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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Ratty on 04 August 2009, 20:22:10
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Hi,
I tried to change my CCRT700 for a Sony MEX-1GP head unit, I have an adapter to allow use of the steering wheel controls and display, (a Connects2 DOPS004)
the trouble I'm having is marrying up the DOPS004 to the Omega's Harness.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/ratsalad/Public/coneections-001.jpg)
The car connector
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/ratsalad/Public/DOPS004.jpg)
The DOPS004 connector
As you can see the connectors are different, anybody know how I can marry them up? an adapter maybe?
Thanks
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You should be able to split the adapters longer plug off the clump and plug it in seperately
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Er . . . .
. . . . . Wrong lead ::)
Just a thought though, and I may be mistaken on this, but I didn`t think the DOPS004 was compatable with the CCRT700 display ?
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If I am wrong, then ask your supplier for the correct lead with Mini ISO terminals on it.
:y
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you're correct in that it isn't listed as being compatible with the CCRT700 but I'm removing that from the equation and going back to the main harness, and want to connect the DOPS004 to that.
@welung666:
I did think of that but the locating lug/catch is physically in the wrong place.
I used to have a sony unit in my old Miggy a '95 CDX and I had that working but for the life of me I can't remember how :(
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you're correct in that it isn't listed as being compatible with the CCRT700 but I'm removing that from the equation and going back to the main harness, and want to connect the DOPS004 to that.
@welung666:
I did think of that but the locating lug/catch is physically in the wrong place.
I used to have a sony unit in my old Miggy a '95 CDX and I had that working but for the life of me I can't remember how :(
All the prefacelift omegas used a std (ish) iso 26 way connector apart from ccrt700 equipped cars that use iso 36 way connector. Facelifts use 36 way ISO
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All the prefacelift omegas used a std (ish) iso 26 way connector apart from ccrt700 equipped cars that use iso 36 way connector. Facelifts use 36 way ISO
So If I get a 36 pin ISO adapter to go with the DOPS004 it would work? Ive seen one but it lists it for a double DIN system, so wasn't sure if it would work on mine.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-ISO-HARNESS-ADAPTER-CONNECTS2-CT20VX02_W0QQitemZ110410295815QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Terminals_Cabling_ET?hash=item19b4f76a07&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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You'd need to check wiring diagrams to see if the steering wheel connectors are in same place between ccrt and facelifts. I guess its only steering wheel controls that you will use the top block for
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Steering controls are on the lower 8 pin power part of the ISO block, and the three connections at the top are the data lines for the display.
But the reason that I have a doubt, is that the CCRT uses a completely different protocol language for the display, and to the best of my knowledge its far more involved than simply swapping a few wires around.
A CCRT700 does NOT use the same standard configured 36 pin Mini ISO block as used by the rest of the Vx Double DIN range, and the block advertised is for lower spec head units, CDR2005 / CCR2006 etc - CCRT700 does not have a solution available for doing what you are trying to do - you may need to downgrade the display itself
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What excatly are you trying to do?Just get the radio working or the radio info on the display is important to you also?
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Won't there be a Bose compatabilty problem too ..... ? :-/ :-/ :-/
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Won't there be a Bose compatabilty problem too ..... ? :-/ :-/ :-/
Oopps! Didn`t think of that one -
Sony would not be very forgiving at all if connected to a BOSE car
:'(
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What excatly are you trying to do?Just get the radio working or the radio info on the display is important to you also?
Original post suggested both - :-?
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I would ultimately like to have the display and steering wheel controls working with the Sony, but it's not the be all and end all, if I can't get them working or at least the display part not working then I can live with it, tbh the steering wheel controls are more important to me. typical Vauxhall eh? ;)
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I would ultimately like to have the display and steering wheel controls working ...... , ..... tbh the steering wheel controls are more important to me. typical Vauxhall eh? ;)
Put your CCRT700 back in then! ;) ;) ;) ;)
:y
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Forgive my ignorance here but what's the problem with Bose?
