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Title: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 09 December 2010, 15:45:06
My Sat Nav Disc keeps ejecting and Display says "Please insert CD Label up" and it is like that it used to do it odd times but these cold mornings its doing it all the time i have heard that they can be troublesome. I am hoping its just cold related because if i hold the disc to the heater outlet it then seems to work as anyone had this problem and can they be repaired
Thanks
Robert
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Weds on 09 December 2010, 16:53:09
Mine does this until the car/radio has warmed up...

Suspect the laser is on its way out...
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: feeutfo on 09 December 2010, 18:20:14
What he said /\

there was a link provided in the ice section for a supplier of new lasers not long ago. Which is a relief as they where previosly unobtainable afaik.
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: VXL V6 on 09 December 2010, 19:19:46
Lasertrader is the place to get them. The one I fitted in one of mine has been fine, worth checking with SP32 how his one is going.
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: TheBoy on 09 December 2010, 20:07:22
Using CDRs makes the situation worse (permenently)
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 10 December 2010, 12:46:04
thanks for the replys
i have only ever used original sat nav discs in the unit, as i said as soon as car is warm its ok but it must be a problem with the lazer,
will one of those cd cleaners be ok to run through. I dont want to make it worse if those cleaners are arnt any good.
on investigation on the net it recommends sending to siemens in germany.
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: TheBoy on 10 December 2010, 16:58:46
I suspect a CD cleaner will do far my harm than good.
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: VXL V6 on 10 December 2010, 17:51:24
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thanks for the replys
i have only ever used original sat nav discs in the unit, as i said as soon as car is warm its ok but it must be a problem with the lazer,
will one of those cd cleaners be ok to run through. I dont want to make it worse if those cleaners are arnt any good.
on investigation on the net it recommends sending to siemens in germany.

Who will return it to you (at a cost) with a note saying that the unit is beyond economic repair and charge you for the priviledge of telling you that.

Siemens no longer holds spares for these units.

Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: RobG on 10 December 2010, 18:09:35
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My Sat Nav Disc keeps ejecting and Display says "Please insert CD Label up" and it is like that it used to do it odd times but these cold mornings its doing it all the time i have heard that they can be troublesome. I am hoping its just cold related because if i hold the disc to the heater outlet it then seems to work as anyone had this problem and can they be repairedThanks
Robert
Replaced
http://www.lasertrader.de/english/sg_opticallaserpickup_carindustry_Opel.htm
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Weds on 10 December 2010, 18:19:20
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My Sat Nav Disc keeps ejecting and Display says "Please insert CD Label up" and it is like that it used to do it odd times but these cold mornings its doing it all the time i have heard that they can be troublesome. I am hoping its just cold related because if i hold the disc to the heater outlet it then seems to work as anyone had this problem and can they be repairedThanks
Robert
Replaced
http://www.lasertrader.de/english/sg_opticallaserpickup_carindustry_Opel.htm

That looks good, I suspect they will need setting up afterwards..
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: feeutfo on 10 December 2010, 18:36:05
similar here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1290510941
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: feeutfo on 11 December 2010, 02:23:32
Was going to suggest a group buy, but not sure it's worth it given the minimal savings?
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 11 December 2010, 08:24:14
Thats very good thanks all may order one
But on question for the boffins
is that lazer optical unit for the music side or the navigation side as i would have thought there would be 2 pickups, my unit plays music perfectly its just the navi that keeps spitting the disc out

thanks again
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: mindaz on 11 December 2010, 09:59:25
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My Sat Nav Disc keeps ejecting and Display says "Please insert CD Label up" and it is like that it used to do it odd times but these cold mornings its doing it all the time i have heard that they can be troublesome. I am hoping its just cold related because if i hold the disc to the heater outlet it then seems to work as anyone had this problem and can they be repairedThanks
Robert
Replaced
http://www.lasertrader.de/english/sg_opticallaserpickup_carindustry_Opel.htm

does someone know? these optical lasers siemens made or china  ::), what about quality ?
anyway , it is good solution, thanks for link  :y
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: VXL V6 on 11 December 2010, 10:55:04
They aren't Siemens / OEM but I have one fitted in one of my units and SP_32 has one in his and they have been fine so far. May be woth speaking to SP_32 to check his has been working ok.
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 11 December 2010, 12:28:45
so does the replacement part cure the disc from being thrown out and saying "Insert Cd Label side Up"
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 11 December 2010, 12:31:21
I have never tried a music cd in the sat nav slot i think i ort to give that a try
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 08 February 2011, 15:36:35
I finally got to take out the radio which in itself was a little difficult however i persevered and it came out i sent it on to a firm recommended by a local radio lad they came back to me and said they have a lot of experience with this unit (I hope So) send it to them if its only the Sat Nav does not need to be divorced their words im sure they  meant De-paired.
I did this and got a reply saying that the Lazer had expired again their words and as the lazers cannot be got it would need the full mechanism c/w Pickup cost would be 216.50 + vat and these have to be got from Holland wow says I.
  However they have just emailed me saying unit is being dispatched all is now well with it and working i said how can you tell if its not depaired they said we can get round that and it as 6month warranty. so I await in trepidation.
 Now down to my query with you learned people does the unit just slide back in as the electric contacts on left Ariel on right is there any tips i.e bias on the right or left to engage all the contacts.
thanks
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: humbucker on 08 February 2011, 22:42:52
is that replacement laser component a plug and play item or does it need soldering?
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 09 February 2011, 08:12:40
im not sure on that but would suspect plug in and play as lazer will be calibrated in mechanism
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: SP_3.2 on 09 February 2011, 21:53:57
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Lasertrader is the place to get them. The one I fitted in one of mine has been fine, worth checking with SP32 how his one is going.


 :y :y Working as goods as gold
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 10 February 2011, 15:24:51
when reinserting radio into car is it a straight slide in or is there anything to watch out for
thanks
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: TheBoy on 10 February 2011, 19:26:56
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when reinserting radio into car is it a straight slide in or is there anything to watch out for
thanks
Ensure the 2 aerial connectors are still straight in the cage :y (dont disturb unless necessary)
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: twiglet on 10 February 2011, 20:11:30
Just been reading this thread with much interest!!  ;D

The single slot in my 2013 seems to be working find, but I'm sure the laser in the changer is on its way! So dare I ask...

Which one is this wonderful new replacement laser from Germany for??  :-/
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 11 February 2011, 23:06:45
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im not sure on that but would suspect plug in and play as lazer will be calibrated in mechanism

Sorry to go off topic but this (like most American idiot spellings) annoys the **** out of me.

It's laSer- an acronym:

Light
Amplification by
Stimulated
Emmission of
Radiation

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

*Rant over*
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 12 February 2011, 07:46:02
Well you are a very learned person
I am glad you have informed me of my failings in the spelling department well done.
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Lampynoiseboy on 13 February 2011, 00:50:52
Sorry, just a pet bug of mine.

Glad to have helped  ;)
Title: Re: NCDC 2013 playing up
Post by: Kaycee on 14 February 2011, 14:54:00
Just to say thanks for all the advice ref my NCDC2013 it is now back in the car and working perfectly it as had a new top loading mechanism,and the music player (CD) section cleaned and lubed it now changes discs with a silky sound. And the most important bit is the sat nav is now working correctly
Thanks DaveDnd and TB for your excellent advice
Robert