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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Weds on 28 March 2010, 19:37:28
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After quite a few hours I've finally tracked down the cause of the blowing fuse 15
I started by putting in in-line fuses to the heated front seats and the memory supply which seemed favourite down by the seat connection next to the sill.
Whilst messing about checking something else the main 20amp blew, didn't check at the time but later noticed the driver seat fuse had also gone, so out came the seat...
Found the feed around to the heater module which is a constant feed had rubbed against the metal frame of the seat and worn through the insulation.
The heater module looks like its pushed down inside the foam of the seat.
I did try taking a photo but the cable is right behind one of the seat motors, (and it was getting dark) also a bit of a pain to tape up. There was also a piece of sticky back plastic which looked as if it should have been wrapped around the seat frame to protect the cable but it hadn't been stuck down properly.
I think I'll leave the in-line fuses there, just in case :-)
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Well done!!! :y :y
The intermittant electrickery faults are always the hardest to sort.
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It's a nice feeling when you fettle a fault yourself isn't it? ;D :y
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Well diagnosed.
I must confess that none of us here would ever have thought of the use of in-lne fuses for a problem such as this, but we certainly shall now.
Such a simple and effective trick.
:y
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Well diagnosed.
I must confess that none of us here would ever have thought of the use of in-lne fuses for a problem such as this, but we certainly shall now.
Such a simple and effective trick.
:y
It was one of those lying in bed thinking about it moments ;-) Just trying to isolate the different parts of the circuit and narrow the fault down a bit.
What confused (ha ha) me a bit was that both fuses blew, I was expecting just the 10amp that I put in for the seat heating and not the main 20amp as well.
And aren't the seats heavy !
And I've now got £30 of fuel to use up in a F**d F*ocus before I hand it back.. I swapped my insurance over when I borrowed the car and topped it up with fuel the day before I fixed the Omega. The fuel consumption (compared to the Omega) is about the only redeeming feature of the Focus.
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
Oh shite!
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
Oh shite!
I got a phone call from the wife sitting on the hard shoulder telling me the car had broken down. I knew immediately what it was, fortunately I had a piece of tape on the fuse to indicate which one it was, so a swap over and away it went. Till it got home and it then started to blow a fuse every time.
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
Oh shite!
Why "oh shite"?
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Well done. :y That will certainly be one to bear in mind in case it happens to someone else.
Kevin
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
Oh shite!
Why "oh shite"?
Because cutting out on the outside lane of the M25 is a big deal seeing as you're probably going more than 70, have to make it across 2 lanes of heavy traffic with no power, and in a very dangerous place if you can't make it there
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
Oh shite!
Why "oh shite"?
Because cutting out on the outside lane of the M25 is a big deal seeing as you're probably going more than 70, have to make it across 2 lanes of heavy traffic with no power, and in a very dangerous place if you can't make it there
If the traffic is heavy then you won't be doing anywhere near 70 on the M25, trust me on that one. In fact, trying to reach 70 at any time of day on that particular road is a job in itself.
That aside though, 70mph is more than enough momentum to make it from lane 3 to the shoulder so long as the driver has basic spatial awareness skills and doesn't panic.
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God, this was a long-standing problem wasn't it? I remember you calling for help when you were on holiday last summer I think. You must be glad you got that one sorted! :y :y :y
Yes glad its sorted, but when the fault only happens about once every six months it can be hard to pin down. Problem is its always in the back of your mind whilst driving.
I blame my brother in law whose somewhat heavier than me and aggravated the fault when he was driving the car last time. Or perhaps I should thank him for making it fault so many times that I was able to sort it. I might have to buy him a beer :-) I think he's nearly recovered after the car cut out on the outside lane of the M25 :-)
Oh shite!
Why "oh shite"?
Because cutting out on the outside lane of the M25 is a big deal seeing as you're probably going more than 70, have to make it across 2 lanes of heavy traffic with no power, and in a very dangerous place if you can't make it there
If the traffic is heavy then you won't be doing anywhere near 70 on the M25, trust me on that one. In fact, trying to reach 70 at any time of day on that particular road is a job in itself.
That aside though, 70mph is more than enough momentum to make it from lane 3 to the shoulder so long as the driver has basic spatial awareness skills and doesn't panic.
Add to that the fact that you won't have much in the way of brakes, you may be going uphill and travelling at much less than 70, as you said, still a scary experience IMHO
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Add to that the fact that you won't have much in the way of brakes, you may be going uphill and travelling at much less than 70, as you said, still a scary experience IMHO
You will have brakes, you just have to exert more pressure on the brake pedal once you exhaust the vacuum in the servo.
As far as scary goes, try L3 of the M6 at 5pm in December with no engine, no electrics whatsoever (and I do mean NO electrics), and flames licking out between the bonnet and the wing ;)
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Add to that the fact that you won't have much in the way of brakes, you may be going uphill and travelling at much less than 70, as you said, still a scary experience IMHO
You will have brakes, you just have to exert more pressure on the brake pedal once you exhaust the vacuum in the servo.