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I would ultimately like to have the display and steering wheel controls working ...... , ..... tbh the steering wheel controls are more important to me. typical Vauxhall eh? ;)
Put your CCRT700 back in then! ;) ;) ;) ;)
:y
it is back in for the time being, but most of my music is mp3 and as the changer doesn't read CDR discs and the unit itself only plays radio or cassette it's not much use to me.
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Unlike a conventional 4 Ohm system, the Omega BOSE system uses an amplifier with non standard level inputs giving little or no full control over the volume, and the speakers are also 2 Ohm, meaning that if your stereo was connected directly to them after bypassing the amp it would either shut down or more likely go bang.
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Forgive my ignorance here but what's the problem with Bose?
Bose head units output a low level signal on the "speaker" part of the ISO connector, so if a standard head unit is connected it will overdrive the Bose amplifier.
Kevin
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ahhh so that means even if i did find a way of getting the Sony wired in it still wouldn't work?
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ahhh so that means even if i did find a way of getting the Sony wired in it still wouldn't work?
Well, you'd need to adapt the speaker outputs to drive the Bose amp. Not sure if you can buy an off-the-shelf lead to accomplish this. In theory it's not that difficult...
Other option would be to remove the Bose system and replace with an atermarket amp and speakers but because Bose uses non-standard 2 ohm speakers you really would need to replace the whole shooting match. :'(
Kevin
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I'm beginning to regret buying this Miggy :(
okay, so the CCRT700 has got to stay (or is there an alternative HU that will play MP3s?) is there an mp3/CDR compatible CD changer out there that will work with this system?
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Where is the Bose amp on a '99 estate?
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bose amp on estate is in drivers side cubby hole in boot.
The ccrt display is unique, I have never seen an adapter work with it (or any of the semi-can based ones).
The CDC2 fitted to ccrt700 is more resilient against failure from CDRs (use top quality blanks, not the 10p shite, and burn at slow speed) than some other changers. (TheBoy now waits for Dave DND to shoot him down ::))
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ahhh so that means even if i did find a way of getting the Sony wired in it still wouldn't work?
Well, you'd need to adapt the speaker outputs to drive the Bose amp. Not sure if you can buy an off-the-shelf lead to accomplish this. In theory it's not that difficult...
Other option would be to remove the Bose system and replace with an atermarket amp and speakers but because Bose uses non-standard 2 ohm speakers you really would need to replace the whole shooting match. :'(
Kevin
In theory it could be done. However, thre are NO aftermarket adaptors to allow this that are commercially available, and due to the age of the vehicle now, its unlikely that any ever will be.
The biggest problem in trying to "adapt" something from the aftermarket units is the volume control itself on the head unit. If you have a volume control that "clicks" as it is rotated, or buttons that go up and down, then the volume will vary in predetermined steps, and these steps are too large for the BOSE amp to cope with - the result is that the volume is either all or nothing. Older stereos had a smooth rotary volume control in the form of a good old fasioned potentiometer, and whilst these gave good control at low volumes, if you turned the volume up too much it owould overdrive the BOSE amp and the whole thing would go bang again.
Options are:
If you want to retain the BOSE system, then the only option is an FM modulator, not the chinese ones, but a proper one. (I am currently evaluating one that also displays track info as well through any radio with an RDS display)
Or, if you want to go down the aftermarket route, then everything that is to do with BOSE will have to be replaced, none of it is compatable with the aftermarket units - and that includes the amp, the speakers and a fair bit of rewiring. Again, its all or nothing, but in my opinion, well worth the effort.
;)
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hmm, you know, I don't think my system is a Bose one, I have thoroughly searched both cubby holes - left and right - and there's nothing there, however in the drivers side cubby hole there is a small-ish connector along with what looks like an aerial connector, but no amp, and from what i've read here and on VxON shouldn't there be a sub in the back somewhere with the bose system?
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(TheBoy now waits for Dave DND to shoot him down ::)
;D
OK, if you insist . . . . Taking Aim . . . :P
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hmm, you know, I don't think my system is a Bose one, I have thoroughly searched both cubby holes - left and right - and there's nothing there, however in the drivers side cubby hole there is a small-ish connector along with what looks like an aerial connector, but no amp, and from what i've read here and on VxON shouldn't there be a sub in the back somewhere with the bose system?
