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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 26 February 2008, 22:32:48
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I can't justify running 2 Omega's, I work in London, and get home around 7:30pm most nights.... i have just enough time to maintain 1 Omega, if i keep 2 they will both not get the attention they need.
But like James i am torn between them, in short:
2.2 facelift - much, much smoother ride than the Estate, its more fun when i want to go fast, cause its a manual and i enjoy driving it more, nothing is really wrong with it, had cambelt done 7k ago, new gm zorst and discs with pads recently, new condensor in 2004.. runs fine.
3.0 Estate, goes like stink, HIDs are much better than projectors, i like the bose! The trouble is, when i want to give the drive home a bit of a spanking, i STILL enjoy the 2.2 much more cause its a manual.
I just don't get the satisfcation driving the 3.0, even though it has more power, its dull. Having said that, when i cannot be bothered to drive like i should, the auto is nice!
The estate tends to crash into bumps more, not as refined, although i can take the dog places. But currently i have no heat in it, and the air-con is fubar.
2.2 has done 107k, 3.0 done 186k.
My mind says keep the 2.2.....
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sell em both and buy a low mile manual 3.0 :o
Seriously - it would make more sense to keep the newer one, I cant believe i am suporting a 4 pot over a v6 :-X
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sell em both and buy a low mile manual 3.0 :o
Seriously - it would make more sense to keep the newer one, I cant believe i am suporting a 4 pot over a v6 :-X
Thats actually quite a reasonable idea ... if you can find one .... :)
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Sell them both get a 3.0 manual Elite and a box trailer for the dogs ..............Sorted :y
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by a mondeo ;D
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Cough..... actual "real world" mileage on the estate is somewhat less..... the original Speedo packed in , and it got swapped out for a £15 ebay job , with the intention of getting a new one "one day, when I have time and a spare £150 quid or so" ...... I never worried too much as i had no plans to part with it , I loved the thing... I'm still not really happy i had to either.... despite the new one being a little younger, and slightly nicer.. :y I'd have kept both if i could afford it ! I was tempted to offer James money instead..... but wifey threw a wobbler....
(Mike dundee did trial runs on his speedo trim with my original unit BTW)
For the unofficial record, , and obviously this is no use to you selling it, as it's hard to back up, but if you take a close look at the MOT mileage records, which hopefully james passed on to you... he did have them, ,you can easily work out i'd have had to put on and additional 60K+ in a single year. which frankly I WISH i had ! I LIKE driving these things... but I simply don't spend THAT much time on the road, i'm not a bloody rep...
if you ARE going to get rid, I'd probably like to come to some kind of arrangement over the tow bar &wiring ;) new car doesn;t have it...
dunno if that's practical or if i should fork out to get a new one fitted..... it's just a thought...
spend much time driving in London , (like I did today) and you'll WISH you had the auto...
For motorway, it's actually better economically , especially on cruise control, and for "Metropolitan" driving, it's SOOO much easier...
Ona practical level, i'll NEVER go back to a saloon as my main or only car...
Show me a saloon you can get a king size mattress IN
(which i did last night.... went and picked up a new one... JUST got it in the back, although granted i had to move the front seats as far forward as i physically could and still drive .... )
the ability to carry masses of luggage as well as family when taking daughter to Uni , probably doesn;t impress you... but it's kind of essential here. ;)
tell you what, go find an old 2.8i Capri, take it for a spin, then get back in the elite.
Now THAT's culture shock!
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Too much to read at this time of night. ;D ;D ;D
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At the mo'id say Markie idea is a good un From a personal point of view
(even though ive not had it long) i should have waited and bought a V6
estate auto for me obviously but you could have the best of both worlds
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i keep going back to the estate, being an auto, father & mother tunnie can drive it too.
Plus i can take the dog places.... and when all of us places there is more room, and the 3.0 copes much better with a fully loaded car
:-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
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Replace the auto box with a manual on the Elite :y
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A hard decision.
Economically you will be likely better with the 2.2
are you just looking at the v6 through rose tinted specs cos its 'bigger and better'
Personally, I would keep the Estate, but thats me, I like a practical car.
I'm guessing if the 3 was a manual there would be no decision.
Did you get that gearbox topped up ;D
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LPG the estate
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A hard decision.
Economically you will be likely better with the 2.2
are you just looking at the v6 through rose tinted specs cos its 'bigger and better'
Personally, I would keep the Estate, but thats me, I like a practical car.
I'm guessing if the 3 was a manual there would be no decision.
Did you get that gearbox topped up ;D
No not topped it up yet :-[
Once slight problem is i don't think the estate fits in the garage!, not a problem with summer comming i guess.
The door does not go up as high as it should, its ok going in forwards, but because the door is so close and the estate is so high at the back, it catches. I can't back it in, cause the damn door does not go high enough! ;D :o :(
The estate is more practical, and everyone can drive it, and its faster.
But the 2.2 is in better condition, has no rust and runs fine.
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LPG the estate
Its not a question of fuel costs, they are about the same on fuel. 22mpg on the estate, 26 mpg on the 2.2
I fill up about once a month at the moment!
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A hard decision.
Economically you will be likely better with the 2.2
are you just looking at the v6 through rose tinted specs cos its 'bigger and better'
Personally, I would keep the Estate, but thats me, I like a practical car.
I'm guessing if the 3 was a manual there would be no decision.
Did you get that gearbox topped up ;D
No not topped it up yet :-[
Once slight problem is i don't think the estate fits in the garage!, not a problem with summer comming i guess.
