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Title: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 14:33:30
My astra has a slight cluth judder first thing in the morning. Just for one or two engagements and then it seems fine. I found out that this is common on 2004>>>>> astras

http://forum.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13108

I asked the all-knowing one and he told me that, despite Vx claiming it was faulty friction material, it was, in fact, the DM flywheel that was the problem. Armed with this knowledge, I phoned EH and actually got the service manager to admit it was the flywheel and he booked it in for next Tuesday. So far, so good.

Now, the problem:

The clutch judders just once or twice on cold mornings. I took it to Liverpool yesterday and York on Tuesday, it was good as gold.

On the astra site, two of the guys who had replacement clutched had a very bad experience ( ;D) On the first the Vx technician  :D put copper grease on the spline on the output shaft. This, of course, immediately contaminated the clutch plate (I can hardly write this for laughing). On the second, one of the drive shafts fell out after a few miles, the AA man said all four bolts were missing ;D ;D

So, do I put up with a very slight judder on cold mornings or do I let Vx have my car?
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 14:35:01
Tell the truth now
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 14:51:27
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Tell the truth now

Now hes admitted its the DMF get it changed.......reality is they should do it right.....if they dont then the ball is still in thier court so they have to put anything else right
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 15:00:16
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On the astra site, two of the guys who had replacement clutched had a very bad experience ( ;D) On the first the Vx technician  :D put copper grease on the spline on the output shaft. This, of course, immediately contaminated the clutch plate (I can hardly write this for laughing). On the second, one of the drive shafts fell out after a few miles, the AA man said all four bolts were missing ;D ;D


Not sure about this last one.....there are no bolts on the drive shaft at all.....
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 15:00:51
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Tell the truth now

Now hes admitted its the DMF get it changed.......reality is they should do it right.....if they dont then the ball is still in thier court so they have to put anything else right

Yes.....but.....I still have two years warranty if it got any worse........ :-/
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 15:02:24
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Tell the truth now

Now hes admitted its the DMF get it changed.......reality is they should do it right.....if they dont then the ball is still in thier court so they have to put anything else right

Yes.....but.....I still have two years warranty if it got any worse........ :-/

Get it done now.....you will still have 2 years warranty and wont have clutch judder..........its not like its being fitted by RAC windscreens  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Jimbob on 14 February 2008, 15:03:54
Lets face it, if you leave it, its gonna get worse not better....
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 February 2008, 15:09:36
I have seen cases ,  it becomes worser.

Your decision..
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 15:15:35
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Tell the truth now

Now hes admitted its the DMF get it changed.......reality is they should do it right.....if they dont then the ball is still in thier court so they have to put anything else right

Yes.....but.....I still have two years warranty if it got any worse........ :-/

Get it done now.....you will still have 2 years warranty and wont have clutch judder..........its not like its being fitted by RAC windscreens  ;D ;D

Dont know how you kept so cool, I'd have smashed every van windscreen at the depot.
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 February 2008, 15:21:28
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Dont know how you kept so cool, I'd have smashed every van windscreen at the depot.

Excellent idea. They need the practice :y

Is the flywheel terminal and only going to get worse or will it just remain a slightly annoying judder every so often?

TBH, if they're going to do it FOC, best they do it ASAP. More chance of any consequential problems being solved under warranty.

Kevin
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 February 2008, 15:24:36
One mate from job have 1.6 Vectra C (new model 2004)..

clutch and flywheel is changed 2 times up to now..
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 15:51:30
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One mate from job have 1.6 Vectra C (new model 2004)..

clutch and flywheel is changed 2 times up to now..

Yes Cem. Vx were changing duff clutches and flywheels for.......duff clutches and flywheels.

Then the penny dropped ;D
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 15:53:49
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Dont know how you kept so cool, I'd have smashed every van windscreen at the depot.

Excellent idea. They need the practice :y

Is the flywheel terminal and only going to get worse or will it just remain a slightly annoying judder every so often?

TBH, if they're going to do it FOC, best they do it ASAP. More chance of any consequential problems being solved under warranty.

