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Title: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: andycab on 02 December 2009, 21:57:47
can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
                                 thanks
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: rustym95 on 04 December 2009, 13:55:23
dont think any one will reply, i know fog light should stay the same other wise you will get glare back in fog, could get yellow covers for them, or change them to spots i think, :y
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: VXL V6 on 04 December 2009, 14:18:02
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Tried a couple of different bulbs that claim to match but never seen one that actually does.

Tempted to fit HID's in them as they are very low down and unlikely to dazzle (the facelift ones are clear lensed as well).
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 December 2009, 14:27:43
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Tried a couple of different bulbs that claim to match but never seen one that actually does.

Tempted to fit HID's in them as they are very low down and unlikely to dazzle (the facelift ones are clear lensed as well).

On the contrary. Dipped beam headlights are controlled to have a precise beam "cutoff" below the height of approaching drivers eyes. Fog lights aren't controlled in any way and despite the fact that most of their light is directed to the kerbs there is still a significant amount of output in all (forward) directions. They do have the potential to dazzle, especially if uprated bulbs are fitted, IMHO.

I don't see the point in worrying about lights that may only be used when visibility is less than 100m.

Kevin
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 14:30:36
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I don't see the point in worrying about lights that may only be used when visibility is less than 100m.

I agree, you are starting to get a bit too "Anal" at that stage !!

 ::)
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 15:09:57
One of my all time pets hates is muppets blinding me with their sodding front foglights on all the time-Fiat Puntos and 206s seem to have the most blinding light pattern and NO (!) option to switch the STUPID things OFF.
Some "missing links" this way drive round in the dark with sidelights on, headlights off, foglights on-which blinds everyone makes them look further away than they really are.

In this rural area with dark, wet, undulating, slippery roads of varying width foglights are dangerous if used when not foggy (eg every time they switch the damned car on) as they temporarily blind cars coming towards them.

On the way home from Knighton to Leominster last night (20 miles/25 mins) 19 cars had a headlight out, 23 had front foglights on.  I counted...

The Police revenue people are missing a trick-they could run the force on defect fines and misuse of foglights fines alone around here.  That would be great  :y :y

Tempted to fit 100W PIA foglight bulbs to blind them back, but this would be childish  ;D
I'll just stick to my Philips Xtreme High Beams  ;D ;D




Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 15:22:06
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One of my all time pets hates is muppets blinding me with their sodding front foglights on all the time-Fiat Puntos and 206s seem to have the most blinding light pattern and NO (!) option to switch the STUPID things OFF.
Some "missing links" this way drive round in the dark with sidelights on, headlights off, foglights on-which blinds everyone makes them look further away than they really are.

In this rural area with dark, wet, undulating, slippery roads of varying width foglights are dangerous if used when not foggy (eg every time they switch the damned car on) as they temporarily blind cars coming towards them.

On the way home from Knighton to Leominster last night (20 miles/25 mins) 19 cars had a headlight out, 23 had front foglights on.  I counted...

The Police revenue people are missing a trick-they could run the force on defect fines and misuse of foglights fines alone around here.  That would be great  :y :y

Tempted to fit 100W PIA foglight bulbs to blind them back, but this would be childish  ;D
I'll just stick to my Philips Xtreme High Beams  ;D ;D





I too have noticed a tread to have fog lights on all the time.Are headlight design's that bad these days you need spot/fog lights on to see in the dark.As you say it's always the small cars with these on.

On the subject of up grading fog light bulbs,just try some nightbreakers but as stated you might get some back glare when using them in the fog.On mine there seems to be a adjuster screw on each light but this was set at the factory and by the looks you can only adjust left or right not up or down.
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 15:37:36
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Are headlight design's that bad these days you need spot/fog lights on to see in the dark.

No, its because everybody is messing around with el-cheapo bulbs from the net, that burn at funny colours and are not of the same focal length as the original bulbs as thought to be the best for the job by the manufacturers

 :P
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 15:41:43
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One of my all time pets hates is muppets blinding me with their sodding front foglights on all the time-Fiat Puntos and 206s seem to have the most blinding light pattern and NO (!) option to switch the STUPID things OFF.
Some "missing links" this way drive round in the dark with sidelights on, headlights off, foglights on-which blinds everyone makes them look further away than they really are.

In this rural area with dark, wet, undulating, slippery roads of varying width foglights are dangerous if used when not foggy (eg every time they switch the damned car on) as they temporarily blind cars coming towards them.

On the way home from Knighton to Leominster last night (20 miles/25 mins) 19 cars had a headlight out, 23 had front foglights on.  I counted...

