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Title: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 14:09:41
...is my parking legal?  :o

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Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 14:12:44
1. It wasn't me who sprayed it with yellow paint.

2. I have no idea what the sign actually says  ::), but let's assume hypothetically  ;) that it said 'Residents Parking', and no I don't have the parking permit for this area....

Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 December 2007, 14:17:34
unless somebody scratch your car I dont see any problem.. :)

in my home street there are times even we cant find place ..(in summer)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Crazydad on 14 December 2007, 14:18:44
Now you are not going to tell me that somebody actually Lives in that building are you??? :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 14:24:31
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Now you are not going to tell me that somebody actually Lives in that building are you??? :o :o :o :o :o


Yes, I live there. Got a problem with that?  :o





 ;D


It's a garage next to my office. They specialise in Yank cars, and the white car in front of me is a stripped-down Bristol waiting restoration (Bristol have Yank-car engines).


Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Crazydad on 14 December 2007, 14:28:52
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Now you are not going to tell me that somebody actually Lives in that building are you??? :o :o :o :o :o


Yes, I live there. Got a problem with that?  :o





 ;D


It's a garage next to my office. They specialise in Yank cars, and the white car in front of me is a stripped-down Bristol waiting restoration (Bristol have Yank-car engines).


Interesting, have you been in to see how they work???
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Danny on 14 December 2007, 14:51:25
if there is no clear sign explaining parking rules, and that one has been like that for a long enough period of time that the council would have had time to fix it (as if someone's gonna complain!!) then i dont think you're breaking any laws...

have you recieved a ticket?

is it a one way road? my mum told me you have to face the right way on whatever side of the road you're parked on, cos of the reflectors in your rear light clusters...?
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 14:56:34
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if there is no clear sign explaining parking rules, and that one has been like that for a long enough period of time that the council would have had time to fix it (as if someone's gonna complain!!) then i dont think you're breaking any laws...

have you recieved a ticket?

is it a one way road? my mum told me you have to face the right way on whatever side of the road you're parked on, cos of the reflectors in your rear light clusters...?


Don't know if I got as ticket, I just left the car there and went to my office, will let you know when I get back to the car....

My understanding that the UK was one of the few countries where you are allowed to park facing traffic - something which is illegal in many other countries....

Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: STMO123 on 14 December 2007, 14:59:09
You phone/camera must get full up pretty quickly Isaac :-?
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 14:59:16
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Now you are not going to tell me that somebody actually Lives in that building are you??? :o :o :o :o :o


Yes, I live there. Got a problem with that?  :o





 ;D


It's a garage next to my office. They specialise in Yank cars, and the white car in front of me is a stripped-down Bristol waiting restoration (Bristol have Yank-car engines).


Interesting, have you been in to see how they work???


These are the same people from:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1194974769

And the Bristol does not seem to be progressing very well...

The also do Jensens BTW.

Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 15:00:00
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You phone/camera must get full up pretty quickly Isaac :-?

I got myself a 1gig mem card   ::)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: STMO123 on 14 December 2007, 15:03:29
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You phone/camera must get full up pretty quickly Isaac :-?

I got myself a 1gig mem card   ::)

I have several ports of call tomorrow. I'll post up the pics of the car parks on my return. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 December 2007, 15:07:29
It's clearly marked out as a parking area and no restrictions are displayed. That spraying over the sign looks almost like the paint they use to blank out signs that are no longer relevant pending their removal.

If they're patrolling it for illegally parked vehicles they should be checking their signs at the same time.

kevin
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: hotel21 on 14 December 2007, 16:28:30
Can't see if there are any yellow paint markings on the kerb edge or upon the gutter.  If none, then as is said above - Plate is obscured/unreadable therefore IMHO, clear to park as long as no obstruction is caused....
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 16:32:46
Thanks Kevin, Hotel21, let's hope the traffic wardens know the law....  :-?
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: hotel21 on 14 December 2007, 16:35:11
Guessing there is no paint on the road/kerb??
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 16:38:25
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Guessing there is no paint on the road/kerb??