There is a fair chance its not BOSE, and if you can`t find teh amp or subs, the display doesn`t say BOSE when switched on, and there isn`t a BOSE label on the head unit, then you may be ok.
If thats the case, try connecting up the two 8 pin parts of the ISO block to your adaptor - ignoring the top block, as thats never going to work the display anyway there is a 75% chance that the steering controls may work. I would carefully seperate the top Mini ISO block from the car loom with a sharp knife.
:-/
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hmm, you know, I don't think my system is a Bose one, I have thoroughly searched both cubby holes - left and right - and there's nothing there, however in the drivers side cubby hole there is a small-ish connector along with what looks like an aerial connector, but no amp, and from what i've read here and on VxON shouldn't there be a sub in the back somewhere with the bose system?
It may not have bose. Only Elites had it. CDX may have come with non bose variant of ccrt700
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The CDC2 fitted to ccrt700 is more resilient against failure from CDRs (use top quality blanks, not the 10p shite, and burn at slow speed) than some other changers. (TheBoy now waits for Dave DND to shoot him down )
Still aiming . . . And I`ll let you off with that one. :o
You would be forgiven for thinking that, but its actually the same laser and mech inside - the only difference on CDC2 is the main PCB that changes the protocol between variants.
However, what has probably made you think this is that the CCRT700 was an exceptionally expensive upgrade in its day, and as a result the units tend to have had a much easier life, and are not yet as knackered as the rest of them. The better condition the laser is in, the more chance it has of reading the CDR`s, however, its demise is still just as rapid with continue use.
;)
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could I be that lucky? I'll go and try later when the big guy in the sky stops peeing on me ::) :P
cheers for the help fellas :y :)
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could I be that lucky? I'll go and try later when the big guy in the sky stops peeing on me ::) :P
cheers for the help fellas :y :)
Good Luck & Make sure to post your results
:y
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The CDC2 fitted to ccrt700 is more resilient against failure from CDRs (use top quality blanks, not the 10p shite, and burn at slow speed) than some other changers. (TheBoy now waits for Dave DND to shoot him down )
Still aiming . . . And I`ll let you off with that one. :o
You would be forgiven for thinking that, but its actually the same laser and mech inside - the only difference on CDC2 is the main PCB that changes the protocol between variants.
However, what has probably made you think this is that the CCRT700 was an exceptionally expensive upgrade in its day, and as a result the units tend to have had a much easier life, and are not yet as knackered as the rest of them. The better condition the laser is in, the more chance it has of reading the CDR`s, however, its demise is still just as rapid with continue use.
;)
Surely the laser setup is the same in all CDC2s (with the control board varying (either in hardware/firmware) to suit different applications?
We know the CDC3 (be it part of CCR2006/NCDC201x/CCRT2008 or standalone for ccr600/800 and ccrt700) is prone to laser failure.
Certainly, in my limited experience, the cdc2 seems to be more robust than the cdc3 after a dog load of cheap, nasty cdrs have been thrown through it.
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The CDC2 fitted to ccrt700 is more resilient against failure from CDRs (use top quality blanks, not the 10p shite, and burn at slow speed) than some other changers. (TheBoy now waits for Dave DND to shoot him down )
Still aiming . . . And I`ll let you off with that one. :o
You would be forgiven for thinking that, but its actually the same laser and mech inside - the only difference on CDC2 is the main PCB that changes the protocol between variants.
However, what has probably made you think this is that the CCRT700 was an exceptionally expensive upgrade in its day, and as a result the units tend to have had a much easier life, and are not yet as knackered as the rest of them. The better condition the laser is in, the more chance it has of reading the CDR`s, however, its demise is still just as rapid with continue use.
;)
Surely the laser setup is the same in all CDC2s (with the control board varying (either in hardware/firmware) to suit different applications?
We know the CDC3 (be it part of CCR2006/NCDC201x/CCRT2008 or standalone for ccr600/800 and ccrt700) is prone to laser failure.
Certainly, in my limited experience, the cdc2 seems to be more robust than the cdc3 after a dog load of cheap, nasty cdrs have been thrown through it.
