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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: immortal on 28 March 2011, 16:43:21

Title: No Sound
Post by: immortal on 28 March 2011, 16:43:21
Hi,

Just tried to install my new JVC stereo and taken the old stereo out (double din) and i cant get any sound?

There are three plugs in the iso block , and there are 2 off my stereo , the power one fits the bottom and the other only fits one of the remaining two as the third one is too big so i know they are in the right plugs.

I get no sound at all? Am i missing something simple? Its the Bose system ive got

Matt
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: Dave DND on 28 March 2011, 17:17:30
Unfortunately, you cannot use an aftermarket stereo with the BOSE system - your JVC has detected that you have 2 Ohm speakers instead of the more usual 4 Ohm ones and has shut down instead of going bang.

To go aftermarket, you need to remove the BOSE amp and rewire accordingly, and then replace ALL the speakers with standard 4 Ohm units. The BOSE will not integrate with aftermarket at all.

 :'(
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: immortal on 28 March 2011, 17:34:25
Hi,

Well thats not good news is it lol

Ive just read somewhere you can get a loop back lead or something? Would that just mean i can use the original wiring but i will still need to replace the original speakers?

Matt
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: immortal on 28 March 2011, 17:35:15
Just to add , what size are the speakers? Am i right in thinking there are 1 in each door and 2 in the back shelf?

Matt
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2011, 19:37:55
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Hi,

Well thats not good news is it lol

Ive just read somewhere you can get a loop back lead or something? Would that just mean i can use the original wiring but i will still need to replace the original speakers?

Matt
Correct - the CD Changer loom from a prefacelift GLS, CD or CDX. Plugs in the facelift Bose loom in drivers kick panel
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: immortal on 28 March 2011, 20:10:02
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Hi,

Well thats not good news is it lol

Ive just read somewhere you can get a loop back lead or something? Would that just mean i can use the original wiring but i will still need to replace the original speakers?

Matt
Correct - the CD Changer loom from a prefacelift GLS, CD or CDX. Plugs in the facelift Bose loom in drivers kick panel


So i buy a prefacelift cd changer loom , plug it into the bose loom in the drivers kick panel and what does that give me?

Matt
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2011, 21:12:06
bypasses the bose amp. Still need to change the speakers in the doors (shelf ones will be disconnected)
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: immortal on 03 April 2011, 10:02:34
Hi,

Could i not replace the amp in the back with a newer amp that does 4 and 2ohm and then plug that into my stereo via preouts. Would it then be the case of the stereo would output 4ohm and then be converted into 2ohm in the amp therefore sound will work then?

Matt
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: Dave DND on 03 April 2011, 10:53:16
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Hi,

Could i not replace the amp in the back with a newer amp that does 4 and 2ohm and then plug that into my stereo via preouts. Would it then be the case of the stereo would output 4ohm and then be converted into 2ohm in the amp therefore sound will work then?

Matt

Theoretically yes, however, trying to find an aftermarket amp that will give a low enough power at 2 Ohms is going to be very tricky.

Most amps reduce down to 2 Ohms for extra power (usually at the loss of sound quality) to drive great big speakers. The BOSE ones in the doors are paobably no more than around 60W max@ 2 Ohms - and there lies the problem with your theory.
Title: Re: No Sound
Post by: Brikhead on 03 April 2011, 11:40:56
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Just to add , what size are the speakers? Am i right in thinking there are 1 in each door and 2 in the back shelf?

Matt

Fronts are 165mm, rears are 130mm, and the shelf speakers are the same size as the fronts.

If you are looking to fit after market speakers then you may find they are too deep to fit in the doors without using spacers.
If you want a good sounding set of Vx. speakers then find a Vectra in your local scrap yard and use it's speakers...