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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: MikeDundee on 01 March 2008, 21:44:12
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According to this website chips can be fitted to all meegas, did'nt think they were available or could be fitted to the 2.6, but apparantley they can :-?, for £299.00 :-X
http://www.superchips.co.uk/models.php
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£299 seems a bit excessive just for a chip unless its a custom job done on a rolling road.
I was thinking of trying one from german ebay in my mv6 for about £40.
Might work, it might not but he doas seem to have some good feedback from english customers.
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Wonder if its a programme of the existing chip rather than a chip change?? :-/
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Wonder if its a programme of the existing chip rather than a chip change?? :-/
Sounds like it is an actual chip, power gain of 13bhp
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Wonder if its a programme of the existing chip rather than a chip change?? :-/
Sounds like it is an actual chip, power gain of 13bhp
realistic figures.. :y
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£299 seems a bit excessive just for a chip unless its a custom job done on a rolling road.
I was thinking of trying one from german ebay in my mv6 for about £40.
Might work, it might not but he doas seem to have some good feedback from english customers.
Don't do it!!!! You will get good power gains but at a huge cost to the mpg, I looked into this for my audi and spoke to a few guys who had them, they ended up getting around 17mpg out of their 1.8T's!!!
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£299 seems a bit excessive just for a chip unless its a custom job done on a rolling road.
I was thinking of trying one from german ebay in my mv6 for about £40.
Might work, it might not but he doas seem to have some good feedback from english customers.
Don't do it!!!! You will get good power gains but at a huge cost to the mpg, I looked into this for my audi and spoke to a few guys who had them, they ended up getting around 17mpg out of their 1.8T's!!!
no pain no gain ;D
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£299 seems a bit excessive just for a chip unless its a custom job done on a rolling road.
I was thinking of trying one from german ebay in my mv6 for about £40.
Might work, it might not but he doas seem to have some good feedback from english customers.
Don't do it!!!! You will get good power gains but at a huge cost to the mpg, I looked into this for my audi and spoke to a few guys who had them, they ended up getting around 17mpg out of their 1.8T's!!!
Found them on the Courtenay sport site, to be honest not sure that for 13 bhp it's really worth it, the car runs good at the moment :y
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I probably shouldn,t say this but I have the equipment to read and program eprom chips(I do some at work) I also have a box full of blank chips. If anyone wanted to lend me a modified chip aslong as it wasn't copyrighted I could copy the software from the chip and copy it to blank chips.
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If I'm honest, I've considered a chip too! Outway'd by the belief that a well maintained vehicle at it's standard peak performance will suffice. I always assume that the design will be to achieve the best MPG, BHP and drivability... probably not worth £300.
I recall working at Collins Performance in Cheshire, Sue was programming chips for the early turbo diesels. Company cars that reps and the like thought that they'd been dupped with, by the government incentives and frugal bosses. The conversation was that they'll get more torque which will inherently give a quicker 0-60 figure, economy will suffer though :'(
It's a trade off...
Predominantly my opinion...
Save your money Mike... Buy some nice Whiskey Whisky :P
DC
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If I'm honest, I've considered a chip too! Outway'd by the belief that a well maintained vehicle at it's standard peak performance will suffice. I always assume that the design will be to achieve the best MPG, BHP and drivability... probably not worth £300.
I recall working at Collins Performance in Cheshire, Sue was programming chips for the early turbo diesels. Company cars that reps and the like thought that they'd been dupped with, by the government incentives and frugal bosses. The conversation was that they'll get more torque which will inherently give a quicker 0-60 figure, economy will suffer though :'(
It's a trade off...
Predominantly my opinion...
Save your money Mike... Buy some nice Whiskey Whisky :P
DC
My thoughts exactly :y
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I probably shouldn,t say this but I have the equipment to read and program eprom chips(I do some at work) I also have a box full of blank chips. If anyone wanted to lend me a modified chip aslong as it wasn't copyrighted I could copy the software from the chip and copy it to blank chips.
Used to have access to an eprom burner myself, it was for programming alarm dialers and Redcare chips, often wondered if an ECU chip was do-able,, if it'll fit the slot, it WILL copy! As you quite rightly say Copyright is paramount and the forum would not condone such a breach..
Dave C ::)
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Chips are advertised as giving more bhp, more torque and better econeomy but the truth is you get either more power or more mpg.
Its a bit like using v power petrol over standard.
If you drive with a light foot you will gain a small amount on mpg as the engine will be producing more power at a set point meaning you don't have to press the throttle as hard to get the same performence.
However if you drive with a heavy foot you will loose mpg in favour of more power, it is impossible to get more power from the same engine without putting in more fuel.
