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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Dave DND on 18 June 2010, 16:17:23
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Dear all - I`m looking into investigating some of the faults on the CID displays, but need some "donor" units to play with - I`ve been messing with Porsche dash`s of late, and discovered some stunning similarities - which means that if correct, I may possibly be able to ressurect some of the CID`s in the future.
If anyone has any faulty / dead / demised screens that are cluttering up the garage, I would be most gratefull if they could be thrown my way. I`m not bothered about any faults they may have / pixellation etc / and even smashed / damaged screens etc would be very usefull - I`m actually looking at the circuit board faults, and its the circuit board internals that I am actually after - I`ll almost certainly destroy a few in my research which is why I`m looking for some to mess about with.
If anyone can assist, please let me know, and I will can arrange for a courier to collect them.
Thanks !
:)
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I have one with the usual dead pixels that you're more than welcome to..
Just as soon as I can figure out how to get it out of the dash and try replacing it with the one I got off eBay.. ;D (I watched the instructional video, which says to lower the steering column.. to my discredit, I can't figure out how to do that!)
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I have one with the usual dead pixels that you're more than welcome to..
Just as soon as I can figure out how to get it out of the dash and try replacing it with the one I got off eBay.. ;D (I watched the instructional video, which says to lower the steering column.. to my discredit, I can't figure out how to do that!)
Thats very kind of you - I may even be able to return the favour !
If you want to send both screens over to me, I should be able to transfer the data from the old one to the new one for you - and this should save the need to have the new one Tech2`d into the car - should simply be plug and play if I`m right !!
PM me when ready and I can arrange a courier.
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Also,
can anyone point me at a vehicle circuit diagram that would show the Omega connections / Pinout for the CID - helps me to make a full test rig for them as well then
;)
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Also,
can anyone point me at a vehicle circuit diagram that would show the Omega connections / Pinout for the CID - helps me to make a full test rig for them as well then
;)
PM sent Dave.
Chris :y
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Also,
can anyone point me at a vehicle circuit diagram that would show the Omega connections / Pinout for the CID - helps me to make a full test rig for them as well then
;)
PM sent Dave.
Chris :y
Cheers Chris - Very Usefull
:y
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I have one with the usual dead pixels that you're more than welcome to..
Just as soon as I can figure out how to get it out of the dash and try replacing it with the one I got off eBay.. ;D (I watched the instructional video, which says to lower the steering column.. to my discredit, I can't figure out how to do that!)
Sure its a CID? A CD from that era would be a MID (which would explain pixel issues). I believe Dave DND is only after CIDs.
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I have one with the usual dead pixels that you're more than welcome to..
Just as soon as I can figure out how to get it out of the dash and try replacing it with the one I got off eBay.. ;D (I watched the instructional video, which says to lower the steering column.. to my discredit, I can't figure out how to do that!)
Sure its a CID? A CD from that era would be a MID (which would explain pixel issues). I believe Dave DND is only after CIDs.
CID`s are certainly what I am after, but as I will inevitably be looking at other screens in the near future, I am certainly not going to turn away any donor units !!
Any MIDS / TIDS that also end up here as a result are all very very welcomed and appreciated
:)
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PM sent :y
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Dave
Its great that someone experienced like you is prepared to have a look at faulty CIDs with a view to perhaps helping forum members to avoid the approx $1300 (sorry I mean pounds, but I'm in USA at the moment and can't find a pounds sign anywhere on this PC) that the dealers want for a new one. But from reading the experience of people on this forum and my own experience with a faulty CID, it is normally only the LCD screen that cause problems and in the past they could be sourced reasonably easily and replaced. However the screens on their own are now very difficult to find (unless you or anyone else knows different). That is not to say that it is great that you are offering to look at faulty items with a view to helping forum members. Its just that as above I think that circuit board or component faults are fairly rare on these CIDs (again unless anyone else knows differently)
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Dave
Its great that someone experienced like you is prepared to have a look at faulty CIDs with a view to perhaps helping forum members to avoid the approx $1300 (sorry I mean pounds, but I'm in USA at the moment and can't find a pounds sign anywhere on this PC) that the dealers want for a new one. But from reading the experience of people on this forum and my own experience with a faulty CID, it is normally only the LCD screen that cause problems and in the past they could be sourced reasonably easily and replaced. However the screens on their own are now very difficult to find (unless you or anyone else knows different). That is not to say that it is great that you are offering to look at faulty items with a view to helping forum members. Its just that as above I think that circuit board or component faults are fairly rare on these CIDs (again unless anyone else knows differently)
Yes, I think I may know different !!
But before you all bombard me with questions regarding the supply of screens I have found for a different make, I need to check that these work first, as on the other make pcb they can cause PCB faults instead of screen faults - need to isolate the problem so that I can "beef up" any components as required.
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I have one with the usual dead pixels that you're more than welcome to..
Just as soon as I can figure out how to get it out of the dash and try replacing it with the one I got off eBay.. ;D (I watched the instructional video, which says to lower the steering column.. to my discredit, I can't figure out how to do that!)
Adjustable steering column was on mini facelift and facelift only unless retro fitted by a previous owner.
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Sure its a CID? A CD from that era would be a MID (which would explain pixel issues). I believe Dave DND is only after CIDs.
Whoops, you're right .. it's an early type MID :-[
Adjustable steering column was on mini facelift and facelift only unless retro fitted by a previous owner.
Ah damn .. that means (according to the service manual, at least) removing the steering wheel then..
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Sure its a CID? A CD from that era would be a MID (which would explain pixel issues). I believe Dave DND is only after CIDs.
Whoops, you're right .. it's an early type MID :-[
Adjustable steering column was on mini facelift and facelift only unless retro fitted by a previous owner.
