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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Bacon Butty Man on 01 March 2008, 17:44:27
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as some of you are aware i sold my old passat on ebay,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300200396886&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT&ih=020
The guy came form essex to collect it today, This guy is a mechanic and bought it with a view to fix the probs and sell it on and make some money. He has just phoned me to say it has broken down on the M6 and a piston has shot thru the block, now this car had a sticking valve, is this likely to happen on what i called a tappety engine, the guy had a good look around the engine before paying, as you would, checked the usual thing, oil cap, where he found white froth and announced the head gasket was gone, but he would sort that when he sorts the valve, didnt seem phased by it, looked all around the car and went to the cash point to get his money, altho this guy won it on ebay auction if he wanted to back out after viewing i would have agreed, but did not make this common knowledge i thought i would leave that ball in his court. He paid and off he went , seemed happy enough, then the call!!, all i could suggest is that he phoned the AA. What more could i do, heat the end of the day he has bought a car with engine problems from a
private seller. What come back am i likely to have from this, i gave him a reciept that stated sold as seen, no waranty or garantee's given.
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similar thing happened to me a while ago Its his problem
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If i am right, there is nothing he can do. he might log a complaint with ebay but as you said it was sold as seen and he knew that the head gasket had goneas he told you! so i wouldnt worry to much about it.
have you got a copy fo the receipt you gave him for your records, its just going to cost him a bit more to fix it now thats all.
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He has no comeback AT ALL
It was sold as seen, with a known / described fault.
It was his risk to drive a car with a faulty valve, he should have trailered it.
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as some of you are aware i sold my old passat on ebay,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300200396886&ssPageName=STRK:MESO:IT&ih=020
The guy came form essex to collect it today, This guy is a mechanic and bought it with a view to fix the probs and sell it on and make some money. He has just phoned me to say it has broken down on the M6 and a piston has shot thru the block, now this car had a sticking valve, is this likely to happen on what i called a tappety engine, the guy had a good look around the engine before paying, as you would, checked the usual thing, oil cap, where he found white froth and announced the head gasket was gone, but he would sort that when he sorts the valve, didnt seem phased by it, looked all around the car and went to the cash point to get his money, altho this guy won it on ebay auction if he wanted to back out after viewing i would have agreed, but did not make this common knowledge i thought i would leave that ball in his court. He paid and off he went , seemed happy enough, then the call!!, all i could suggest is that he phoned the AA. What more could i do, heat the end of the day he has bought a car with engine problems from a
private seller. What come back am i likely to have from this, i gave him a reciept that stated sold as seen, no waranty or garantee's given.
The receipt will help I'm sure. AFAIK trading standards only apply to trade sales, so no comeback but that doesn't mean he won't try.
Rod doesn't go through block from head gasket or tappety engine that I've heard of. :-/
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sold as seen bud guy is a mechy and had a good lock round it to put a rod threw block must have been caneing the arse out of it bud !! tell him to sling his hook !! >:(
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
yes agree with james he checked car over and was sold with fault !! :y
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Can't believe a piston has gone through the block :o
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Naturally ;)
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Can't believe a piston has gone through the block :o
a normal person wouldnt make a story up like that, would they that's the buyer not the seller
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he was gonna make a few bob repairing a "with faults car" to sell. but he was aware of the faults so ya win some and lose some!!
hes got no come back cos he checked the engine over!
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First off what the breaks he doing trying to drive a car back to Essex from Blackpool with a blown h.g? :o second its sold as seen buyer beware, and lastly you are not at liberty to point out faults but if you are asked about them then you must answer truthfully.
Summary he has no grounds for redress whatsowever
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when selling stuff on ebay, or anywhere else for that matter, i always use a "disposable" number ;D
those free o2 sim cards come in handy ;D
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To quote your ad....
The bad bits to the body have been pictured and the engine has developed a tappety noise over the last month or so and is very quiet at times then can be noisy at others, i have been told that the valves probably need cleaning but i havent had this done, If you are unsure, please get it inspected first before you bid, This has not affected the response or power of the car,
Buyer to pay cash, or cheque subject to clearing, £50 none returnable deposit within 48 hours with the remainder to be paid within 7 days, As with all auction the last bid is final and legally binding, I offer not warantee's etc, car is sold as seen.
To me that says it all! Buyer beware! No come back from that in my eyes
A further thought If he is a mechanic, a, it should matter too much, B, could he have had time to swap some parts and pretend it is yours that has broken?
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Sellers can't anymore, and rightly so ;)
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i thought everything on ebay was bought as seen??? :-?