The fuel gains you would get from fitting a chip would be that small you would hardly notice it so I would only go for one if you wan't to increase the performance.
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re the mpg v performance, depending on car and chip, you can have both ;)
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
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£299 seems a bit excessive just for a chip unless its a custom job done on a rolling road.
I was thinking of trying one from german ebay in my mv6 for about £40.
Might work, it might not but he doas seem to have some good feedback from english customers.
Don't do it!!!! You will get good power gains but at a huge cost to the mpg, I looked into this for my audi and spoke to a few guys who had them, they ended up getting around 17mpg out of their 1.8T's!!!
17mpg doesn't really worry me too much, my other toy goes down to 3.5mpg
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj315/jemis123/DSC00423-1.jpg)
I wouldn't mind getting a bit more low down grunt out of my mv6 though.
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
Exactly - my tractor is about 18% more power (alledgedly) and 10% better mpg on average since chipped.
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
Exactly - my tractor is about 18% more power (alledgedly) and 10% better mpg on average since chipped.
:y glad to read that,im not much of a techie, but i do like to think that on my better days i have a modicum of common sense ;D
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Chip changes don't work that well on non Turbo engines, they just iron out any little flat spots, but on Turbo petrol engines you get more power and torque and Diesel Turbo's you see more power/Torque and better MPG.
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
Exactly - my tractor is about 18% more power (alledgedly) and 10% better mpg on average since chipped.
your engine is already de-tuned by the factory..not counted ;D
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
mostly..but nowadays factories tend to choose economy..
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
Exactly - my tractor is about 18% more power (alledgedly) and 10% better mpg on average since chipped.
your engine is already de-tuned by the factory..not counted ;D
That may be true, but put a better G/box (BMW man or auto) on and retune to BMW spec then add chip, much better fun to be had, along with better economy. ;) :)
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
Good point.
Even on the diesel it still depends on how hard you push the peddle.
The extra economy is easier to see on the deisel because it is all low down torque so you don't have to nail the throttle as much to get what you wan't from the engine.
We have a tuning box in my wifes diesel merc which I thrash and don't get better economy but it is definately quicker however she drives it all the time and it seems to be about 5% better on fuel than it was without the box fitted.
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
Exactly - my tractor is about 18% more power (alledgedly) and 10% better mpg on average since chipped.
your engine is already de-tuned by the factory..not counted ;D
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
mostly..but nowadays factories tend to choose economy..
They are factory tuned to be cleaner burning rather than any other reason to keep the green party happy which is good for econemy but bad for power.
In some cases with diesels they will not pass the emissions test in the mot with a tuning box plugged in.
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although optimum air fuel ratio is fix,
for a given volume if you want to boost the power over its capacity ,
consumption increase is not proportional because of energy losses..
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
mostly..but nowadays factories tend to choose economy..
They are factory tuned to be cleaner burning rather than any other reason to keep the green party happy which is good for econemy but bad for power.
In some cases with diesels they will not pass the emissions test in the mot with a tuning box plugged in.
agreed..
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every mod that will bring more power, will consume more fuel..
law of thermodynamics ;D
doesnt that assume the engine is running at optimum in both parameters before adjustmens are made ? :-/
mostly..but nowadays factories tend to choose economy..
They are factory tuned to be cleaner burning rather than any other reason to keep the green party happy which is good for econemy but bad for power.
In some cases with diesels they will not pass the emissions test in the mot with a tuning box plugged in.
agreed..
Ok so why are alot of "Tuning box and Chip" companies in Germany where the emissions test are harder that ours. I know of three VW Golfs (2xMk 4, 1xMk 5 TDi's) that AMD have done Chip's on, that pass MOT's with flying colours
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I have a chip in my MV6 it seems a bit more responsive and mpg hasn't really suffered at all :)
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I have a chip in my MV6 it seems a bit more responsive and mpg hasn't really suffered at all :)
Well it is time you cleaned your car then, the seaside is a bugger, chips and bits of fish, and sand seems to get everywhere. ;D ;D ;D
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I have a chip in my MV6 it seems a bit more responsive and mpg hasn't really suffered at all :)
Well it is time you cleaned your car then, the seaside is a bugger, chips and bits of fish, and sand seems to get everywhere. ;D ;D ;D
I actually meant a chip in my windscreen ;D
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£299 seems a bit excessive just for a chip unless its a custom job done on a rolling road.
I was thinking of trying one from german ebay in my mv6 for about £40.
Might work, it might not but he doas seem to have some good feedback from english customers.
there is a shop near me that will supply chips for about 90p, you get a big bag full and they will put salt n viginar on at no extra cost.. ;D