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Title: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Jimbob on 03 June 2010, 21:28:16
My old car has the variable intermittant wipe.

my new one doesnt.

Is it just a case of swapping stalks and relay (which one?)

or is there extra wiring required? (as per the mod to fit to a vectra b)

Cheers
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: hotel21 on 03 June 2010, 22:17:23
Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Radar on 03 June 2010, 22:39:39
is it because they have auto rain sensors?

PS Completely off topic - why does jimbob have less stars by his name compared to hotel 21 even though he has more posts?
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: RobG on 03 June 2010, 23:03:46
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My old car has the variable intermittant wipe.

my new one doesnt.

Is it just a case of swapping stalks and relay (which one?)

or is there extra wiring required? (as per the mod to fit to a vectra b)

Cheers
To get the full range of timed intermittency you need to swap the relay under the bonnet as well.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225410105/25#25
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2010, 23:05:50
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Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)

Mine too. I think when the rain sensor came out they decided it was that or fixed intermittent. Wouldn't mind making mine variable actually. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: hotel21 on 03 June 2010, 23:05:52
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is it because they have auto rain sensors?

PS Completely off topic - why does jimbob have less stars by his name compared to hotel 21 even though he has more posts?

Jimbob is a moderator whereby he can and does add to and edit posts but cannot move posts/threads, delete users or update user profiles, unlike an admin.

Hopefully, thats an explanation in a nutshell!     :y
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: hotel21 on 03 June 2010, 23:07:46
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Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)

Mine too. I think when the rain sensor came out they decided it was that or fixed intermittent. Wouldn't mind making mine variable actually. :y

Kevin

That would explain it nicely, thanks..... 

Whats needed, do you think, to get the rain sensitive bit sorted?
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: TheBoy on 03 June 2010, 23:07:58
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is it because they have auto rain sensors?

PS Completely off topic - why does jimbob have less stars by his name compared to hotel 21 even though he has more posts?
Jimbob is a nobody, Hotel21 is also a nobody a god

:P :P
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: TheBoy on 03 June 2010, 23:08:38
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Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)

Mine too. I think when the rain sensor came out they decided it was that or fixed intermittent. Wouldn't mind making mine variable actually. :y

Kevin
I have a saloon stalk from a 2000 Elite. If you can tell me which relay, I have that too ;D
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2010, 23:17:43
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Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)

Mine too. I think when the rain sensor came out they decided it was that or fixed intermittent. Wouldn't mind making mine variable actually. :y

Kevin
I have a saloon stalk from a 2000 Elite. If you can tell me which relay, I have that too ;D

Ahh, now, I had that out and played with it, until I realised it was my wiper motor that was fubar. It's one of the relays in the box by the battery. Yellow one in front of the two purple ones (main engine relay and fuel pump relay) I think.

Kevin
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: RobG on 03 June 2010, 23:25:13
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Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)

Mine too. I think when the rain sensor came out they decided it was that or fixed intermittent. Wouldn't mind making mine variable actually. :y

Kevin
I have a saloon stalk from a 2000 Elite. If you can tell me which relay, I have that too ;D

Ahh, now, I had that out and played with it, until I realised it was my wiper motor that was fubar. It's one of the relays in the box by the battery. Yellow one in front of the two purple ones (main engine relay and fuel pump relay) I think.

Kevin
That`s the one,  :y
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Jimbob on 04 June 2010, 07:09:53
So anyone know if the loom is there for it to work?

iirc on the vectra B, you added the stalk, the relay, and ran a couple of wires.

As they were standard on so many omega's I am hoping its just the stalk and relay needed. and the plugs are already there.
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Radar on 04 June 2010, 08:57:21
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is it because they have auto rain sensors?

PS Completely off topic - why does jimbob have less stars by his name compared to hotel 21 even though he has more posts?
Jimbob is a nobody, Hotel21 is also a nobody a god

:P :P

LOL! Nice one!!
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 June 2010, 11:36:43
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So anyone know if the loom is there for it to work?

iirc on the vectra B, you added the stalk, the relay, and ran a couple of wires.

As they were standard on so many omega's I am hoping its just the stalk and relay needed. and the plugs are already there.