The Police revenue people are missing a trick-they could run the force on defect fines and misuse of foglights fines alone around here.  That would be great  :y :y

Tempted to fit 100W PIA foglight bulbs to blind them back, but this would be childish  ;D
I'll just stick to my Philips Xtreme High Beams  ;D ;D





I too have noticed a tread to have fog lights on all the time.Are headlight design's that bad these days you need spot/fog lights on to see in the dark.As you say it's always the small cars with these on.

On the subject of up grading fog light bulbs,just try some nightbreakers but as stated you might get some back glare when using them in the fog.On mine there seems to be a adjuster screw on each light but this was set at the factory and by the looks you can only adjust left or right not up or down.

Daft isn't it!
I only ever use front when really foggy-less than 100m is the law, but 50m more like it.
Rear fogs are only of use to warn a car that can't see you, so as soon as I can see the car close behind me I turn them off as they too are blinding.

Some cars have a more intelligent switching system (eg Daihatsu Sirion) where fogs ONLY work with headlights on and when the lights are turned off, you have to physically switch the fogs back on again as the switch mechanism is loaded for this.

Personally, I think front fogs are a nuisance; the majority of people don't know what they are for and use them all the time; so any safety benefit during the occasional foggy patch use four or five times a year is far outweighed by the blinding they cause other drivers the rest of the time.

Car media is part to blame by always using them in photosets to make the subject look "cool".

Unneccesary foglights are my pet hate AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH >:( >:( >:(

Perhaps the police should be given powers to smash the rather things up with guns/fire-axes/lump hammers if they are left on and then make the driver eat all the pieces.


Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 15:47:13
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One of my all time pets hates is muppets blinding me with their sodding front foglights on all the time-Fiat Puntos and 206s seem to have the most blinding light pattern and NO (!) option to switch the STUPID things OFF.
Some "missing links" this way drive round in the dark with sidelights on, headlights off, foglights on-which blinds everyone makes them look further away than they really are.

In this rural area with dark, wet, undulating, slippery roads of varying width foglights are dangerous if used when not foggy (eg every time they switch the damned car on) as they temporarily blind cars coming towards them.

On the way home from Knighton to Leominster last night (20 miles/25 mins) 19 cars had a headlight out, 23 had front foglights on.  I counted...

The Police revenue people are missing a trick-they could run the force on defect fines and misuse of foglights fines alone around here.  That would be great  :y :y

Tempted to fit 100W PIA foglight bulbs to blind them back, but this would be childish  ;D
I'll just stick to my Philips Xtreme High Beams  ;D ;D





I too have noticed a tread to have fog lights on all the time.Are headlight design's that bad these days you need spot/fog lights on to see in the dark.As you say it's always the small cars with these on.

On the subject of up grading fog light bulbs,just try some nightbreakers but as stated you might get some back glare when using them in the fog.On mine there seems to be a adjuster screw on each light but this was set at the factory and by the looks you can only adjust left or right not up or down.

Daft isn't it!
I only ever use front when really foggy-less than 100m is the law, but 50m more like it.
Rear fogs are only of use to warn a car that can't see you, so as soon as I can see the car close behind me I turn them off as they too are blinding.

Some cars have a more intelligent switching system (eg Daihatsu Sirion) where fogs ONLY work with headlights on and when the lights are turned off, you have to physically switch the fogs back on again as the switch mechanism is loaded for this.

Personally, I think front fogs are a nuisance; the majority of people don't know what they are for and use them all the time; so any safety benefit during the occasional foggy patch use four or five times a year is far outweighed by the blinding they cause other drivers the rest of the time.

Car media is part to blame by always using them in photosets to make the subject look "cool".

Unneccesary foglights are my pet hate AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH >:( >:( >:(

Perhaps the police should be given powers to smash the rather things up with guns/fire-axes/lump hammers if they are left on and then make the driver eat all the pieces.



The other point being, what  possible use are they when it is not foggy-they only light the road a few metres directly ahead of the front of the car, which is not far enough ahead to give you stopping distance if you saw anything in the way, any way.  Pointless.

I could see the point while off roading at 5mph, though.

Otherwise POINTLESS!
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 15:49:14
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Are headlight design's that bad these days you need spot/fog lights on to see in the dark.

No, its because everybody is messing around with el-cheapo bulbs from the net, that burn at funny colours and are not of the same focal length as the original bulbs as thought to be the best for the job by the manufacturers

 :P
Totally agree .There's a idiot in Chichester with one of those Jap imports(big spoiler,lot of stickers,noisy exhaust) that's got pink bulbs fitted.Nice and another with green bulbs and they always have their fogs on too
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 15:51:30
LoL !!  ;D ;D

Have a Valium my friend . . . .