Sorry, I thought you were comparing CDC2 connected to CCRT700 against CDC2 connected to other head units and not against the CDC3
CDC2 is actually a Sony chassis (still like em now TB?) and is certainly more resiliant than the CDC3 which is a Philips chassis which seems to fail quickly even with correct media !
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The CDC2 fitted to ccrt700 is more resilient against failure from CDRs (use top quality blanks, not the 10p shite, and burn at slow speed) than some other changers. (TheBoy now waits for Dave DND to shoot him down )
Still aiming . . . And I`ll let you off with that one. :o
You would be forgiven for thinking that, but its actually the same laser and mech inside - the only difference on CDC2 is the main PCB that changes the protocol between variants.
However, what has probably made you think this is that the CCRT700 was an exceptionally expensive upgrade in its day, and as a result the units tend to have had a much easier life, and are not yet as knackered as the rest of them. The better condition the laser is in, the more chance it has of reading the CDR`s, however, its demise is still just as rapid with continue use.
;)
Surely the laser setup is the same in all CDC2s (with the control board varying (either in hardware/firmware) to suit different applications?
We know the CDC3 (be it part of CCR2006/NCDC201x/CCRT2008 or standalone for ccr600/800 and ccrt700) is prone to laser failure.
Certainly, in my limited experience, the cdc2 seems to be more robust than the cdc3 after a dog load of cheap, nasty cdrs have been thrown through it.
Sorry, I thought you were comparing CDC2 connected to CCRT700 against CDC2 connected to other head units and not against the CDC3
CDC2 is actually a Sony chassis (still like em now TB?) and is certainly more resiliant than the CDC3 which is a Philips chassis which seems to fail quickly even with correct media !
Nah, Sony still suck. And Sony owners are too in touch with their feminine side..... ;)
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Nah, Sony still suck. And Sony owners are too in touch with their feminine side..... ;)
:o :o :o :( :( :o :o
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DOPS 005
Only difference is the lead - used in Facelift cars
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Are you saying the DOPS005 would do the job Martin?
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DOPS 005
Only difference is the lead - used in Facelift cars
No, I disagree. Whilst the DOPS005 would be the norm for a standard 36pin Mini ISO setup, it will still not function with the CCRT700 display. The remaining lower sections of ISO block remain the same, so still better off hacking the plug to fit.
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Update: got a local installer to have a look and fit this for me (the wiring went right over my head :-[ ) he managed to get it in and powered up but as has been said on here he couldn't get the display working which confused him as he said he's fitted loads of the Connects2 units in the past and had no problem, he says he needs to know the pin-outs for the DOPS004 so he can trace the lines, does anybody know this info? I fired off an email to Connects2 but as yet I've had no reply.
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There are only so many times this can be said.
The CCRT700 display is configured differently to any other Vauxhall display and you WILL NOT get the display to work with the adaptor. Its not a case of swapping wires, the commincation protocol (language) is different.
yes, your installer has probably fitted thousands of these in the past, but with the different display fitted.
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:( sorry, didn't mean to come across like a broken record, I know you've said it before but he seemed to think it should work, so I just asked again to be certain...
sorry :-[
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If I am right, and the installer knew roughly what he was doing, the DOPS004 should have given you steering controls at least?
If so, thats as good as it gets with your setup I`m afraid.
If not, get rid of the DOPS004 and give me a yell, I have a box here that will work for you.
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yep the steering controls are working...
now, you've got me interested in this box you've got, tell me more :D
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It was the Autoleads PC99-X44 which is the steering control adaptor that works with the Omega.
Didn`t have the extra Mini ISO pins on the top, just teh bottom two ISO sockets, making it plug and play. And as it doesn`t do the display, it is probably cheaper too.
However, you now have steering controls and an upgraded sound system
:y
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Nah, Sony still suck. And Sony owners are too in touch with their feminine side..... ;)
:o :o :o :( :( :o :o
And remember if you ever meet TB in public, don`t for gods sake ever say the word SONY to him - I don`t know what they did to him, but its definately a sore point
;D ;D
A bit like saying BOSE to me I suppose ::) :P
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actually i was think of getting a Sony logo emblazoned on the bonnet then go and see if he'll tech2 my motor ;)
*waits for the fall out to disperse*
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actually i was think of getting a Sony logo emblazoned on the bonnet then go and see if he'll tech2 my motor ;)
*waits for the fall out to disperse*
I can tell you what'll happen. He'll tell you he needs to adjust the fit of your bonnet and go off into his shed looking for a tool called a "Sammy". (also excellent for "adjusting" printer drivers, apparently) .