I believe the variable wipe works by placing a resistance in the feed from switch to delay relay instead of just a short circuit, so the wire is there. May need to bodge the connectors at the stalk end if they are different though. Will have a TIS later. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: RobG on 04 June 2010, 11:41:28
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So anyone know if the loom is there for it to work?

iirc on the vectra B, you added the stalk, the relay, and ran a couple of wires.

As they were standard on so many omega's I am hoping its just the stalk and relay needed. and the plugs are already there.
Read the guide in my reply all info needed is there :y
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Jimbob on 04 June 2010, 12:02:05
cheers, totally missed that link 1st time round  :y

not quite as easy as I hoped, but certainly doable  :y
looks a prime candiate for a proper how to  :y
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: RobG on 04 June 2010, 12:37:30
I found it easier and quicker just to cut the connector off the variable stalk then solder/heatshrink existing 3-pin connector then make the connections with the Black/Yellow and Black/White wires. Took me about 10mins
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2010, 12:49:33
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Watching quietly on the side, to see what develops.....   :-X   ;)

Sons 3.0 facelift estate had variable wipe (and rear wash/wipe) but mine does not, for some reason. Dunno why, his had the same spec as mine.... ::)

Mine too. I think when the rain sensor came out they decided it was that or fixed intermittent. Wouldn't mind making mine variable actually. :y

Kevin
I have a saloon stalk from a 2000 Elite. If you can tell me which relay, I have that too ;D

Ahh, now, I had that out and played with it, until I realised it was my wiper motor that was fubar. It's one of the relays in the box by the battery. Yellow one in front of the two purple ones (main engine relay and fuel pump relay) I think.

Kevin
Is it the only yellow relay - seeing as all those that survived (I broke one on removal :o) are in a pile in the garage ;D

If you want them, they are yours - may even have the connector at stalk end.

(Jimbob - would have offered to you, but this is saloon one, thus no good for yours)
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 June 2010, 13:27:43
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cheers, totally missed that link 1st time round  :y

not quite as easy as I hoped, but certainly doable  :y
looks a prime candiate for a proper how to  :y

Agreed. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 June 2010, 13:29:44
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Is it the only yellow relay - seeing as all those that survived (I broke one on removal :o) are in a pile in the garage ;D

If you want them, they are yours - may even have the connector at stalk end.

(Jimbob - would have offered to you, but this is saloon one, thus no good for yours)

Wiper delay relay would work for an Estate surely? Stalk different, though, I guess.

If you haven't got a better home for them I'll take them and have a play. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Jimbob on 04 June 2010, 13:31:34
Well volunteered kev  :y

Look forward to seeing the guide  :y

If needs be, it can be added to for the estate version when I do mine :y
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 June 2010, 13:37:47
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Well volunteered kev  :y

Look forward to seeing the guide  :y

If needs be, it can be added to for the estate version when I do mine :y

 :o

.. off to plagiarise RobG's post.

Kevin
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: BigAl on 09 June 2010, 19:17:36
Kevin

feel free to use any of my pictures for the guide

Al :y
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: Boditza on 10 June 2010, 06:52:15
please make a how to guide with pictures because i want to install this feature also auto dimm interior mirror :)
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: neilr on 10 June 2010, 15:43:09
I have 2 2001 2.6 cd's 1 has variable intermittant wipe 1 dosnt how can I tell if the 1 that hasnt has rain sensitive sensor.
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: RobG on 10 June 2010, 16:30:36
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I have 2 2001 2.6 cd's 1 has variable intermittant wipe 1 dosnt how can I tell if the 1 that hasnt has rain sensitive sensor.
When it rains your wipers will work by themselves ::)
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: neilr on 10 June 2010, 16:45:31
sure it didnt do that the other day any other way to check Rob thanks.
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: RobG on 10 June 2010, 16:54:39
Top centre of windscreen. For rain sensitive wipers there will be a sensor. Most late model Elite`s had it as standard. Lower specs was an option.
Title: Re: retrofitting variable intermittant wipe.
Post by: TheBoy on 10 June 2010, 19:18:10
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please make a how to guide with pictures because i want to install this feature also auto dimm interior mirror :)
already a guide, but think its in Test section as I need to add later wiring spec...