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he has just phoned back and he was ok about it, said it wernt my fault etc, i said it wasnt anything to do with the valves and then he said its costing him 300 quid to be trucked back to essex, out of the goodness of my heart i offered him £50 quid back which he seemed greatful for, to be honest i thought he was a bit stupid to drive it back and not trailer it. i rekon he was tanking it back and that why its blown, soddin bugger broke
my his :'( passat
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A noble gesture. I think you have been more than fair with the buyer. :y
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Sellers can't anymore, and rightly so ;)
Is this right? Pretty peed this week after I bought an item off ebay last week, instant pay pal payment, with 1st class post. 5 days no item, so bought one from a shop, as needed. emailed seller asking him to refund my paypal, no response. 3 days later item arrived, posed day after my email. Wanted to leave a comment on his feedback but did not want a negative back. :)
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2 points about the sale of your passat
1 if he was a mechanic he should have known better than to try and drive it home, if there was a valve sticking it usually means its bent and if you keep driving especially at high revs it will snap drop into the top of the piston and the end result will be the conrod through the side.
2 if the headgasket was leaking a high amount of coolant into the oil the oil would loose it properties to the extent it could have seized a little end usually rsulting in a conrod through the block.
Eitherway entirely his own fault so I wouldn,t lose any sleep over it.
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'Sold as seen' is a pointless phrase as it means absolutly nothing! If your a trader nothing is sold as seen, if your private then everything is, as the old saying goes, buyer beware! He has no come back on you at all, especially if he was aware the car had problems. It is possible the gasket poured a gallon of coolant into a cylinder and caused hydraulic lock but thats his problem not yours. If you are still worried have a look through the ebay community motors board, do a search and you will find loads of posts from people who have had similar problems. If the guys a tech he should have known better than to go belting down the motorway in a car with a knackered head gasket and sticky valves!
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Sellers can't anymore, and rightly so ;)
I disagree... sorry !
What if, a buyer has completely unreasonable expectations, doesn't view a car before bidding, buys it anyway on impulse, and then leaves negative feedback for the seller because there is an aspect he's unhappy with (which he should have checked out).
That means the seller can't then leave a negative feedback to say the buyer was unreasonable / etc..
A sale is a 2 way thing, and as such feedback should be allowed from both sides.
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Hey baconbuttyman,
Maybe the next time it happens like that, just say "SO WHAT" sold as seen Mr mechanic man
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If its overheated then yes, I can beleave the rod has gone through the block....
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thanx for the advice guys, looks like the guy has took it on the chin and accepted it. I will send him the £50 as i promised altho i dont really have to, its a gesture of good will and to the response of stopping sellers leaving negative feed back i think is wrong, this will leave sellers in a right pickle but ebay have said that sellers will be able to remove unfair feedback and have more powers againg npb's, but lately i have had around 10 npb's in about 30 auctions, i must admit that this new rule will open the flood gates for buyers to mess sellers about, impulse buys then mind changing etc aspecially on larger items like cars TV's n the such. i will give them 12 months or less before they scrap it and also read in computer active that FEEBAY is raising its prices, its expensive enough, i am sourcing alternative like ebid.co.uk they are ok but not yet big enough. :'(
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Sellers can't anymore, and rightly so ;)
was not aware of this.... :o
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Sellers can't anymore, and rightly so ;)
I disagree... sorry !
What if, a buyer has completely unreasonable expectations, doesn't view a car before bidding, buys it anyway on impulse, and then leaves negative feedback for the seller because there is an aspect he's unhappy with (which he should have checked out).
That means the seller can't then leave a negative feedback to say the buyer was unreasonable / etc..
A sale is a 2 way thing, and as such feedback should be allowed from both sides.
This is a long overdue policy change from ebay.
If a buyer doesn't buy, there are other processes in place, such as NPB. If buyer does buy (keeping his side of bargain) then seller should be happy. If seller is worried about time wasters signing up to bid, use the selling tools to block. No problem.
Now, the problem with the previous rules, most sellers were holding buyers to ransom. If a seller was poor, or item missing or rubbish, a seller couldn't leave negative feedback, as sellers wait to receive feedback before giving, and retaliate if not good. This allows sellers to get away with anything, as buyers that keen to maintain their own feedback.
Block the sellers leaving bad feedback is the best solution with the current system to protect the buyers (most important part of ebay). Sellers have other avenues to complain about buyers...
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worst you can expect is negtive feedback...
Which you should promptly return if he does!
Sellers can't anymore, and rightly so ;)
was not aware of this.... :o
I think it came in 1st March (or is it 1st May - cant remember :-/)
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May - just checked....
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May - just checked....
hmmmm not sure i agree with this policy either - but as a seller i havent had a negative for years so i guess its not affecting me :-/
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May - just checked....
hmmmm not sure i agree with this policy either - but as a seller i havent had a negative for years so i guess its not affecting me :-/
Not sure why good sellers should be wary. From a sellers side, non payment is the main issue, and there are other policies in place to deal with that.
There are a lot of suspect sellers who will be miffed, and buyers will be able to leave feedback without fear of repercussion.
:-/
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I do see it's advantages... but still don't think it's fair if a buyer with unreasonable expectations leaves a seller a negative for something silly... and the seller cannot warn others (via the buyers feedback) that he is difficult to deal with...