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Title: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: alfie on 21 November 2010, 12:36:49
Attempting to improve the lights,what is the little galv levers inside the casing for,and should they be up or down.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Entwood on 21 November 2010, 13:07:24
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Attempting to improve the lights,what is the little galv levers inside the casing for,and should they be up or down.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf

Page 121 ..  :)

Changes lights between.   \_ \_  Assymetric  and _ _  _ _   Symetric ..

HTH
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: alfie on 21 November 2010, 14:40:48
Thanks Endwood,check them tomorrow.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Andy B on 21 November 2010, 18:06:58
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Thanks Endwood,check them tomorrow.

it'll be easier to check them when it's dark against a wall/garage door, you can see the  beam pattern better.  :y
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: alfie on 24 November 2010, 21:34:23
Bad news I'm afraid,the lamps are after market replacements DEFO they don't have these adjusters,as well as being bloodly useless crap anyhow.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: vauxfan2k on 24 November 2010, 21:52:34
if the lamps are DEPO ones they are nowhere near as good as the gen vaux ones, and no the DEPO ones I had didnt have the adjuster either.

Swapped for a set of considerably dearer new vaux ones.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 24 November 2010, 22:08:32
How much do decent second hand headlamps go for these days?

And thanks for the headsup, thought the DEPOs looked alright, now i know they arent!
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Post by: vauxfan2k on 24 November 2010, 22:10:22
the last 2 sets of projectors i had i sold for £30 per pair, maybe thats why they sold instantly  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 November 2010, 01:20:08
£40 each, old stock from a dealer in Bromley. And they were xenon. 8-)
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: alfie on 25 November 2010, 08:41:29
Lucky that I kept the old ones,they can go back on for now.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 25 November 2010, 09:20:36
how is the adjustment made on these headlamps?? on the lowest position they still aim pretty high :(
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Andy B on 25 November 2010, 09:24:42
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how is the adjustment made on these headlamps?? on the lowest position they still aim pretty high :(

we could do with this picture posting everyday on a loop .........  :-/

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Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 25 November 2010, 09:31:36
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how is the adjustment made on these headlamps?? on the lowest position they still aim pretty high :(

we could do with this picture posting everyday on a loop .........  :-/


 :D :D :D tx andy
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Andy B on 25 November 2010, 09:39:58
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how is the adjustment made on these headlamps?? on the lowest position they still aim pretty high :(

we could do with this picture posting everyday on a loop .........  :-/


 :D :D :D tx andy

you do need to turn each of quite a few times to make a noticable difference to the aim. One is up/down and the other is left/right H21 said which was which the other day on a similar thread.  ;)
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: mrjimbo on 25 November 2010, 09:50:57
The one nearest to the wing is Up/Down, anti-clockwise for up and clockwise for down

The one nearest the centre of car is Left/Right, drivers side anti-clockwise to move beam towards passenger side and passenger side anti-clockwise to move beam towards centre of road.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 02 December 2010, 15:23:39
i tryed to adjust mine but nothing happens, at least for up and hown because left or right i didn't try. i turned  the screrw clockwise and anticlockwise but the headlights won't moove neither up or down :(. what can be wrong? they aim pretty high and i wanted them to be lowered
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: feeutfo on 02 December 2010, 17:57:08
Is the internal reflector flapping around? Broken internal adjuster if so I believe. Jimbob will confirm.

But Depo DO have a \__. Or  ____ beam adjuster! But iirc it's behind the other bulb cover, but it's there somewhere. If you have hid Depo it's behind the hid cover, which is a bit "dim" admittedly, but otherwise I thought these units give a good beam on the road  :-/ maybe it was the bulbs fitted, nightbrakers perhaps? on my old cdx. 
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 02 December 2010, 18:05:17
its not flaping but its not stiff :(. i mean i can move it from behind with no effort, and  when i hit some bumbs the light trembles a bit. i have hid if that counts
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Andy B on 02 December 2010, 21:26:51
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its not flaping but its not stiff :(. i mean i can move it from behind with no effort, and  when i hit some bumbs the light trembles a bit. i have hid if that counts

If you can move the reflector by hand, then I would say your adjusters are broken. Have you read the guide for fitting the ally adjusters?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1271424451
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: feeutfo on 02 December 2010, 22:07:22
Other possibility is the Alan key adjuster is not engaging the nylon toothed wheel at the back of the light. Plus it does take a lot of turns for very little movement.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 03 December 2010, 06:19:04
Andy those adjusters are not for me to change.. its too complicated and i don't know what is best to reseal the headlight because i don't have here the products you have there.

chris what nylon toothed wheel?? is that suposed to be turning or not?
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: mrjimbo on 03 December 2010, 09:08:15
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Andy those adjusters are not for me to change.. its too complicated and i don't know what is best to reseal the headlight because i don't have here the products you have there.

chris what nylon toothed wheel?? is that suposed to be turning or not?

