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Title: I can't believe this
Post by: CaptainZok on 19 February 2008, 22:55:19
This lot seem to be able to let you buy a driving licence without taking a test or anything. Surely it can't be legal, but would explain the standards of driving we see these days.
www dot dlprocure dot com




Edited to stop the web crawlers giving them more traffic.
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 February 2008, 22:59:59
dont know UK but in many EU countries its legal at least on the paper..

pay the money and get the license.. :(
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: hotel21 on 19 February 2008, 23:02:25
Only had a quick look but it appears legit-ish....  Making full use of the not fully integrated licence structure between member states to exploit loopholes and existing bad practice...

Sad but probably quite true....

You seen how much profit they are making from a couple of second class stamps??
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: zippo on 19 February 2008, 23:05:04
unbelievable words fail me  :o
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: CaptainZok on 19 February 2008, 23:05:42
So for the price of a dozen or so driving lessons you can have a full licence for car, bike, class 1 and psv?
Madness.
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: miggy on 19 February 2008, 23:07:22
These type of organisations should be closed down.period >:(
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: zippo on 19 February 2008, 23:10:12
so its possible to have has many as you like  use the license for i.d purposes and cause chaos
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: hotel21 on 19 February 2008, 23:12:32
 ;D

I like this bit....

It is your legal right to hold any member countrys' E.U. driving licence. Ideally, you should be driving on a licence that is issued in a different E.U. country to the country in which you are resident and driving for a number of reasons. The main reason is to make it more difficult for the authorities to log a permanent record of your driving licence and driving history should you be prosecuted for driving offences.

In other words, smoke and mirrors.  A bit like the company thats doing tha 'arranging'.  

info@DLprocure.com
DL Procure Gibraltar Ltd.
Company No. 56746879


We collectively vote in things and hope that others pick the bones out of the slopmess thats left.....    >:(
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: CaptainZok on 19 February 2008, 23:17:21
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;D

I like this bit....

It is your legal right to hold any member countrys' E.U. driving licence. Ideally, you should be driving on a licence that is issued in a different E.U. country to the country in which you are resident and driving for a number of reasons. The main reason is to make it more difficult for the authorities to log a permanent record of your driving licence and driving history should you be prosecuted for driving offences.

In other words, smoke and mirrors.  A bit like the company thats doing tha 'arranging'.  

info@DLprocure.com
DL Procure Gibraltar Ltd.
Company No. 56746879


We collectively vote in things and hope that others pick the bones out of the slopmess thats left.....    >:(

So one of these dodgy licences, some foreign plates on the miggy and speed cameras, road tax, insurance and parking fines become a thing of the past?
The lunatics are finally running the asylum. :o :o
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: zippo on 19 February 2008, 23:19:10
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;D

I like this bit....

It is your legal right to hold any member countrys' E.U. driving licence. Ideally, you should be driving on a licence that is issued in a different E.U. country to the country in which you are resident and driving for a number of reasons. The main reason is to make it more difficult for the authorities to log a permanent record of your driving licence and driving history should you be prosecuted for driving offences.

In other words, smoke and mirrors.  A bit like the company thats doing tha 'arranging'.  

info@DLprocure.com
DL Procure Gibraltar Ltd.
Company No. 56746879


We collectively vote in things and hope that others pick the bones out of the slopmess thats left.....    >:(

So one of these dodgy licences, some foreign plates on the miggy and speed cameras, road tax, insurance and parking fines become a thing of the past?
The rich lunatics are finally running the asylum. :o :o[/quote]
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Big Fra on 19 February 2008, 23:44:03
So technically, if someone had their UK licence taken from them (disqualified), they could apply to this lot and get back on the road?

I hope this does not get out to the dangerous, drunk, drug drivers.

I understand some people can make mistakes, but this could prove very dangerous.
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Entwood on 19 February 2008, 23:46:46
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So technically, if someone had their UK licence taken from them (disqualified), they could apply to this lot and get back on the road?

I hope this does not get out to the dangerous, drunk, drug drivers.

I understand some people can make mistakes, but this could prove very dangerous.


Not very prominent it does however point out on that site ...

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If you have a driving ban from your country, the fact that you have a licence from another country will not give you the right to exchange or even drive in the country you have been banned from.

but the chances of being caught .........  :(
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Vamps on 19 February 2008, 23:49:37
Slim. :o
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: hotel21 on 19 February 2008, 23:58:17
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So technically, if someone had their UK licence taken from them (disqualified), they could apply to this lot and get back on the road?

I hope this does not get out to the dangerous, drunk, drug drivers.

I understand some people can make mistakes, but this could prove very dangerous.

Think about it from a practical point of view.....

You are a real deal standard UK citizen from Glasgow/Manchester/Cardiff/Belfast/whatever and get a ban.....

You then apply via this company and get a 'licence' from Uzbeckistan or some other near relation EEC contry and then drive about, oblivious to potential jail....

.... and get stopped one day by the Police....

Picture the scene...

You, a fluent english speaker (OK, Glaswegian...  :D) are claiming to be a recent emigrant from Poland/Chez Republic with a licence from said country.

Fast forward to, oh, 30 seconds later and you try to scratch your nose when your hands are cuffed behind you and are en route to your local copshop for a livescan fingerprint scan to verify your true ID prior to jail.....

