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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: GmasterT on 10 July 2009, 10:52:58
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Hello guys,
My 2.5TD elite starter went the other day, changed it last night, starts lovely but now battery light on and wont charge!
I bridged a cable between the small nut (feed to alternator) from the battery, laboured the engine, but no difference on the volt output...
Desperatly need this for today :-[, so any help is much appreciated :y
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alternator main lead goes from alt to the main fat lead going to starter, then to battery.
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Cheers The Boy, I rented a van in the end :D
Further tests would indicate fried alternator, which may have been me then when I was pissing about with the starter ::)
Time to kind an altermanator then! :y
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Cheers The Boy, I rented a van in the end :D
Further tests would indicate fried alternator, which may have been me then when I was pissing about with the starter ::)
Time to kind an altermanator then! :y
Chances are you may only have fried the regulator, in which case relatively easy to replace
:y
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Right, well changed the alternator last night, started it and no change :'( :-/
Battery light still on and eventually turned itself off when it ran out of battery...
Didnt have a multi meter at the time and it was late so didnt really have a chance to check any thing.
Do the TD's have a charging relay I may have buggered?
:)
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ok, so did some more tests tonight, little wire has 2v coming out, big one... 0.05v!
BUT, tested the 'old' alternator on the windy gun, 14v no probs... can trace the big wire from the alt on the car, but it must go somewhere before the battery?
:y
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big wire goes to starter motor, where itas bolted to same stud as the big bugger from the battery
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Cheers The boy, the starter is ok, its the big alternator lead I need to trace, but it dont look so easy :(
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Cheers The boy, the starter is ok, its the big alternator lead I need to trace, but it dont look so easy :(
can't remember if it is pretty much direct, of it its in the loom.
Do you have 2 large cables going to starter (as well as 2 smaller ones)?
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Yeah, on the starter, 2 big ones (one to the battery) and 2 small (which seem connected?)
My electrical knowhow is not so strong at this level!
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Yeah, on the starter, 2 big ones (one to the battery) and 2 small (which seem connected?)
My electrical knowhow is not so strong at this level!
and the 2 big ones are bolted to same stud on back of starter motor?
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No, 4 studs on the starter solenoid, 2 big, 2 little.
4 wires, 2 big, 2 little
The big battery feed goes to the top big stud, I have forgotton where the other one goes (but that has a big wire going from that into the actual starter)
The 2 smaller connections cant get confused as ones 8mm and the other 10mm :) (although they seem to join).
I gather the starter earths through the body? As I said its starts/turns over fine, the engine does do a couple of 'skips' initially when running, but fine after 30secs or so...
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No, the big wire from alternator has to go to same stud as wire from battery - basically, the idea is its a single wire from alterntor back to battery, but shares starters wire from starter to battery.
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Ummm... so ignore the lower big stud and put them both on the same one? Its on how the previous one was :)
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generic pic of starter...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/GmasterT/276513504_tp.jpg)
what I have (from memory)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/GmasterT/omegaTDstarter.jpg)
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what I have (from memory)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/GmasterT/omegaTDstarter.jpg)
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The "pink" wire (which comes from the alternator) in your diagram needs to be connected to the same terminal as the "red" wire in your diagram.
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Ah, ok, my only concern is that im 99% sure it wasnt together before (ie the old starter had the wires as pictured) :)
:y
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There should never be anything else connected to the starter motor side of the solenoid. As said, alternator has to connect to the same terminal as the battery.
Kevin
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Well I bow down and humbley apologise, wacked them both on the top post and problem solved!
What a pleb! lol Ive changed loads of starters before, oh well, live and learn, cheers guys :) :y
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Well I bow down and humbley apologise, wacked them both on the top post and problem solved!
What a pleb! lol Ive changed loads of starters before, oh well, live and learn, cheers guys :) :y
We learn by our mistakes. Hopefully on OOF, we can learn from other peoples mistakes as well :y
I connected the alternator cable to solenoid on starter once, thought it was odd that the start motor kept running when the engine started ;D
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I connected the alternator cable to solenoid on starter once, thought it was odd that the start motor kept running when the engine started ;D
There's 2 quite substantial red/black wires above/side of a Senator's glove box, one has a male connector & the other a female. They just cry out to be connected together! You end up with the same result though, the starter keps running! :-? A few, myself included, have fallen for the same mistake! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D
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I've done worse before. ::) Try not remembering to tighten the starter mounting bolts.
Was on the Westfield. Starter decided to come adrift just after I'd dispatched some Saxo "baseball cap on wrong way round" type off the lights, just as it bounced off the rev limiter in 2nd. :o The sound of the starter nose interfacing with the flywheel was not pleasant. Thought I'd lunched it in a big way. ::)
Fortunately no damage done. :-[
Kevin
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Great result, GmT :y :y