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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: twiglet on 22 August 2011, 22:17:29

Title: Rear blind not working
Post by: twiglet on 22 August 2011, 22:17:29
Got an elite with a rear blind that doesn't want to play ball...

A click can be heard when the button is pressed, but that's it. No movement from the blind whatsoever.  :-/

Can these be fixed, or is it a non-starter?  :-?
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: TheBoy on 22 August 2011, 22:21:49
Assuming the mechanical side is fine, its usually the motor is knacked.
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2011, 22:24:17
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Can these be fixed, or is it a non-starter?  :-?

take it apart & have a look, the worst possible outcome is that you break a blind that doesn't work ........... on the other hand you might be able to fix it.  ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: twiglet on 22 August 2011, 22:29:53
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Can these be fixed, or is it a non-starter?  :-?

take it apart & have a look, the worst possible outcome is that you break a blind that doesn't work ........... on the other hand you might be able to fix it.  ;) ;) ;)


Oh I definately intend to break it properly!!  ;D Nothing goes in the bin in my house before being broken down to it's component parts!  ::)

Just wondered if anyone had tackled repairing one before? I can't see anything in the maintenance section...  :-/
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 August 2011, 22:40:37
An opportunity to write a guide then! Did you know you get 25p for every view of your guide?  ;D
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: twiglet on 22 August 2011, 22:45:04
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An opportunity to write a guide then! Did you know you get 25p for every view of your guide?  ;D

You want me write a guide on how to break a blind? no problem!!  :D ;D

At 25p a time, I'll have to include some pictures of naked women holding the various parts aloft!! Loadsamoney!!  ;D :y
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2011, 23:00:31
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At 25p a time, I'll have to include some pictures of naked women holding the various parts aloft!! Loadsamoney!!  ;D :y

Have you told asked Mrs Twiglet yet?  ::) ::) Or do you have someone else in mind?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: twiglet on 22 August 2011, 23:09:47
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At 25p a time, I'll have to include some pictures of naked women holding the various parts aloft!! Loadsamoney!!  ;D :y

Have you told asked Mrs Twiglet yet?  ::) ::) Or do you have someone else in mind?  ;D ;D ;D

I'm not sure she'll make much money at the moment Andy, seeing that she's 8 1/2 month pregnant!  :-/

Mind you, there are some strange folk about...  :o :D :-X
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: Andy B on 22 August 2011, 23:16:58
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I'm not sure she'll make much money at the moment Andy, seeing that she's 8 1/2 month pregnant!  :-/

Mind you, there are some strange folk about...  :o :D :-X

Mmmm? Demi Moore made a few quid from it  ::) ::)
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Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: feeutfo on 23 August 2011, 00:04:50
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Can these be fixed, or is it a non-starter?  :-?

take it apart & have a look, the worst possible outcome is that you break a blind that doesn't work ........... on the other hand you might be able to fix it.  ;) ;) ;)


Oh I definately intend to break it properly!!  ;D Nothing goes in the bin in my house before being broken down to it's component parts!  ::)

Just wondered if anyone had tackled repairing one before? I can't see anything in the maintenance section...  :-/
Yep, fixable, but in my case it needed new motor and little gear box thing from another with failed blind arms. Heve you tried pulling the blind up by hand? Guessing usually the runners dry out due to the sun, the motor strains the gear box cogs and either one or the other fails.

Golf club to press the button from the back seat while you help the blind up... Find that doesn't work either then pull the entire rear of the interior out go remove the bugger.

Mine was as yours, motor fixed it, after the spring went ping and buggered the cogs so had to fit the gear box as well. Not a 20 min job.  :-X
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: twiglet on 23 August 2011, 11:16:22
Cheers Chris, I shall give that a go when I get chance. I'll report back.  :y
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: belldarr on 23 August 2011, 20:15:26
I had the same problem on my mini facelift Elite - I sourced a second hand complete blind assembly with the motor etc and then removed the rear shelf - was a bit of a pig to remove without scratching or breaking anything - then removed the old blind assembly from the shelf and then fitted the new one - re-fitted the shelf then pressed the button and "clicK" and no blind - that one was breaked as well !! 