OK, a tad far fetched but, yes, someone of suitable ethnic origin can and probably will use such a method to get a driving licence of sorts.  Its just not suitable for all.....

Bring back real trafpol, rather than Talivans, says I!!   ;)
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Big Fra on 20 February 2008, 00:04:33
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So technically, if someone had their UK licence taken from them (disqualified), they could apply to this lot and get back on the road?

I hope this does not get out to the dangerous, drunk, drug drivers.

I understand some people can make mistakes, but this could prove very dangerous.

Think about it from a practical point of view.....

You are a real deal standard UK citizen from Glasgow/Manchester/Cardiff/Belfast/whatever and get a ban.....

You then apply via this company and get a 'licence' from Uzbeckistan or some other near relation EEC contry and then drive about, oblivious to potential jail....

.... and get stopped one day by the Police....

Picture the scene...

You, a fluent english speaker (OK, Glaswegian...  :D) are claiming to be a recent emigrant from Poland/Chez Republic with a licence from said country.

Fast forward to, oh, 30 seconds later and you try to scratch your nose when your hands are cuffed behind you and are en route to your local copshop for a livescan fingerprint scan to verify your true ID prior to jail.....

OK, a tad far fetched but, yes, someone of suitable ethnic origin can and probably will use such a method to get a driving licence of sorts.  Its just not suitable for all.....

Bring back real trafpol, rather than Talivans, says I!!   ;)

Very true, I am merely thinking out loud as to what some people could try and do.

TBH, if they do this, and your scenario happens, they get caught and deserve all they get, if not more!

OK, I'm off my soapbox now. :)
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: file28 on 20 February 2008, 00:35:30
that explains some of the pricks diving around our area ie wrexham with about 5000 poles etc
no legit licence ins or mot
when stopped pretend not to speak english
old bill can't be arsed
on yer way
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: zirk on 20 February 2008, 01:44:27
My Father (now retired) spent pretty much most of his Career as a Diplomat, being posted every 3 or 7 years overseas somewhere (which was good for me as from 7 yrs upwards I get to go somewhere different for my summer holidays, but that’s another story).

I seem to remember that before the introduction of an International Licence, It was required that for him to drive in another country that he would have to take a test and pass enabling him to drive in that said country (I'm going back a few years now!). As a diplomat the Embassy would apply on his behalf for a provisional licence for that country and the said State would endorse the application with a Full Driving Licence (providing he had a Full licence of his diplomatic country) some sort of Gentlemen’s agreement within the diplomat world.

All this was supposed to come to a end with the introduction of the International Licence, but for Diplomats it didn't, simply because some Countries (purely for example only, Russia, the Police would target Diplomatic Number Plate drivers, and at Gun Point would ask the drivers to produce there Papers (Passport, Dipo ID and Driving Licence, which by international law was required) and then under Russian Police Road Law would then threaten to confiscate the Driving Licence unless a fixed fine for (say) $1000 was paid, under the new International Driving Licence Rules that could feedback back to the Driver being disqualified in his own Country.

The other side of the story is that if a Diplomat gets disqualified in his own Country then he could in theory get a brand new clean licence in another country which would enable him to drive anywhere.

My bet is these guys are using this loophole for this purpose, (i.e., with the right documents).
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Jimbob on 20 February 2008, 08:07:25
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that explains some of the pricks diving around our area ie wrexham with about 5000 poles etc
no legit licence ins or mot
when stopped pretend not to speak english
old bill can't be arsed
on yer way

Tell me about it, I'm just round the corner....
Had a pole driving a bus clip my (old) car.
Caused no damage that didnt polish out, but he too claimed not to understand!
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Jay w on 20 February 2008, 09:12:36
(http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/expressive/soapbox.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com) no no no no, this is fundimentally wrong and it makes a mokery of the current driving licence and test system.

this needs to be clamped down, how long will it be before this becomes common knowledge and we end up with a load of substandard drivers terrorising the road and causing carnage.

This website are almost encouraging people to apply for licenses if they are close to a ban, they have got their points because they have broken the law TAKE THE PUNISMENT LIKE A MAN if you have been caught speeding and have points then that is an encouragement for you to slowdown and behave.

On another point where would you stand with insurance, am i right in thinking that when you apply for a licence they ask if it is a full UK licence, knowing the scrotes who would apply for these licences i bet they would answer yes to this, this then means that they are not insured..........the consiquences and scenarios dont bear thinking about

rant over, soap box packed away (http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/expressive/soapbox.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com)


Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 February 2008, 09:42:25
Pity that DOS is illegal sometimes :-?
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Jay w on 20 February 2008, 10:19:06
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Pity that DOS is illegal sometimes :-?

eh??
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Jay w on 20 February 2008, 11:30:47
sent to watchdog
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 February 2008, 13:02:19
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Pity that DOS is illegal sometimes :-?

eh??


Denial Of Service - bring down a web site
Title: Re: I can't believe this
Post by: Jay w on 20 February 2008, 13:22:34
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Pity that DOS is illegal sometimes :-?

eh??


Denial Of Service - bring down a web site

aha, i see now, thanks for that  :y