 . . . . But don`t drive until it wears off

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 15:58:40
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LoL !!  ;D ;D

Have a Valium my friend . . . .

 . . . . But don`t drive until it wears off

 ;D ;D

Not strong enough.  I'm turning green and my shirt is ripping.
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 16:06:58
Every time i see the car coming towards me i think it's pink fairy with bad wind
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:11:49
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Every time i see the car coming towards me i think it's pink fairy with bad wind

In my mind's own fantasy car crusher it goes.  And relax.  Breathe in.  And out.  Aaaaahh.
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 16:21:11
Stupid looking car with what looks like a book shelve for a rear spoiler.but the owner thinks it looks good 
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 04 December 2009, 16:23:10
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
                                 thanks

Mine are 10% blue and all it does is to take the edge of the yellow tinge. The shade of the light just gets a bit closer to the xenon but it's not an exact match.
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:24:16
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Stupid looking car with what looks like a book shelve for a rear spoiler.but the owner thinks it looks good 

In my dreams these are grab handles for giants to pick them up and DESTROY them.  Bwaahhaahhhaahhaaa.

I think I took my tablets in the wrong order.... ;D
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 04 December 2009, 16:28:35
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:29:24
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 04 December 2009, 16:33:27
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 16:38:43
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

At this point, I will now keep quiet

Just fitted green angel eyes on my Beach Buggy

 :-X
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 16:40:05
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

At this point, I will now keep quiet

Just fitted green angel eyes on my Beach Buggy

 :-X
no comment
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:41:46
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
                                 thanks

Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

God, its changed since then-wonder what you would think of it now with the new bits like the ace huge Manufaktura retail complex buit from the old fabric mills, etc?

Can't wait to go again.... ;)
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 16:44:22
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

At this point, I will now keep quiet

Just fitted green angel eyes on my Beach Buggy

 :-X
no comment

To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

 :(
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:46:00
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

At this point, I will now keep quiet

Just fitted green angel eyes on my Beach Buggy

 :-X
no comment

To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

 :(

You are therefore absolved of righteous punishment, methinks
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:48:35
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

At this point, I will now keep quiet

Just fitted green angel eyes on my Beach Buggy

 :-X
no comment

To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

 :(

You are therefore absolved of righteous punishment, methinks

I have just worked it out.  The heating has only just come on in our office and the rads were painted since they were last used, no wonder I'm feeling LOOPY  ;D
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 16:50:32
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

At this point, I will now keep quiet

Just fitted green angel eyes on my Beach Buggy

 :-X
no comment

To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

 :(
Never seen green one's,Personally can't see the point with coloured lights and neon's under the cars.
I was told neon tubes under cars were meant to make the car look like it was floating in the air but my imagination doesn't go that far.Must get some new pills
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 16:52:26
Just thinking . . . .

Berry head Lighthouse is just down the road . . .

I wonder where he gets his bulbs . . . . invertor . . .

nope, better stop there, as I fear Cruisetopoland may have now collapsed 

 ;D
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 04 December 2009, 16:53:48
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can anyone reccomend fog light bulbs to match hid headlights,also can main beam be upgraded
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Found them - these are the ones I have, hopefully not contrary to the discussions on this thread.  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HB4-Osram-Cool-Blue-4000k-9006-CB-bulbs-pair_W0QQitemZ300371762851QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ef8d5ea3

Rraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrhhhhhhhhhhh

They are not bad are they, plus they are Osrams ;) and to top it off I've visited Lodz in 1992. [smiley=tongue.gif]

God, its changed since then-wonder what you would think of it now with the new bits like the ace huge Manufaktura retail complex buit from the old fabric mills, etc?

Can't wait to go again.... ;)


Would like to go again one day. Our visit was part of the college course then. We had a choice between Barcelona and Wodz. Wodz was choosen due to cheap booze. ;D
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 December 2009, 16:54:38
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To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

 :(


...and if they're anything like the Westfield supplied ones they are self adjusting too.  8-) The offside one automatically aligns itself to illuminate the cays eyes about 8 ft in front of the car and the nearside one floodlights a point about 20ft up in the trees beside the road. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 December 2009, 16:56:20
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Just thinking . . . .

Berry head Lighthouse is just down the road . . .

I wonder where he gets his bulbs . . . . invertor . . .

nope, better stop there, as I fear Cruisetopoland may have now collapsed 

 ;D

Up on the desks.  All of you.