Kevin

OK for three days now. Car had been laid up for four months before I bought it so............. :-/
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Crazydad on 14 February 2008, 16:00:18
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My astra has a slight cluth judder first thing in the morning. Just for one or two engagements and then it seems fine. I found out that this is common on 2004>>>>> astras

http://forum.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13108

I asked the all-knowing one and he told me that, despite Vx claiming it was faulty friction material, it was, in fact, the DM flywheel that was the problem. Armed with this knowledge, I phoned EH and actually got the service manager to admit it was the flywheel and he booked it in for next Tuesday. So far, so good.

Now, the problem:

The clutch judders just once or twice on cold mornings. I took it to Liverpool yesterday and York on Tuesday, it was good as gold.

On the astra site, two of the guys who had replacement clutched had a very bad experience ( ;D) On the first the Vx technician  :D put copper grease on the spline on the output shaft. This, of course, immediately contaminated the clutch plate (I can hardly write this for laughing). On the second, one of the drive shafts fell out after a few miles, the AA man said all four bolts were missing ;D ;D

So, do I put up with a very slight judder on cold mornings or do I let Vx have my car?



its just like its owner you must judder a lot too, first thing in the morning at your age       LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh and as for the Car sell the heap of crap and get an omega, PMSL, this is the man that told us how unreliable Omegas are   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Del Boy on 14 February 2008, 16:27:14
Let them have it i'd say.
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 16:30:54
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My astra has a slight cluth judder first thing in the morning. Just for one or two engagements and then it seems fine. I found out that this is common on 2004>>>>> astras

http://forum.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13108

I asked the all-knowing one and he told me that, despite Vx claiming it was faulty friction material, it was, in fact, the DM flywheel that was the problem. Armed with this knowledge, I phoned EH and actually got the service manager to admit it was the flywheel and he booked it in for next Tuesday. So far, so good.

Now, the problem:

The clutch judders just once or twice on cold mornings. I took it to Liverpool yesterday and York on Tuesday, it was good as gold.

On the astra site, two of the guys who had replacement clutched had a very bad experience ( ;D) On the first the Vx technician  :D put copper grease on the spline on the output shaft. This, of course, immediately contaminated the clutch plate (I can hardly write this for laughing). On the second, one of the drive shafts fell out after a few miles, the AA man said all four bolts were missing ;D ;D

So, do I put up with a very slight judder on cold mornings or do I let Vx have my car?



its just like its owner you must judder a lot too, first thing in the morning at your age       LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh and as for the Car sell the heap of crap and get an omega, PMSL, this is the man that told us how unreliable Omegas are   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


                              (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/VSIGN.jpg)
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 16:34:19
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/VSIGN.jpg)


Correct, the Astra H only has one clutch and flywheel....
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Ironingboard on 14 February 2008, 16:50:38
Been in plenty of car situations where I had a problem with my car and just lived with it. Then it had a knock on affect with other parts. Cost a fortune to fix it in the end. I wish I had fixed it when it first became a problem.

Problem I refer to was a set of warped brake discs on my Ford. There was a brake judder when applying the brake. Nearly a year later it needed new steering rack, new shocks, new steering column joint, new brakes, new wishbones. I’m unsure if they were on their way out anyway but no way to know for sure.

Let them have it while it’s under warranty. Clutch judder..... I can just imagine it wearing out gearbox bearings, etc...
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Crazydad on 14 February 2008, 17:23:01
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My astra has a slight cluth judder first thing in the morning. Just for one or two engagements and then it seems fine. I found out that this is common on 2004>>>>> astras

http://forum.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13108

I asked the all-knowing one and he told me that, despite Vx claiming it was faulty friction material, it was, in fact, the DM flywheel that was the problem. Armed with this knowledge, I phoned EH and actually got the service manager to admit it was the flywheel and he booked it in for next Tuesday. So far, so good.

Now, the problem:

The clutch judders just once or twice on cold mornings. I took it to Liverpool yesterday and York on Tuesday, it was good as gold.