Nope, it's proper residents parking bay no idea what it is because I can't read the sign  ;), but there are no yellow line(s)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: sir moanalot on 14 December 2007, 18:04:17
your ok for the moment -until i come down that way and want to use it m8!
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 14 December 2007, 20:08:03
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Guessing there is no paint on the road/kerb??


Nope, it's proper residents parking bay no idea what it is because I can't read the sign  ;), but there are no yellow line(s)

If a parking attendant sees you parked there.........bet he/she tickets you.......for their quota.....just in case you are good and pay up.......but you will dispute it.....a ticket will have to be withdrawn.....hassle for you but. id park there as well if no other spaces to use.  :y
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 20:30:37
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Guessing there is no paint on the road/kerb??


Nope, it's proper residents parking bay no idea what it is because I can't read the sign  ;), but there are no yellow line(s)

If a parking attendant sees you parked there.........bet he/she tickets you.......for their quota.....just in case you are good and pay up.......but you will dispute it.....a ticket will have to be withdrawn.....hassle for you but. id park there as well if no other spaces to use.  :y

No other parking in the area, only Pay and Display @ £2 per hour with a 4 hour limit.

Anyway, the good news is that I parked there for 5 hours today and no ticket  8-)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 December 2007, 20:33:00
If the Bristol hasn't been ticketed yet I guess you're fairly safe.

Kevin
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 14 December 2007, 20:38:34
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If the Bristol hasn't been ticketed yet I guess you're fairly safe.

Kevin

Dont think thats in the parking bay..........the dotted white lines seem to stop at the front of MJ's omega  :-/
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 14 December 2007, 20:42:04
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If the Bristol hasn't been ticketed yet I guess you're fairly safe.

Kevin

Dont think thats in the parking bay..........the dotted white lines seem to stop at the front of MJ's omega  :-/

The Bristol is on a yellow line outside the parking bay, they push it out of the garage every morning and push it back in in the evening, every day for the past few months... years... not sure how long really. It has no plates so can not be ticketed.

Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Chopsdad on 14 December 2007, 21:18:21
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Thanks Kevin, Hotel21, let's hope the traffic wardens know the law....  :-?

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Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Paul M on 15 December 2007, 01:03:59
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My understanding that the UK was one of the few countries where you are allowed to park facing traffic - something which is illegal in many other countries....


I thought this was actually illegal, but largely unenforced. In the case of an accident involving a car parked facing traffic though (particularly at night due to reflectors) it may be taken into account.

I do admit to occasionally doing it when in a town or city centre, purely because spaces are hard to come by, so if you see one on the opposite side of the road by the time you turn around someone else will have taken it! Other than that I will park facing the correct way, apart from anything else it's safer and easier to get into and out of the space if there is any traffic on the road.
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Andy B on 15 December 2007, 01:36:54
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My understanding that the UK was one of the few countries where you are allowed to park facing traffic - something which is illegal in many other countries....


I thought this was actually illegal, but largely unenforced. In the case of an accident involving a car parked facing traffic though (particularly at night due to reflectors) it may be taken into account.

I do admit to occasionally doing it when in a town or city centre, purely because spaces are hard to come by, so if you see one on the opposite side of the road by the time you turn around someone else will have taken it! Other than that I will park facing the correct way, apart from anything else it's safer and easier to get into and out of the space if there is any traffic on the road.

Many moons ago when the world was in black & white  ;) in the small cul-de-sac opposite my parents house, a car drove at speed in reverse into the front of a car that was facing in the wrong direction. The coppers in the reversing car prosecuted the owner of the stationary car!!!  :-? The reason for this fit of pique, was cos it was parked facing the wrong dirction! >:(
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Dave-C on 15 December 2007, 08:07:12
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If the Bristol hasn't been ticketed yet I guess you're fairly safe.
Kevin

It's probably got no reg plate on it, now, that would confuse a traffic warden!!!!

