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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: twiglet on 05 July 2011, 13:15:20
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Could someone tell me what is involved in converting a mig to HID headlights, and what parts are required please?
I'm sure this has been covered before, in which case maybe someone can post the link, as I'm struggling to find anything of much detail.
TIA :y
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Could someone tell me what is involved in converting a mig to HID headlights, and what parts are required please?
I'm sure this has been covered before, in which case maybe someone can post the link, as I'm struggling to find anything of much detail.
TIA :y
Lights, plug & short bit of loom from HID ballast, washer reservoir with hoses and H/L washer pump, washer jets, relay.
Swap level motors in HID`s for your existing motors (plug & play). Splice the yellow & brown wires from the ballast connector into your existing yellow/brown wires feeding the dip beam. Swap out washer reservoir, drill & fit jets in bumper, fit relay in box by battery, goes at the front adjacent to the small green fuse
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/Headlampwasherrelay.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/hidplug2.jpg)
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z257/belisensis/hidplug1.jpg)
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Or just buy an HID Aftermarket kit like I did.
Kit is simple to fit and takes around 5 mins per side.
6000k is for full white light
8000k gives a light blueish light.
The basic law states they should be totally self-leveling and with head light washers.... BUT mine has now been through 2 MOT's with out a problem.
Its a fully plug and play set-up.
They don't dazzle at all the last picture is like that due to the crap camera :-(
Mine were 8000k type.
Easily found on ebay as HID Kits.. Usually about £130 full.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG308.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG309.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG310.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG311.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG313.jpg)
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Or just buy an HID Aftermarket kit like I did.
Kit is simple to fit and takes around 5 mins per side.
6000k is for full white light
8000k gives a light blueish light.
The basic law states they should be totally self-leveling and with head light washers.... BUT mine has now been through 2 MOT's with out a problem.
Its a fully plug and play set-up.
They don't dazzle at all the last picture is like that due to the crap camera :-(
Mine were 8000k type.
Easily found on ebay as HID Kits.. Usually about £130 full.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG308.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG309.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG310.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG311.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG313.jpg)
................and an MOT failure from Nov of this year
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Or just buy an HID Aftermarket kit like I did.
Kit is simple to fit and takes around 5 mins per side.
6000k is for full white light
8000k gives a light blueish light.
The basic law states they should be totally self-leveling and with head light washers.... BUT mine has now been through 2 MOT's with out a problem.
Its a fully plug and play set-up.
They don't dazzle at all the last picture is like that due to the crap camera :-(
Mine were 8000k type.
Easily found on ebay as HID Kits.. Usually about £130 full.
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG308.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG309.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG310.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG311.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/siwar72/IMG313.jpg)
................and an MOT failure from Nov of this year
Hence only 5 mins to change over and back again ;-)
(Or NOT if you have a very very friendly MOT station :-) )
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Also a fail without headlamp washers. You can probably get away with the manual levelling
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Stolen from another website.
I would be more concerned with all those people who have had their cars remapped :-)
Light source and lamp not compatible Omega Projection lenses are compatable with HID bulbs and DO give the correct light output and pattern.
But as I read it it is only a PROPOSAL at the moment.
Changes on the way, particuarly hid kits and posibly remaps/tuning boxes.
There are to be some proposed changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:
4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
(B) Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
© Light source and lamp not compatible
4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
(B) Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.
4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where fitted)
Device not operating.
For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.
6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
(B) Illegal engine modification.
(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)
There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:
4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
(B) Wiring deteriorated.
© Damaged or deteriorated insulation
and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:
7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
(B) Airbag obviously non-operative.
7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.
Originally Posted by VOSA
The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.
Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.
The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?
In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.
We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.
Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.
Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.
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So, just how do you prove a vehicle has been 'chipped' if, like certain diesel Omega's, you open up the ECU and swop chips?? How can the MOT station know whether a car is chipped or not?
It is possible to spot the HID's on cars that should not have them, by looking for the ballast packs, but, unless the test station can detect somehow when a chip on the ECU has been changed, how can they prove it?? It will be interesting to see how they intend to implement the new directive.
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There is no such thing as an illegal engine mod
As to ECU firmware - no chance what so ever
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Thanks for all the comments guys. :y
My main reason for asking was that I am breaking a car with HID's as standard, and was thinking about putting a kit together for some to do a conversion to HID's. It sounds like a fairly viable option for someone considering this, and I would certainly charge less than the £130 quoted for the ebay aftermarket ones!! :y
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Back on to subject, I am looking to do this conversion but dont have the plugs, any ideas? :y
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Back on to subject, I am looking to do this conversion but dont have the plugs, any ideas? :y
Buy the kit off me! :y
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Back on to subject, I am looking to do this conversion but dont have the plugs, any ideas? :y
Plugs are the same across the range. Breakers :question
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Back on to subject, I am looking to do this conversion but dont have the plugs, any ideas? :y
Buy the kit off me! :y
I would mate, but already got the headlights...
May need a diff from you though :y
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Back on to subject, I am looking to do this conversion but dont have the plugs, any ideas? :y
Buy the kit off me! :y
I would mate, but already got the headlights...
May need a diff from you though :y
Not a problem! :y
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]There is no such thing as an illegal engine mod[/highlight]As to ECU firmware - no chance what so ever
But if the powers that be deem it to be illegal, then it will be illegal. ::)
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]There is no such thing as an illegal engine mod[/highlight]As to ECU firmware - no chance what so ever
But if the powers that be deem it to be illegal, then it will be illegal. ::)
But when things like this are law it is time to change the legal system
Remember anything is allowed unless expressly forbidden.