On the astra site, two of the guys who had replacement clutched had a very bad experience ( ;D) On the first the Vx technician  :D put copper grease on the spline on the output shaft. This, of course, immediately contaminated the clutch plate (I can hardly write this for laughing). On the second, one of the drive shafts fell out after a few miles, the AA man said all four bolts were missing ;D ;D

So, do I put up with a very slight judder on cold mornings or do I let Vx have my car?



its just like its owner you must judder a lot too, first thing in the morning at your age       LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh and as for the Car sell the heap of crap and get an omega, PMSL, this is the man that told us how unreliable Omegas are   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


                              (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/VSIGN.jpg)
touchy    lmao ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Entwood on 14 February 2008, 17:25:48
If you DON'T have it fixed, and in 6 months time the clutch/gearbox/engine(?)  fails, then they can easily say that YOU caused the problem by running with a known fault, and so side step the warranty leaving you with a large bill.

Get it done by them, if they do it wrong, they'll have to fix it a second time ...  :)
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 February 2008, 18:25:21
even its not fixed it must be legally recorded that you inform them about the fault on time..

and you have to have a signed paper in your pocket showing the date and problem..
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: MikeDundee on 14 February 2008, 18:39:18
Get yourself a decent car like an, ?????, you just know it's the right thing to do ::)
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 February 2008, 18:59:15
now I asked a mechanic from opel ..

They know the problem but go within official procedure ..

If the car mileage is low and factory accepts the customer complaint

they change the parts..

Problem : parts are not different from the original :-?


I also must state that women drivers dont have chance..they blame it

in their driving simply ;D

Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Dazzler on 14 February 2008, 20:03:10
Get it done, you know it makes sense. ;)
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 20:14:42
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now I asked a mechanic from opel ..

They know the problem but go within official procedure ..

If the car mileage is low and factory accepts the customer complaint

they change the parts..

Problem : parts are not different from the original :-?


I also must state that women drivers dont have chance..they blame it

in their driving simply ;D


Yes they are different, different clutch and DMFW were released by Gm at the end of 2007 with a new part number that superseded the old ones.
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 February 2008, 20:18:22
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now I asked a mechanic from opel ..

They know the problem but go within official procedure ..

If the car mileage is low and factory accepts the customer complaint

they change the parts..

Problem : parts are not different from the original :-?


I also must state that women drivers dont have chance..they blame it

in their driving simply ;D


Yes they are different, different clutch and DMFW were released by Gm at the end of 2007 with a new part number that superseded the old ones.


will be applied to here late I think..Because the friend said its same.. :-/

Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 February 2008, 20:21:42
Had one fitted on 'man fathers' in Jan.....

The parts were on back order but are now a bit easier to get.

They are different.....
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: theolodian on 14 February 2008, 20:22:59
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My astra has a slight cluth judder first thing in the morning. Just for one or two engagements and then it seems fine. I found out that this is common on 2004>>>>> astras

http://forum.astraownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13108

I asked the all-knowing one and he told me that, despite Vx claiming it was faulty friction material, it was, in fact, the DM flywheel that was the problem. Armed with this knowledge, I phoned EH and actually got the service manager to admit it was the flywheel and he booked it in for next Tuesday. So far, so good.

Now, the problem:

The clutch judders just once or twice on cold mornings. I took it to Liverpool yesterday and York on Tuesday, it was good as gold.

On the astra site, two of the guys who had replacement clutched had a very bad experience ( ;D) On the first the Vx technician  :D put copper grease on the spline on the output shaft. This, of course, immediately contaminated the clutch plate (I can hardly write this for laughing). On the second, one of the drive shafts fell out after a few miles, the AA man said all four bolts were missing ;D ;D

So, do I put up with a very slight judder on cold mornings or do I let Vx have my car?



its just like its owner you must judder a lot too, first thing in the morning at your age       LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh and as for the Car sell the heap of crap and get an omega, PMSL, this is the man that told us how unreliable Omegas are   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

                             (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/VSIGN.jpg)

PMSL!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 February 2008, 20:26:23
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Had one fitted on 'man fathers' in Jan.....

The parts were on back order but are now a bit easier to get.

They are different.....

good to hear they sorted..

Here new Astra have very high market ratio..

And also the new sedan..
Title: Re: Houston, I have a problem
Post by: STMO123 on 14 February 2008, 20:40:22
I'm letting all you omega owners boss me around ;D It's going in Tuesday.