Incidentally - I had a look at the old unit I removed in the hope of fixing it and when I removed the inspection plate I found out that there is a coiled spring in there to assist in moving the arms and once the cover was off I released the tension on this spring with no chance of re-winding the thing back to what it should be.

Darren
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: TheBoy on 23 August 2011, 20:41:27
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I found out that there is a coiled spring in there to assist in moving the arms and once the cover was off I released the tension on this spring with no chance of re-winding the thing back to what it should be.
Ah, gayboy and I know a story about that. It makes a 20min job into a four hour job ;D
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: twiglet on 23 August 2011, 21:59:30
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I found out that there is a coiled spring in there to assist in moving the arms and once the cover was off I released the tension on this spring with no chance of re-winding the thing back to what it should be.
Ah, gayboy and I know a story about that. It makes a 20min job into a four hour job ;D

Sounds like you guys need to do a 'how to' then, before I make a right pigs ear attempt to fix mine!  ::) :-X
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: Entwood on 23 August 2011, 22:05:31
Methinks the rear blind is a tad like the handbrake ... if you don't use it you lose it ....

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I use mine a fair bit, and it was well used in France, seems to me that it actually got smoother after a couple of days !!
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: Shackeng on 23 August 2011, 22:20:31
Memo to Self:

Operate blind.......operate blind.....check Twiglets guide to blind removal...... What have I forgotten?
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: Andy B on 23 August 2011, 22:37:29
mine's up most of the time  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: feeutfo on 23 August 2011, 23:46:54
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I found out that there is a coiled spring in there to assist in moving the arms and once the cover was off I released the tension on this spring with no chance of re-winding the thing back to what it should be.
Ah, gayboy and I know a story about that. It makes a 20min job into a four hour job ;D
Indeed, and very grateful I am for your bits and help. Having had the spring ping loose, we did sus how to fit the new one... Isn't there a screw stop in the back edge to allow the spring to be wound round... Or something like...?


Also, it may be worth checking with the dealer how much the blind without parcel shelf is. My parts man quoted £65 plus. Which I thought sounded too cheap, maybe I miss heard and it was 165? Or not the complete unit, just the fabric maybe... Bit might be worth a phone call to the parts dept. with interior colour info...?
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: feeutfo on 23 August 2011, 23:51:05
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I found out that there is a coiled spring in there to assist in moving the arms and once the cover was off I released the tension on this spring with no chance of re-winding the thing back to what it should be.
Ah, gayboy and I know a story about that. It makes a 20min job into a four hour job ;D
Indeed, and very grateful I am for your bits and help. Having had the spring ping loose, we did sus how to fit the new one... Isn't there a screw stop in the back edge to allow the spring to be wound round... Or something like...?


Also, it may be worth checking with the dealer how much the blind without parcel shelf is. My parts man quoted £65 plus. Which I thought sounded too cheap, maybe I miss heard and it was 165? Or not the complete unit, just the fabric maybe... Bit might be worth a phone call to the parts dept. with interior colour info...?
Although who is this gayboy of which you speak...?
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: djac on 24 August 2011, 15:09:24
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Got an elite with a rear blind that doesn't want to play ball...

A click can be heard when the button is pressed, but that's it. No movement from the blind whatsoever.  :-/

Can these be fixed, or is it a non-starter?  :-?

Had the same thing on mine. Have you tried it with the engine running and revving to about 3000rpm? You may need to press the button several times, waiting a few seconds between each try.

Got the blind on mine to work by doing that, then got some lube into the runner grooves while it was up.

I make sure I operate the blind once or twice a week now, just to keep it going  :y
Title: Re: Rear blind not working
Post by: TheBoy on 24 August 2011, 18:23:37
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Got an elite with a rear blind that doesn't want to play ball...

A click can be heard when the button is pressed, but that's it. No movement from the blind whatsoever.  :-/

Can these be fixed, or is it a non-starter?  :-?

Had the same thing on mine. Have you tried it with the engine running and revving to about 3000rpm? You may need to press the button several times, waiting a few seconds between each try.

Got the blind on mine to work by doing that, then got some lube into the runner grooves while it was up.

I make sure I operate the blind once or twice a week now, just to keep it going  :y
Worried about your battery and alternator - should have a good 13.5v at idle, and 14v by 1500 rpm....