The sealer that is between the body of the light and the lens is OK to reuse, just heat the light unit in the oven to seperate the two parts and leave the sealer as it comes away. To reassemble press the two halfs together, warming the assembly in the oven again helps to reseal it. You won't need anymore sealer.

Where the adjuster goes through the top fixing on the headlight boby it goes into a white gear wheel which reduces the roatation of the adjuster making it quite low geared, you have to turn the adjuster screw approximately 8 time to get the internal adjuster screw to turn once and the internal adjuster screw has a fine thread so it takes quite a few turns of the adjuster to actually get the beam to move up or down. The same applies to the left/right adjuster.

Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 03 December 2010, 09:23:48
can you please post a pic with that nylon wheel? how will i klnow if that is broken?
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: mrjimbo on 03 December 2010, 10:04:45
I don't have a picture of the white nylon wheel but they rarely fail. If your headlight internals are moving then the problem lies inside the headlight and is unlikely to be anything repairable from the outside.

As a matter of interest, how much movement do you have. Remove the rubber cup on the back of the headlight and measure how much the reflector moves up and down and side to side.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 03 December 2010, 10:44:11
thank you for the info.. i will probably have to open them up :(
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: fiend61 on 03 December 2010, 10:49:27
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just heat the light unit in the oven to seperate the two parts
how long and what degree c  does the recipe call for for  ;D is it in jamie olivers book?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: mrjimbo on 03 December 2010, 11:08:58
Empty the oven and pre-heat it to 100-120 deg and turn off.
Put the light unit in the oven for 5-10minutes, this is usually enought to soften the sealer to the consistancy of soft chewing gum.

You may need to put the light unit back in the oven to re-warm it to get the lens off completely, but they do come off quite easily usually.

Follow the link below and you can't go wrong, just don't be tempted to heat the oven any hotter than 120deg or leave the oven on when the light unit is in there, and you must strip the ballast box and bulbs etc before putting the light unit in the oven   :y

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1271424451
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Andy B on 03 December 2010, 11:39:23
I wouldn't use the oven, it's just an accident waiting to happen, I removed mine without the use of it, by all means allow it to warm up in the house before you attack it with your Stanley knife.  ;) Gently ease the lens aways as you cut through the black 'glue' and it'll eventually come off.
As said, there will be enough goo remaining on either side for it to reseal itself when you clip it back on after you've fixed the insides.  :y
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: I am a Daisy on 03 December 2010, 12:13:04
As a newb, I've just done this for the first time and I was very wary of the oven method, but still went ahead and did it, devil that I am, lol! If anything is about to go wrong, then it usually is with me it goes wrong lol! Put the stripped doen headlight in the oven for 15 mins at 100C and it came apart easily. When the lens first separates from the body dont pull it apart too far, as Andy B stated, run round the edge of the lens with a stanley blade to break apart the goop so it doesnt droop onto the headlight inner reflector parts. Just waiting for ally adjusters to arrive to put it all back together, very easy job to do, well taking it apart was, maybe thats an omen lol and the blank up will appear in the rebuild process lol! Wish me luck, dears! As a side note, I think what probably puts most is probably the thought of heating the unit, after 15 mins in the oven, the unit could be handled with bare hands and was still firm to the touch (fnurr) and no deformation, well, apart from me lol!
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 03 December 2010, 12:42:01
i don't understand why you british bother with adjusters.. you can find at breakers with 30pounds the entire headlight.. why buy a 15quid adjuster? here in Romania i don't have where to get them, and if i order from uk both adjusters with shipping i get almost 50 pounds :(. does anyone by any chance have a blueprint of the adjuster?? i can try make one at a local moulding shop :)
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Jimbob on 03 December 2010, 13:25:23
in experience here...the adjusters are always broken, or so brittle they break in the post / on fitting.

Get these, and job done for life.

ive broken one in the past just pushing a new sidelight bulb in!  So fragile  >:(
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: feeutfo on 04 December 2010, 16:30:43
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Andy those adjusters are not for me to change.. its too complicated and i don't know what is best to reseal the headlight because i don't have here the products you have there.

chris what nylon toothed wheel?? is that suposed to be turning or not?
Yes. Turn the Alan key in the adjuster on top of the headlight, which turns the nylon wheel on the back of the headlight which turns the internal adjuster inside the light, or whatever goes on inside the light, I've never been in there.

You may need to help the nylon wheel turn with one hand as you turn the adjuster with the other. I have a ratchet screw driver with alan key bit that makes the job a lot easier. It's a pita with a normal Alan key and takes forever.

Basickly, if the teeth in the nylon wheel at the back of the light have worn away or broken off then the beam will not move anyway.
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: I am a Daisy on 04 December 2010, 23:55:31
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Couple of pics if these help while I have them out
Title: Re: Headlamp adjustment.
Post by: Boditza on 07 December 2010, 06:23:58
so.. any dimensions for the adjusters?? i talked to someone here and i could mould them for 5 quid so i save about 40quid if someone could send me the blueprint of the adjuster :)