The door does not go up as high as it should, its ok going in forwards, but because the door is so close and the estate is so high at the back, it catches. I can't back it in, cause the damn door does not go high enough! ;D :o :(
The estate is more practical, and everyone can drive it, and its faster.
But the 2.2 is in better condition, has no rust and runs fine.
Keep the estate and fix the garage door ;)
The estate is probably worth more to you than it would fetch given the extra apparent miles. Estates are still much more sellable even with huge mileage. So I'd sell the 2.2 while its still worth something - as that one will be depreciating more. (I'm not sure how old the V6 is though)
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Hmmm..........2.2 v 3.0 V6 power? :-/ No contest Mark! 8-)
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LPG the estate
Its not a question of fuel costs, they are about the same on fuel. 22mpg on the estate, 26 mpg on the 2.2
I fill up about once a month at the moment!
This is an 18% increase in fuel costs. :y
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Personally I would keep the estate, and spend a bit of money on it.
Get the climate fixed (essential with warmer months coming) and replace the shocks and springs all round.
Once they are changed you will find that it becomes a whole lot more entertaining to drive! :)
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sell em both and buy a low mile manual 3.0 :o
Seriously - it would make more sense to keep the newer one, I cant believe i am suporting a 4 pot over a v6 :-X
That's what I would do. Fair bit more hassle though, cos then you have to sell two cars and buy another, then deal with the inevitable niggles that the new one brings.
As much as I thought even the 3.0 is a little underpowered in this size of car, given that choice I'd take the 2.2. Power is great and you can never quite have enough, but control and throwing it around near the limits on B roads is what makes driving fun, and for that you need a manual. Either that or throw a manual box in the 3.0 as mentioned -- you can pick up the parts for peanuts as the scrappies are full of them (they don't break so there's no demand for used manual boxes), if you can do the work yourself it can be converted for a little over £100! If I ever buy another Omega this route is a serious consideration as a way of getting a 3.2 that hasn't been thrashed on traffic duties and isn't poverty spec.
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Power is great and you can never quite have enough, but control and throwing it around near the limits on B roads is what makes driving fun, and for that you need a manual. Either that or throw a manual box in the 3.0 as mentioned -- .......
You know those big black round things we used to have before the advent of CD's? As they got older they used to get scatched & then used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over ...... used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over ..... used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over and we used to have to kick it to make it play to the end of the track. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ ;D
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Power is great and you can never quite have enough, but control and throwing it around near the limits on B roads is what makes driving fun, and for that you need a manual. Either that or throw a manual box in the 3.0 as mentioned -- .......
You know those big black round things we used to have before the advent of CD's? As they got older they used to get scatched & then used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over ...... used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over ..... used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over and we used to have to kick it to make it play to the end of the track. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ ;D
thats well before my time ;D
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Here's my idea ..
convert 2.2 for lpg.. Will be easier and cheaper..And better for long
runs..
And keep 3.0..For other times..
As you have two cars they will need service proportional to their share
of your mileage..But will not actually be same as two cars with high
mileages per day..
Another advantage is if one have problem you can switch to other so
you will not loose mobility on urgent cases..And the whole family will
have one ready under hand..
Only tax and mot will make you tired a bit..
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Power is great and you can never quite have enough, but control and throwing it around near the limits on B roads is what makes driving fun, and for that you need a manual. Either that or throw a manual box in the 3.0 as mentioned -- .......
You know those big black round things we used to have before the advent of CD's? As they got older they used to get scatched & then used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over ...... used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over ..... used to stick in the same groove & repeat iteself over and we used to have to kick it to make it play to the end of the track. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ ;D
Not really... kinda before my time too. Maybe that also explains why I still have full use of all 4 limbs without aches and pains, and why I still actually enjoy driving, rather than use it as a lowest effort method of transport :D
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Personally I would keep the estate, and spend a bit of money on it.
Get the climate fixed (essential with warmer months coming) and replace the shocks and springs all round.
Once they are changed you will find that it becomes a whole lot more entertaining to drive! :)
it had new rear self levellers last august ish :D
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Personally I would keep the estate, and spend a bit of money on it.
Get the climate fixed (essential with warmer months coming) and replace the shocks and springs all round.
Once they are changed you will find that it becomes a whole lot more entertaining to drive! :)
it had new rear self levellers last august ish :D
Thats a good point its had a LOT of work done, which makes it harder.
Both the 3.0 and 2.2 have tones of tread left on the tyres, Estate has had new shocks, themostat, cambelt done last year at the brackley party, just done the brakes and rad last weekend.
Someone mentioned a good point... the 2.2 is worth a lot more currently and its only going to go down.
:-/ :-/ :-/
I need to get the multi-rams and heating fixed... maybe a trip to Nottingham is in order ;)
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... have you checked the routing of all the vacuum pipes?
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... have you checked the routing of all the vacuum pipes?
Yep!
Although the multiram feed was plugged, due to a broken servo pipe... I guess a T peice will sort!
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Tunnie - those multirams are an easy fix :y
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Can sort you out pretty much any bits you need for the 3.0 v6 mate, even have an A/C compressor here if you need one or an entire multiram...parts are pretty cheap, go on you know you want the estate!! More practical and a great drive when its all sorted properly :)
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descison made, see for sale section.
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How is the ATF level? ;D
Mrs Jimbob could be tempted!
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How is the ATF level? ;D
Mrs Jimbob could be tempted!
I would be full if i could get the drain plug off ::)