As far as scary goes, try L3 of the M6 at 5pm in December with no engine, no electrics whatsoever (and I do mean NO electrics), and flames licking out between the bonnet and the wing ;)
Most new experiences lead to some form of apprehension, Mr KW ;). I know I nearly dumped my load when I got hit up the arse doing 100mph down the M3 for the first time ;). Subsequent times at similar speeds were more amusing ;) ;)
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Most new experiences lead to some form of apprehension, Mr KW ;). I know I nearly dumped my load when I got hit up the arse doing 100mph down the M3 for the first time ;). Subsequent times at similar speeds were more amusing ;) ;)
Not just me, then. :-[ Used to be the standard lunch-time activity when I was in sixth form. Whose car are we going to max out today between J4 and Fleet services and back via the naughty service road? :-X
Kevin
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Most new experiences lead to some form of apprehension, Mr KW ;). I know I nearly dumped my load when I got hit up the arse doing 100mph down the M3 for the first time ;). Subsequent times at similar speeds were more amusing ;) ;)
Not just me, then. :-[ Used to be the standard lunch-time activity when I was in sixth form. Whose car are we going to max out today between J4 and Fleet services and back via the naughty service road? :-X
Kevin
My old works van only ever did 100mph. Or standstill. No inbetween ::)
Did you do the stunt that was common in my (then) company - see another company van, ram it up the chuff, even if that is 100mph on the motorway ::) (he must have got a good slipstream, as the first time he hit me quite hard)
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Add to that the fact that you won't have much in the way of brakes, you may be going uphill and travelling at much less than 70, as you said, still a scary experience IMHO
You will have brakes, you just have to exert more pressure on the brake pedal once you exhaust the vacuum in the servo.
As far as scary goes, try L3 of the M6 at 5pm in December with no engine, no electrics whatsoever (and I do mean NO electrics), and flames licking out between the bonnet and the wing ;)
'kin ell, what happened?
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My old works van only ever did 100mph. Or standstill. No inbetween ::)
Did you do the stunt that was common in my (then) company - see another company van, ram it up the chuff, even if that is 100mph on the motorway ::) (he must have got a good slipstream, as the first time he hit me quite hard)
No. It probably wouldn't have been wise, considering I was driving my mum's volvo. Mind you, that thing was built like a brick khahzee, so probably would have been ideal if it didn't need such a steep incline to ton up in the first place. ::)
Kevin
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Add to that the fact that you won't have much in the way of brakes, you may be going uphill and travelling at much less than 70, as you said, still a scary experience IMHO
You will have brakes, you just have to exert more pressure on the brake pedal once you exhaust the vacuum in the servo.
As far as scary goes, try L3 of the M6 at 5pm in December with no engine, no electrics whatsoever (and I do mean NO electrics), and flames licking out between the bonnet and the wing ;)
'kin ell, what happened?
MK II Granada (2.8i Ghia X).
Heard (and felt) something heavy/solid hit the floor of the car when we were on the M1 at Scratchwood. Pulled over to the shoulder to see if anything was amiss (left engine running), but nothing obvious at all.
Journey was fine until J15 or thereabouts of the M6 where the first warning something was amiss was that the engine simply stopped as if the ignition had been switched off.
A few seconds after that, the dashboard went mental in the illumination stakes before total electrical failure struck.
All of the above happened quite literally in the space of a handful of seconds.
I managed to make it to the shoulder without too much trouble (although my brain had certainly been woken up by that time), and as we were moving from L1 to the shoulder thats when I noticed the flames licking out from the side of the bonnet.
Got the car stopped, pulled the bonnet release (left the bonnet down though obviously) and emptied a (now illegal) Halon extinguisher through the gap which achieved the desired result.
Got recovered to where we were going (Barrow) and took a look at what had happened the following day.
Seems the starter motor had fallen out (the earlier noise at Scratchwood must have been one of the starter motor bolts hitting the floor), landed on the subframe, shorted out the positive battery lead, which in turn caused the fire that wrecked the battery, battery leads, and the pipe that fed the oil pressure gauge.
Other damage that was also caused was the starter motor got f*cked when it parted company as it was flicked out by the flywheel, and the gearbox bellhousing was completely fractured all the way around.
I managed to get a shagged secondhand box from a breakers for £20, swapped the bellhousing over, fitted new battery and battery leads.
The local Ford dealer couldn't get me an oil pipe in time for going home, so I stabbed a hole in the oil filler cap and stuffed what was left of my original pipe in that hole.
I have also had the front sprocket fall off my GSX 11 on the M1, although that wasn't as bad as it could have been thanks to the chain I was using (it was too big to allow enough sideways flex for the sprocket to come off the end of the output shaft completely).
About the only motorway incident that has really got the chocolate starfish twitching was when the driveshaft on my GS1000 locked up solid due to a support bearing collapsing, which in turn caused the rear wheel to lock solid.
Again I made it to the shoulder without any damage being caused to machine or us, although that was more than likely down to gods favour rather than any skills I had picked up from my competition days.
After experiencing the shaft lockup, you can now probably guess why something like a simple ignition failure wouldn't phase me in the slightest.