START SINGING OR I'M GONNA KICK OFF

lalalalalalaaaa llaallaaaaaallla
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 04 December 2009, 16:57:43
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To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

 :(


...and if they're anything like the Westfield supplied ones they are self adjusting too.  8-) The offside one automatically aligns itself to illuminate the cays eyes about 8 ft in front of the car and the nearside one floodlights a point about 20ft up in the trees beside the road. ::)

Kevin
these sound better than my headlights
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 December 2009, 17:02:32
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Just thinking . . . .

Berry head Lighthouse is just down the road . . .

I wonder where he gets his bulbs . . . . invertor . . .

nope, better stop there, as I fear Cruisetopoland may have now collapsed 

 ;D

Up on the desks.  All of you.

START SINGING OR I'M GONNA KICK OFF

lalalalalalaaaa llaallaaaaaallla

I'm thinking a pair of carbon arc lamps fed from a historically correct mercury arc rectifier, perhaps in the boot. Better hide the blue glow from the rectifier in case anyone thinks I'm a chav. ::)

 ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 17:03:25
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To be fair though, the green 5W bulb aint gonna blind anyone, and the main beam doesn`t appear to give out much more

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...and if they're anything like the Westfield supplied ones they are self adjusting too.  8-) The offside one automatically aligns itself to illuminate the cays eyes about 8 ft in front of the car and the nearside one floodlights a point about 20ft up in the trees beside the road. ::)

Kevin

Ah! sounds like you have the same set? Random beam direction with absolutely no beam pattern whatsoever?

Or do you actually have a set that works? if so PLLEEEASEEE let me know where from
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 December 2009, 17:09:15
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Ah! sounds like you have the same set? Random beam direction with absolutely no beam pattern whatsoever?

Or do you actually have a set that works? if so PLLEEEASEEE let me know where from

I think they're just the 5 3/4" one like the ones here: http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/lights_head.html.

In fairness the beam pattern is fine but my set favour a position that is not consistent with me seeing where I'm going (and are relentless in returning to that position).  >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 04 December 2009, 17:17:05
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Ah! sounds like you have the same set? Random beam direction with absolutely no beam pattern whatsoever?

Or do you actually have a set that works? if so PLLEEEASEEE let me know where from

I think they're just the 5 3/4" one like the ones here: http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/lights_head.html.

In fairness the beam pattern is fine but my set favour a position that is not consistent with me seeing where I'm going (and are relentless in returning to that position).  >:(

Kevin

Ah!, you have a "proper" set of headlights -- I meant something with the angel eye conversionbuilt in -

I have a set of these, and they are absolutely shite - but then I seldom drive the car in the dark anyway

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7-Crystal-Angel-Eyes-Full-Headlight-Kit-New_W0QQitemZ380127711992QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item58816092f8
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Martin_1962 on 05 December 2009, 10:17:59
On the way home from work I see 4 or 5 single headlamp cars, about 5 - 10 foggy cars, and 2 or 3 sidelight/fog light cars.

Actually I read somewhere that sidelight & foglight is a gay dating thing? Better spread it around.

Had my rear fogs on last night - front fog moron behind me and close. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: andycab on 06 December 2009, 03:06:31
wish id never asked now lol
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Selseybill on 06 December 2009, 14:54:21
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wish id never asked now lol

And don't ask about which oil to use
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 06 December 2009, 16:02:50
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wish id never asked now lol

And don't ask about which oil to use

And the same goes for Blue LED`s   ;D ;D
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 December 2009, 23:11:07
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Actually I read somewhere that sidelight & foglight is a gay dating thing? Better spread it around.

Might be onto something there Martin.

Have been trying to figure out why my self-levelling lights have started going high today.

Kevin
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: feeutfo on 07 December 2009, 01:32:00
oh the irony, here we are on a forum with cars that have quite possibly the worst head lights(hids aside) that i've encountered on a car, bemoaning  front fogs being used.
 I used my front fogs on my old face lift in the absence of any usefull light from the shite projecters that we all know are rubbish unless night brakers are used(didnt know about them at the time).

Personally its the rear fog light i find really irritating on other cars esp in rain.
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 07 December 2009, 09:14:33
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oh the irony, here we are on a forum with cars that have quite possibly the worst head lights(hids aside) that i've encountered on a car, bemoaning  front fogs being used.
 I used my front fogs on my old face lift in the absence of any usefull light from the shite projecters that we all know are rubbish unless night brakers are used(didnt know about them at the time).

