairing issue, since the data and pairing code for the CID is held on boards 2 and 3 (taking the screen PCB as board 1) and these are not part of the screen (not CID) assembly.
New Sharp screen is approx £150 - £200
HTH and good luck
those are my kind of prices now...
theres folks on ebay offering to fix CID's so im tempted to get the broken one on ebay.de and send it off on a chance.....
you say they are £150 new....where from tho?
Please remember that it is £150 - 200 for a new Sharp LCD screen, without fitting it into the CID. The CID contains other gubbins and electronics as well, including some circuitry to boost the voltage to 600v IIRC !!!! Be careful if youre poking around inside it.
£150 - £200 is not the price of a new CID; if only and they could be sourced!!!!!!
I am lucky to have two goods friends who are both electrical techies (one works for what was the BBC outside broadcast unit, carrying out electronic equipment repairs) who assisted in the repeated dismantle, repair and reassembly of the unit.
Search the internet for "Sharp +LQ5AW136" copy and paste, the + includes the part number in the search parameter. There are suppliers out there.
HTH
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will do thanks.....if i got a streaky screen you think your mate could sort it out for a fee??
theboy....would you happen to have any CID's and a RGB cable spare??
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will do thanks.....if i got a streaky screen you think your mate could sort it out for a fee??
theboy....would you happen to have any CID's and a RGB cable spare??
The friends I mentioned vowed never to take another fault finding mission on , for a CID. If mine went again it would be new LCD time for ease!!!
I have PM'd you. Hope it helps
Ken
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The loom bit is simply a modified TM loom, so no mods to the cars loom.
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The TM loom that was originally fitted to my car was not intended for a CCRT and so did NOT clip onto the back of the radio cage, the plugs are the same electrically but not quite the same physically ie they don't clip on the CCRT cage ;). The CCRT uses a different TM loom that costs (when I enquired a few years back ) around £160 :o :o :o :o
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The loom bit is simply a modified TM loom, so no mods to the cars loom.
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The TM loom that was originally fitted to my car was not intended for a CCRT and so did NOT clip onto the back of the radio cage, the plugs are the same electrically but not quite the same physically ie they don't clip on the CCRT cage ;). The CCRT uses a different TM loom that costs (when I enquired a few years back ) around £160 :o :o :o :o
The NCDR1x00 cage isn't a full depth cage, so the missing clips aren't a problem. The tip is to tape the car loom to tm loom connector under a bar...
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found one on german ebay.....but my german is wild! although the headunit int he signum is the same as mine, will it fit in the dash ok??? and does it work too, the description doesnt make sense when run through a translation site!!
http://cgi.ebay.de/Opel-CID-Vectra-Signum-Navi-NCDC-201X_W0QQitemZ320367294878QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item320367294878&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
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Vectra C and Signum displays are not the same as the Omega ones.
The Omega ones were common to the Astra G, Vectra B and Omega
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balls.....thanks mark
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The Vectra-B/Signum, Astra-H/Zafira-B, Corsa-D ones are very, very different, and will not work in an Omega.
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Can the language be changed from say, German to English on a CID?
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Yep, with Tech II / Opelscanner
NB. some language functions are set on the Head unit menus.
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excellent news, i just need to get someone in NI thats handy with techII then. thanks VXL
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Can the language be changed from say, German to English on a CID?
Yes.
If you're really stuck, I can do via post, but guess the postage may make if prohibitive.
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i know someone with his own tech2. he seems switched on, can ask him if u want, hes not too far away from us
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please do man, i dunno if id trust vauxhall themselves! and im sure theyd cost a fortune too!! Thered be something in it for your mate as well like!
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leave it with me. his missus in hospital at min so obviosly hes a bit busy at min but i should see him over weekend mate.