Ah damn .. that means (according to the service manual, at least) removing the steering wheel then..
You can remove the steering column cover without taking the steering wheel off.Place your key in the ignition unlock position and tur your steering wheel 90 degrees and you will see a small round screw cover.prize off the cover and remove the screw.Turn the steering wheel back and keep going until you see the other screw cap and repeat removal.There are a few more screws underneath the steering column cover to remove and that will then seperate carefully top and bottom.I hope that helps.
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Sure its a CID? A CD from that era would be a MID (which would explain pixel issues). I believe Dave DND is only after CIDs.
Whoops, you're right .. it's an early type MID :-[
Adjustable steering column was on mini facelift and facelift only unless retro fitted by a previous owner.
Ah damn .. that means (according to the service manual, at least) removing the steering wheel then..
You can remove the steering column cover without taking the steering wheel off.Place your key in the ignition unlock position and tur your steering wheel 90 degrees and you will see a small round screw cover.prize off the cover and remove the screw.Turn the steering wheel back and keep going until you see the other screw cap and repeat removal.There are a few more screws underneath the steering column cover to remove and that will then seperate carefully top and bottom.I hope that helps.
The problem I found with my last Omega (1994, 2.5 CD, fixed steering column) was that I could get the screws out and pull the instruments away from the connectors but I couldn't get the instruments out from behind the wheel.
Removing the wheel isn't that difficult but you do need to take precautions.
1. Disconnect the battery 5 minutes before removing the air bag to minimise the chance of it going off.
2. Use a puller to remove the wheel. Don't thump it as the shear pin in the collapsible steering column might break
3. When it does come off the spring behind it is strong enough to give you a nose bleed if you don't get out of the way :(
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3. When it does come off the spring behind it is strong enough to give you a nose bleed if you don't get out of the way :(
;D Sorry, I shouldn't laugh!
I've always found a pillow works quite well for avoiding looking like you've been in a car accident the next day ;)
Incidentally it seems while my car has an early-type MID, I bought a late-type MID off eBay, and they have different connectors on the back..
Anyone want a late-type MID :-[ Dave, if a late-type MID is any use to you I'm happy to donate it to the cause ;)
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3. When it does come off the spring behind it is strong enough to give you a nose bleed if you don't get out of the way :(
;D Sorry, I shouldn't laugh!
I've always found a pillow works quite well for avoiding looking like you've been in a car accident the next day ;)
Incidentally it seems while my car has an early-type MID, I bought a late-type MID off eBay, and they have different connectors on the back..
Anyone want a late-type MID :-[ Dave, if a late-type MID is any use to you I'm happy to donate it to the cause ;)
Yes please
PM me your address and contact details :y
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Please excuse the slight hijack, and my ignorance but....
CID, MID, & TIDs? I know the Information Display bit, and assume Colour & Monochrome, but whats the T?
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CID - Colour Information Device (full height) For NCDx range
TID - Triple info display (half height)
GID - Graphic Information Device (half height) For NCDx range
MID - Multi info display (full height)
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CID - Colour Information Device (full height) For NCDx range
TID - Triple info display (half height)
GID - Graphic Information Device (half height) For NCDx range
MID - Multi info display (full height)
That info with some pics would be handy under the maintainence guides as usufull info, also a list of stereos in decending order and pics so they can be identified, as I am currently try to find out what the best equipment was in the facelifts, so far I am guessing NCDC2013 with CID
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Display units guide here:-
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1153215783
The top level of equipment is NCDC2015, CID and Telematics. :y
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telematics?
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GSM Phone unit in glovebox
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ah.
Curious as to which version of mig you had to buy to get a CID, or was it an optional extra, or an opel thing?
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Always an option, never a standard piece of equipment.
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So it looks like my GLS has got a TID then
and the Elite has a CCRT with the CCRT 700.
Colour displays - are they facelift only?
NCDC2015, CID and Telematics.
So whats next (going down the levels)
NCDC2015 and MID
NCDC2013 and MID
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Display units guide here:-
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1153215783
The top level of equipment is NCDC2015, CID and Telematics. :y
Found one on head units as well.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1153215783
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So it looks like my GLS has got a TID then
and the Elite has a CCRT with the CCRT 700.
Colour displays - are they facelift only?
NCDC2015, CID and Telematics.
So whats next (going down the levels)
NCDC2015 and MID
NCDC2013 and MID
I have a CID in my prefacelift MV6 ::)
Generally, the stereo defines the display, except (from a radio point of view) MID and TID are interchangable, and the GID and CID are interchangable (tech2 required).
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Now I'm really confused, thought the MV6 was a facelift model only?
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Now I'm really confused, thought the MV6 was a facelift model only?
Nope, started in model year 98 iirc.
then got facelifted with the rest :y
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But still with the 3.0 til the lift? was it actually badged MV6?
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yup
although some were factory debadged...
Neither of ours have the MV6 door stamp, but seen plenty that have.
prefacelift, MV6's exist in Saloon or Estate, with the 3.0 engine only
They have the 2 tone irmscher wheels, and are lowered using shocks only. have the carbon fibre interior with sports cloth or leather seats.
facelift were saloon or estate again, could be 3.0, 2.6 or 3.2
Silver interior, lowered with shocks and springs, similar sports leather or cloth seats (slightly different colour)
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My MV6 is a retail prefacelift 1998 model.
All prefacelift MV6 are 3.0l - the only 3.0l in the range except Elites.
Facelift MV6s can be 3.0l (2000MY) or 2.6/3.2 (2001 onwards). There is a 2.2 variant (2001 onwards), but is badged Sport instead of MV6