DC :y
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 21 December 2007, 13:15:08
Well the yellow-sprayed sign has been restored to its former glory by the council :(

But the one in the next bay is now completely blackened-out!

I don't think the locals like these signs much... :)

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Yeaaaah free parking again

Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Auto Addict on 21 December 2007, 18:32:40
I like the sign on the wall :y
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 02 January 2008, 10:56:33
The residents are fighting back....
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 02 January 2008, 10:57:21
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Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 02 January 2008, 10:57:54
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Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 15 February 2008, 13:03:56
OK... last Friday the council finally managed to get their act together and replaced all the de-faced signs in the area with brand new one. So no free parking... for a while. Come Monday morning they were all sprayed-over with black paint again, so business as usual for the locals...

There are three bays that are affected by this, two are Residents Parking and one is Pay-and-Display (or that's what they are when the signs are visible anyway). On Wednesday I left my car on the Pay-and-Display bay (again, while the sign was not legible), and got a ticket.

I sent an 'informal appeal' yesterday, but when I spoke to the local garage owner he said that the Traffic Warden was handing out tickets only to cars parked at the Pay-and-Display bay, but not at the Residents Parking pay, and the reason is that the Pay-and-Display ticket machine has a small plaque showing the controlled hours.

Now I find this very interesting... the Council makes the rules, and then enforces them with vigour. But when they break their own rules, their approach seems very cavalier...

If my informal appeal will be rejected, I will send in a formal appeal with a copy of the council rules regarding location of parking restriction post signs.  >:(



Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Auto Addict on 16 February 2008, 18:07:22
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OK... last Friday the council finally managed to get their act together and replaced all the de-faced signs in the area with brand new one. So no free parking... for a while. Come Monday morning they were all sprayed-over with black paint again, so business as usual for the locals...

There are three bays that are affected by this, two are Residents Parking and one is Pay-and-Display (or that's what they are when the signs are visible anyway). On Wednesday I left my car on the Pay-and-Display bay (again, while the sign was not legible), and got a ticket.

I sent an 'informal appeal' yesterday, but when I spoke to the local garage owner he said that the Traffic Warden was handing out tickets only to cars parked at the Pay-and-Display bay, but not at the Residents Parking pay, and the reason is that the Pay-and-Display ticket machine has a small plaque showing the controlled hours.

Now I find this very interesting... the Council makes the rules, and then enforces them with vigour. But when they break their own rules, their approach seems very cavalier...

If my informal appeal will be rejected, I will send in a formal appeal with a copy of the council rules regarding location of parking restriction post signs.  >:(




Bl*%dy troublemaker ;D
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: MikeDundee on 16 February 2008, 18:21:43
Well some of you may recall my fine from last July, for getting stuck in a box junction in peckham, anyway it went to court, received a letter from the court in early December 07, and I am still waiting for them to re-issue the original £60 fine ::)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 16 February 2008, 19:59:42
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OK... last Friday the council finally managed to get their act together and replaced all the de-faced signs in the area with brand new one. So no free parking... for a while. Come Monday morning they were all sprayed-over with black paint again, so business as usual for the locals...

There are three bays that are affected by this, two are Residents Parking and one is Pay-and-Display (or that's what they are when the signs are visible anyway). On Wednesday I left my car on the Pay-and-Display bay (again, while the sign was not legible), and got a ticket.

I sent an 'informal appeal' yesterday, but when I spoke to the local garage owner he said that the Traffic Warden was handing out tickets only to cars parked at the Pay-and-Display bay, but not at the Residents Parking pay, and the reason is that the Pay-and-Display ticket machine has a small plaque showing the controlled hours.

Now I find this very interesting... the Council makes the rules, and then enforces them with vigour. But when they break their own rules, their approach seems very cavalier...

If my informal appeal will be rejected, I will send in a formal appeal with a copy of the council rules regarding location of parking restriction post signs.  >:(




Bl*%dy troublemaker ;D

Why is it that Troublemaker has a negative connotation to it, while being a Hell Raiser is a good thing?  ;D
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Auto Addict on 16 February 2008, 21:01:15
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OK... last Friday the council finally managed to get their act together and replaced all the de-faced signs in the area with brand new one. So no free parking... for a while. Come Monday morning they were all sprayed-over with black paint again, so business as usual for the locals...