He probably won't find it, but I'd make my excuses and leave just in case. :y
Kevin
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actually i was think of getting a Sony logo emblazoned on the bonnet then go and see if he'll tech2 my motor ;)
*waits for the fall out to disperse*
;D ;D
If you are serious, I`ll gladly pay for the logo, and come along for a laugh !!
;D ;D
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hehehe, do you think he'd notice if I stamped Alpine all over the car and pretended i didn't have a sony?
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No, it has to be Sony,
but a nice touch would be if it were printed in pink
just to show off the feminine side ;D
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actually i was think of getting a Sony logo emblazoned on the bonnet then go and see if he'll tech2 my motor ;)
*waits for the fall out to disperse*
I can tell you what'll happen. He'll tell you he needs to adjust the fit of your bonnet and go off into his shed looking for a tool called a "Sammy". (also excellent for "adjusting" printer drivers, apparently) .
He probably won't find it, but I'd make my excuses and leave just in case. :y
Kevin
Sammy disappeared shortly after performing a minor adjustment to a DLT computer tape backup unit.
Percy Pickaxe is a suitable replacement imho....
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hehehe, do you think he'd notice if I stamped Alpine all over the car and pretended i didn't have a sony?
Those really annoying, gay, 12 bleeps every time you turn the tinker off would give the game away...
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yeah those beeps are a tad annoying but i treat it the same as my ex-wife... ignore it :)
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And why the hell do they need to bleep? What is the gain? I know chavs probably think its really cool, but anyone who knows how to wear a baseball cap will soon grow tired of it....
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
Nobody is ever going to bother to nick that. So my questions remain....
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hehehe, do you think he'd notice if I stamped Alpine all over the car and pretended i didn't have a sony?
Those really annoying, gay, 12 bleeps every time you turn the tinker off would give the game away...
TB - I can`t beleive you sat and counted the number of bleeps
:-X
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
Except that they also put the Bleeps on the active black panel units - and the fascia`s are not removeable - work that one out ?
:-?
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
Nobody is ever going to bother to nick that. So my questions remain....
don't believe it mate, round here if it aint nailed down it gets nicked and if it is nailed down they nick the nails too.
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
Except that they also put the Bleeps on the active black panel units - and the fascia`s are not removeable - work that one out ?
:-?
Okay, that's my idea blown out of the water
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hehehe, do you think he'd notice if I stamped Alpine all over the car and pretended i didn't have a sony?
Those really annoying, gay, 12 bleeps every time you turn the tinker off would give the game away...
TB - I can`t beleive you sat and counted the number of bleeps
:-X
When I'm tech2ing, its common to have to turn ign on and off several times, particularly for key programming. So, yes, those 12 bleeps are ingrained >:(. Sony junk >:(.
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
Nobody is ever going to bother to nick that. So my questions remain....
don't believe it mate, round here if it aint nailed down it gets nicked and if it is nailed down they nick the nails too.
So they'd have the radio even without a facia in that case ;)
As Dave DND has inferred, its just Sony trying to attract the chav market
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those bleeps really are annoying, my pioneer has them user selectable....
warning or not.
biggest problem for me, was kids asleep in car, stop, beep beep beep....kids rudely awakend >:(
I think they aleinate a lot of people with that, shame was a nice little unit, did all i needed, those bleeps mean I will never consider another sony till they are gone.
TB.....just tell the mid it has no stereo, will turn off the steering wheel controls :y should be well away before he notices ;D ;D ;D
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I've always understood it to be a reminder to take the facia off for security, i could be wrong though, I generally am.
Nobody is ever going to bother to nick that. So my questions remain....
don't believe it mate, round here if it aint nailed down it gets nicked and if it is nailed down they nick the nails too.
