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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Phil H. on 06 May 2011, 19:35:53
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hi, got isssues! it started two weeks ago, i thought it was loss of power and rubbing/whining noise. took car in, was told perished seal on one of the vacuum pipes. this was 'fixed' with an o ring. today, however, more probs. at higher revs engine service/fault light comes on and i seem to be stuck in a high gear. also whining/rubbing noise has returned. after parking, turning off and on again the problem goes, but returns as soon as i rev anything past 3500-4000. i've done the pedal trick and it has come up with code 0500-speed sensor b-009 and service reminder 1700 (not surprised by this!) any help and advice wouild be more than welcome!!!
The pipe that was 're-sealed' was on the front of the engine block, underneath the black cover.
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Suspect we need the codes from the gearbox as well...
Also, how did you get code b-009 from pedal trick? Don't reconise that engine code
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The pedal trick showed codes 0500 and 1700. I got them trasnlated to the speed sensor B-009 and service reminder from an oof posting which detailed all codes and their meanings. How would I get the gearbox codes?
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The pedal trick showed codes 0500 and 1700. I got them trasnlated to the speed sensor B-009 and service reminder from an oof posting which detailed all codes and their meanings. How would I get the gearbox codes?
Ah, I see. B-009 is the testing/rectification procedure
Right, you need gearbox codes IMHO - The 0500 is a signal generated (on autos) by TCM (gearbox ECU). The 1700 (SVS from TCM) just means the gearbox has detected a problem, and has told the engine ECU about it (and probably requested less torque to be produced from engine)
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Thanks for that, can I assume that whatever is causing the noise (possible fault on pipe as before?) is being detected and thus the fault codes being generated as an alert or as a failsafe protection ? Any help with finding the gearbox codes ?
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I would be looking at checking ATF level, and seeing if there is a gearbox code relating to the ratios being not what is expected
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Is checking the ATF level easy ? never done it, and too much physical work at the moment tricky - got a bad hernia!
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1700 was the code that concerned me (well... As far as the vendor was concerned ::)) on Thursday. Also had 0120 and 0220 but the battery had been flat :y Plan to clear them all down and then see what happens :y
Oh... And ATF and Filter change are on the list of jobs to be done ;)
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Is checking the ATF level easy ? never done it, and too much physical work at the moment tricky - got a bad hernia!
Not too bad, depending on how you're feeling - involves jacking the car onto an axle stand and undoing a plug under the car. Unless you have access to a pit, in which case it's a doddle.
Guide here:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152783586
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Thanks for that, where do I look to find where to top up (am I being thick??!!)
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Driver's side of the main autobox sump - piccies here:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1289757627
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Thanks a lot for advice on that. Still need to find source of noise, I gotta go out this afternoon, I'll try to identify it later.
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Just got back from short run, enough to get up to temperature though, no noise nor warning light and went through the gears ok but a little notchy(probably only appears when driven harder). it felt a bit sluggish though.
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Just got back from taking kids to school, the noise has returned. not from where I thought, its from much deeper, underneath the engine almost and a definite whirring sound when acceletator pedal is pushed (got missus to press it while i had bonnet open). and nasty acrid smell now present. Any ideas ?
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I had these two codes on when my selector switch played up :y
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I might sound a bit slow now, but which selector switch ? gear selector on auto-box ?
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...... but which selector switch ? gear selector on auto-box ?
yes. :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267956397 :y
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...... but which selector switch ? gear selector on auto-box ?
yes. :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267956397
link edited (semi-colon) ;)
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...... but which selector switch ? gear selector on auto-box ?
yes. :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1267956397
link edited (semi-colon) ;)
Thanks! ;) ;)
I could never even try to emulate the link master ;) ;) ;) :y
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Thank you ! :) looks a bugger to get to! if this is faulty what sort of price for replacement ?
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The smell worries me... ...burnt ATF?
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Not sure, no signs of leaks and it's only done 60,000. Gears aren't slipping, although when on A1 doing "a bit more than speed limit" a week ago it jumped out of sport mode. [smiley=sad.gif]
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Had to take it in today. ATF fried, mesh filter clogged and part of clutch plate busted, bits found in sump :( :( mechanic getting a price now from clutch/gearbox firm in peterborough :( :(
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the bits you found, bits of thrush washer?
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don't know, didn't see for myself, was just described as parts of clutch plate. :( keep seeing 'thrust washer' complaints, sounds quite a common and troublesome issue :(
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going to pick it up now. mechanic has changed gearbox oil (he said it was like water!), cleaned sump and mesh filter out. gearbox specialist quoted 2 grand for recon!! >:( stuff that !! :P he's took it for short run, says no noise nor smell yet. now i've got a big decision to make - trade in, try to get cash for parts then scrap rest or just scrap :'( :'(
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going to pick it up now. mechanic has changed gearbox oil (he said it was like water!), cleaned sump and mesh filter out. gearbox specialist quoted 2 grand for recon!! >:( stuff that !! :P he's took it for short run, says no noise nor smell yet. now i've got a big decision to make - trade in, try to get cash for parts then scrap rest or just scrap :'( :'(
and the bits in the sump were???????????????
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going to pick it up now. mechanic has changed gearbox oil (he said it was like water!), cleaned sump and mesh filter out. gearbox specialist quoted 2 grand for recon!! >:( stuff that !! :P he's took it for short run, says no noise nor smell yet. now i've got a big decision to make - trade in, try to get cash for parts then scrap rest or just scrap :'( :'(
and the bits in the sump were???????????????
Thrust washer, just as TheBoy suggested :(
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Before having fluid/filter done why didn`t you get thrust washer replaced. Seems false economy unless you`re scrapping it or selling it on with that known fault
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Didn't know that was the problem - i'm not very mechanically minded and with the aformentioned hernia i wasn't in the positon to delve into it myself. all i had was the symptoms as described. now in a quandry what to do for the best :-[
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given the thrust washer can damage the box, to the point it needs skimming when replaced....
Id be tempted to fit a 2nd hand box - £50-100 plus labour (and maybe a thrust washer while its off and fluid change, I did when I replaced mine)
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I think i need to consider all possibilities, if to keep car at all and thus fix (2nd hand box sounds a likely route) or to trade in or potentially even break for spares or scrap. many thanks for all interest and advice given :y :y :y
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Given you inability to lift heavy objects, rather than keep getting stung by 'specialists' who, TBH, aren't up to much, why not drive to one of the breakers/mechanics on this site, and get them to fit you a known good 2nd hand gearbox?
The likes of Darth Loo-knee and Elite Pete spring immediately to mind (Lincs is such a big county, I have no idea who is nearest), though there may be others.
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Yours being an AR25, I would say £50 tops for a known good replacement box, another £50 for ATF (may as well change it whilst there), and these guys have good labour rates IME
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Im pretty sure Darth loo-knee had an AR25 for around £50 recently. :y
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Thanks for that, definitely food for thought. Dilemma is, start new job tomorrow and need car for commuting (borrowing mother's citroen c3 short term) can only afford one car at a time and as we all know miggy's aren't exactly the most econimical motors on the planet ;)