Personally its the rear fog light i find really irritating on other cars esp in rain.

Agreed re poor Omega headlights-projectors are poor new and next to useless 10 years later...
Add this to the adjuster breaking issue and they are probably the worst feature of the car apart from the early facelift lack of boot opener combined with the daft boot release switch.

I have spent ages trying to get my facelift lights to be acceptable and have had them apart (with lots of help from welung666), cleaned everything, replaced both H1 and H7s with superbrights (Philips Xtreme and Osram Nightbreakers) and then got them properly aligned.
Dipped beam is now "ok" and main beam is "ok to good".

Being able to see safely at night is crucial, but foglights should not come into it as it makes the issue worse for oncoming drivers  :(

I've never understood why all cars not are fitted with superbright headlights as standard-it's a simple, cheap way to improve night driving safety.  Obvious really!
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 07 December 2009, 09:48:21
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I've never understood why all cars not are fitted with superbright headlights as standard-it's a simple, cheap way to improve night driving safety.  Obvious really!

No, I can`t agree with that - the brightness of the bulb may help, sure, but as far as I can tell its the quality of the optics / lens and correct focal length of bulb that is key. I personally have had many cars with some very bright bulbs and although everything closer appears a different colour and certainly brighter, the distance the light goes seldom changes, and certainly deteriorates with many bulbs.

On the other side, I currently have a Subaru forester as a winter hack, the bulbs are fairly dim to look at, but by god, it can light up for miles ahead of me - withoubt a doubt the best headlights I have ever driven on
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: cruisetopoland on 07 December 2009, 13:28:28
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I've never understood why all cars not are fitted with superbright headlights as standard-it's a simple, cheap way to improve night driving safety.  Obvious really!

No, I can`t agree with that - the brightness of the bulb may help, sure, but as far as I can tell its the quality of the optics / lens and correct focal length of bulb that is key. I personally have had many cars with some very bright bulbs and although everything closer appears a different colour and certainly brighter, the distance the light goes seldom changes, and certainly deteriorates with many bulbs.

On the other side, I currently have a Subaru forester as a winter hack, the bulbs are fairly dim to look at, but by god, it can light up for miles ahead of me - withoubt a doubt the best headlights I have ever driven on

Ok-the decent ones then, like I always use which are optically correct and last well: the best are Philips Xtremes

Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Dave DND on 07 December 2009, 13:52:49
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I've never understood why all cars not are fitted with superbright headlights as standard-it's a simple, cheap way to improve night driving safety.  Obvious really!

No, I can`t agree with that - the brightness of the bulb may help, sure, but as far as I can tell its the quality of the optics / lens and correct focal length of bulb that is key. I personally have had many cars with some very bright bulbs and although everything closer appears a different colour and certainly brighter, the distance the light goes seldom changes, and certainly deteriorates with many bulbs.

On the other side, I currently have a Subaru forester as a winter hack, the bulbs are fairly dim to look at, but by god, it can light up for miles ahead of me - withoubt a doubt the best headlights I have ever driven on

Ok-the decent ones then, like I always use which are optically correct and last well: the best are Philips Xtremes


You are right  :y

Pay good money for a recognised branded bulb and all should be well

 :y
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: feeutfo on 07 December 2009, 18:24:42
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I've never understood why all cars not are fitted with superbright headlights as standard-it's a simple, cheap way to improve night driving safety.  Obvious really!

No, I can`t agree with that - the brightness of the bulb may help, sure, but as far as I can tell its the quality of the optics / lens and correct focal length of bulb that is key. I personally have had many cars with some very bright bulbs and although everything closer appears a different colour and certainly brighter, the distance the light goes seldom changes, and certainly deteriorates with many bulbs.

On the other side, I currently have a Subaru forester as a winter hack, the bulbs are fairly dim to look at, but by god, it can light up for miles ahead of me - withoubt a doubt the best headlights I have ever driven on

Not sure if it was a web site or just a thread on a site, but when searching for info on a hid upgrade i stumbled on a whole long conversation on Zenon and hid head lights and how overly bright they are and they should be banned, and i nearly drove into a ditch  blinded by one of those new BMWs etc etc.

You just cant please all of the people all of the time. I still get flashed with my hids, they passed the MOT with flying colours, and i asked the tester to be really fussy with the lights.

 Mark dtm's garage door trick for setting head lights works very well by the way. :-)
Title: Re: upgrading fog lights/main beam
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 December 2009, 20:19:52
Off roader HIDs are worst - eye height and fully legal :o :o

My HID conversion is great :y