So they'd have the radio even without a facia in that case ;)
As Dave DND has inferred, its just Sony trying to attract the chav market
No, the Burberry Bleep sounded very different
::)
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Just out of curiosity what's the head unit of choice these days, within the the reach of mere mortals budgets of course.
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Ooh! Tough One !
Virtually all manufacturers have now gone to asia for production and removed quality, features and ease of use in favour of cheapness.
Clarion is still my personal favourite (always has been), Alpine a distant second (for its performance though, cant stand the looks and functionality). If you had asked me 10 years ago, Nakamichi would also have been up there, but their stuff is dreadfully unreliable these days. For the OEM look, Becker always perform well and are very underrated - never really made it big in UK due to their prices.
Mainstream stuff for the Chav market still remains
Kenwood - Sony - Pioneer - JVC - Blaupunkt
in that order as far as popularity goes, although quite a few purchases of Chinese navs and screen popping up, aways followed by a customer who wished they hadn`t bothered.
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Ooh! Tough One !
Virtually all manufacturers have now gone to asia for production and removed quality, features and ease of use in favour of cheapness.
Clarion is still my personal favourite (always has been), Alpine a distant second (for its performance though, cant stand the looks and functionality). If you had asked me 10 years ago, Nakamichi would also have been up there, but their stuff is dreadfully unreliable these days. For the OEM look, Becker always perform well and are very underrated - never really made it big in UK due to their prices.
Mainstream stuff for the Chav market still remains
Kenwood - Sony - Pioneer - JVC - Blaupunkt
in that order as far as popularity goes, although quite a few purchases of Chinese navs and screen popping up, aways followed by a customer who wished they hadn`t bothered.
Oops! Sorry Rat Salad ! ::) ;D :P
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hehehe, I'm definitely not a chav although I have had Sony units for the last 10 years, sorry TB but I do like them, but then I've never had any decent makes so can't really compare, maybe one day...
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hehehe, I'm definitely not a chav although I have had Sony units for the last 10 years, sorry TB but I do like them, but then I've never had any decent makes so can't really compare, maybe one day...
I don`t mind Sony units - and I even built one of the Sony Demo cars for them many years ago using their famous £1k Components - sounded awesome.
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I bet it did, wish I could have heard it
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hehehe, I'm definitely not a chav although I have had Sony units for the last 10 years, sorry TB but I do like them, but then I've never had any decent makes so can't really compare, maybe one day...
I don`t mind Sony units - and I even built one of the Sony Demo cars for them many years ago using their famous £1k Components - sounded awesome.
Before they sold themselves down the swanny. Now they simply trade on their good name, shovelling shit out to whoever will buy their junk. Not that far removed from BMW then ;D
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Before they sold themselves down the swanny. Now they simply trade on their good name, shovelling shit out to whoever will buy their junk. Not that far removed from BMW then ;D
I don't know. They haven't made a product as pointless as the 1 series Noddy's car yet. :-X
Kevin
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Before they sold themselves down the swanny. Now they simply trade on their good name, shovelling shit out to whoever will buy their junk. Not that far removed from BMW then ;D
I don't know. They haven't made a product as pointless as the 1 series Noddy's car yet. :-X
Kevin
So a BMW 1 Series with BOSE audio powered by a Sony head unit is best avoided then?
;D
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Before they sold themselves down the swanny. Now they simply trade on their good name, shovelling shit out to whoever will buy their junk. Not that far removed from BMW then ;D
I don't know. They haven't made a product as pointless as the 1 series Noddy's car yet. :-X
Kevin
So a BMW 1 Series with BOSE audio powered by a Sony head unit is best avoided then?
;D
any bmw and any sony products are best avoided :-X
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Steering controls are on the lower 8 pin power part of the ISO block, and the three connections at the top are the data lines for the display.
But the reason that I have a doubt, is that the CCRT uses a completely different protocol language for the display, and to the best of my knowledge its far more involved than simply swapping a few wires around.