There are three bays that are affected by this, two are Residents Parking and one is Pay-and-Display (or that's what they are when the signs are visible anyway). On Wednesday I left my car on the Pay-and-Display bay (again, while the sign was not legible), and got a ticket.

I sent an 'informal appeal' yesterday, but when I spoke to the local garage owner he said that the Traffic Warden was handing out tickets only to cars parked at the Pay-and-Display bay, but not at the Residents Parking pay, and the reason is that the Pay-and-Display ticket machine has a small plaque showing the controlled hours.

Now I find this very interesting... the Council makes the rules, and then enforces them with vigour. But when they break their own rules, their approach seems very cavalier...

If my informal appeal will be rejected, I will send in a formal appeal with a copy of the council rules regarding location of parking restriction post signs.  >:(




Bl*%dy troublemaker ;D

Why is it that Troublemaker has a negative connotation to it, while being a Hell Raiser is a good thing?  ;D

Alright then, Bl*%dy Hell Raiser ;)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 05 March 2008, 18:32:36
The Council's reply:

'...Due to insufficient evidence by the Parking Attendant I have taken the discretionary decision to cancel the above PCN.

This case is now closed and no further action is required'.


They can't even bring themselves to admit they got it wrong!

But at least they cancelled the PCN and I can continue parking there  :) ...    for now.





Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 05 March 2008, 18:43:04
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OK... last Friday the council finally managed to get their act together and replaced all the de-faced signs in the area with brand new one. So no free parking... for a while. Come Monday morning they were all sprayed-over with black paint again, so business as usual for the locals...
There are three bays that are affected by this, two are Residents Parking and one is Pay-and-Display (or that's what they are when the signs are visible anyway). On Wednesday I left my car on the Pay-and-Display bay (again, while the sign was not legible), and got a ticket.

I sent an 'informal appeal' yesterday, but when I spoke to the local garage owner he said that the Traffic Warden was handing out tickets only to cars parked at the Pay-and-Display bay, but not at the Residents Parking pay, and the reason is that the Pay-and-Display ticket machine has a small plaque showing the controlled hours.

Now I find this very interesting... the Council makes the rules, and then enforces them with vigour. But when they break their own rules, their approach seems very cavalier...

If my informal appeal will be rejected, I will send in a formal appeal with a copy of the council rules regarding location of parking restriction post signs.  >:(




Clever Brits I love them ;D  Practical lesson :y
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Auto Addict on 05 March 2008, 18:44:59
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The Council's reply:

'...Due to insufficient evidence by the Parking Attendant I have taken the discretionary decision to cancel the above PCN.

This case is now closed and no further action is required'.


They can't even bring themselves to admit they got it wrong!

But at least they cancelled the PCN and I can continue parking there  :) ...    for now.






Bl*$%y troublemaker ;)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 05 March 2008, 20:22:53
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The Council's reply:

'...Due to insufficient evidence by the Parking Attendant I have taken the discretionary decision to cancel the above PCN.

This case is now closed and no further action is required'.


They can't even bring themselves to admit they got it wrong!

But at least they cancelled the PCN and I can continue parking there  :) ...    for now.






Bl*$%y troublemaker ;)



 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: MikeDundee on 05 March 2008, 21:18:39
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Well some of you may recall my fine from last July, for getting stuck in a box junction in peckham, anyway it went to court, received a letter from the court in early December 07, and I am still waiting for them to re-issue the original £60 fine ::)
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And I'm still waiting :)
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: amigov6 on 05 March 2008, 21:29:19
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You phone/camera must get full up pretty quickly Isaac :-?
Oh you're back then....Where do you think you've been then in your new Astra????????????? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Parking question....
Post by: Markjay on 06 March 2008, 22:35:05
...and did I mention that I love Richard Littlejohn?:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=525234&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=322