A CCRT700 does NOT use the same standard configured 36 pin Mini ISO block as used by the rest of the Vx Double DIN range, and the block advertised is for lower spec head units, CDR2005 / CCR2006 etc - CCRT700 does not have a solution available for doing what you are trying to do - you may need to downgrade the display itself
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Hi Dave - picking up on an old post of yours and specifically the highlighted section regarding steering wheel controls. I need to establish the connection between the lower ISO plug 'A' and the two connectors which are part of the SW Ctrls wiring loom. I include a diagram to illustrate what I'm after. In short which cable goes to which between the two connectors and the ISO 'A' plug.
Many thanks in advance if you can help.
Cheers - Brian
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/Budgie590/Omega_SW_Ctrls_Small.jpg)
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Just out of curiosity what's the head unit of choice these days, within the the reach of mere mortals budgets of course.
ive always used Alpine or Kenwood depending on weather i am using additonal amps
Plus they seem to be easier to use but thats just my opinion
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Steering controls are on the lower 8 pin power part of the ISO block, and the three connections at the top are the data lines for the display.
But the reason that I have a doubt, is that the CCRT uses a completely different protocol language for the display, and to the best of my knowledge its far more involved than simply swapping a few wires around.
A CCRT700 does NOT use the same standard configured 36 pin Mini ISO block as used by the rest of the Vx Double DIN range, and the block advertised is for lower spec head units, CDR2005 / CCR2006 etc - CCRT700 does not have a solution available for doing what you are trying to do - you may need to downgrade the display itself
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Hi Dave - picking up on an old post of yours and specifically the highlighted section regarding steering wheel controls. I need to establish the connection between the lower ISO plug 'A' and the two connectors which are part of the SW Ctrls wiring loom. I include a diagram to illustrate what I'm after. In short which cable goes to which between the two connectors and the ISO 'A' plug.
Many thanks in advance if you can help.
Cheers - Brian
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/Budgie590/Omega_SW_Ctrls_Small.jpg)
You mean this?
http://www.dndservices.co.uk/pc99-x06.html
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Steering controls are on the lower 8 pin power part of the ISO block, and the three connections at the top are the data lines for the display.
But the reason that I have a doubt, is that the CCRT uses a completely different protocol language for the display, and to the best of my knowledge its far more involved than simply swapping a few wires around.
A CCRT700 does NOT use the same standard configured 36 pin Mini ISO block as used by the rest of the Vx Double DIN range, and the block advertised is for lower spec head units, CDR2005 / CCR2006 etc - CCRT700 does not have a solution available for doing what you are trying to do - you may need to downgrade the display itself
:-/
Hi Dave - picking up on an old post of yours and specifically the highlighted section regarding steering wheel controls. I need to establish the connection between the lower ISO plug 'A' and the two connectors which are part of the SW Ctrls wiring loom. I include a diagram to illustrate what I'm after. In short which cable goes to which between the two connectors and the ISO 'A' plug.
Many thanks in advance if you can help.
Cheers - Brian
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/Budgie590/Omega_SW_Ctrls_Small.jpg)
You mean this?
http://www.dndservices.co.uk/pc99-x06.html
:y
Dave - many thanks for the prompt response. However it's not an adapter kit that I'm after. The new HU I have fitted has three wires that are supposed to connect to the existing steering wheel control wiring in the Omega. I really just need to figure out which wire connects where. One of the wires is a -ve 'Ground' the other two are marked 'AD1' and 'AD2' and should be connected to the existing controls. That's why I need to understand how the existing controls connect to the 36 way ISO block and to which block/pins. Your original post indicated that the steering wheel controls used the 'lower block' A so just need to know which pin did what.
Cheers Dave
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If you trying to connect a far eastern unbranded import stereo, then forget it - it cannot be done.
They are designed to work only with the switches that are (never) supplied as optional accessories, and do not integrate in any way with any of the steering controls on European cars.
:'(
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Before they sold themselves down the swanny. Now they simply trade on their good name, shovelling shit out to whoever will buy their junk. Not that far removed from BMW then ;D
I don't know. They haven't made a product as pointless as the 1 series Noddy's car yet. :-X
Kevin
So a BMW 1 Series with BOSE audio powered by a Sony head unit is best avoided then?
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But you keep saying that can't be done?
(my turn to run away.....) ;)