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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: barclay03 on 28 February 2008, 16:12:23
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anyone on here have them fitted to their omega? local forum is running a group buy on them just now from HIDS-4-U with 40% off, so the 35W set comes to £60 and the extra bright 55W set £120
was just looking for opinions? as i find the standard lights (prefacelift) lacking a bit at night, espcially as theres quite a few unlit roads about this way... was thinking about the 35W set whilst the offer is running
and just to confirm, dipped beam bulb for mega is H1 yea?
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do not fit HID's unless you plan to fit the washer system as well.
When HID's get even slightly dirty they are worse than halogen.
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didnt Mark dtm look in to this a while ago
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i think the general conclusion was that there is a legal issue with retro fitting HIDs as there was a levelling system required in the headlamps and a washer system as well, not having this fitted owuld leave you foul of the law and potentially failing the MOT
do a search on HIDS within the forum, i am sure it will come up :y
Edit here you go
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1199707220
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cheers jay, i had done a search myself but didnt really come up with anythin lol
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
where do you buy your kits from Mark
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I reckon it would make little difference to the good old days when 100 watt H4's were fitted to ye olde headlamps.... Unlikely to be detected, unless they are wired wrong and there's a fire....
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I reckon it would make little difference to the good old days when 100 watt H4's were fitted to ye olde headlamps.... Unlikely to be detected, unless they are wired wrong and there's a fire....
assuming adjusted correctly (possibly fraction low), I think insurance assessor after an accident would be worse enemy.
But doesn't take away from fact they are awful lights without washing system. I cant stress that enough.
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I reckon it would make little difference to the good old days when 100 watt H4's were fitted to ye olde headlamps.... Unlikely to be detected, unless they are wired wrong and there's a fire....
I used 100/80s in car designed for tungsten bulbs!!
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anyone on here have them fitted to their omega? local forum is running a group buy on them just now from HIDS-4-U with 40% off, so the 35W set comes to £60 and the extra bright 55W set £120
was just looking for opinions? as i find the standard lights (prefacelift) lacking a bit at night, espcially as theres quite a few unlit roads about this way... was thinking about the 35W set whilst the offer is running
and just to confirm, dipped beam bulb for mega is H1 yea?
My 2p worth......
I have a kit fitted on my 2.2 (projectors) and find them (4.3k, the brightest) far brighter than even 50% brighter halogen bulbs.
It has since passed an MOT with them fitted :y
I do find they arent so bright when the lenses get dirty......but the same applied when halogens were fitted.
I do tend to clean the lenses fairly often......which is probably better than having washer jets and relying on them to clean, spraying water at dirt doesnt clean as well as a rag.
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
With insurance companies seemingly trying to find more and more excuses to to pay out, that would be my biggest concern.
I have to agree with tunnie, HID lights are more adversely affected by even the slightest film of crud on the lenses than halogens. Not sure if its the shorter wavelength or the way in which its produced, but it is badly affected.
Not sure why the legal bits surrounding washers are in place, whether for the reduced light output or if it causes some kind of glare to oncoming drivers, or both :-/
Not sure giving everyone HIDs would prevent the chavs from having idiotlights on all the time either :-/ - in most cases they dont help much anyway...
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
I have 2 Omegas, one with HID's one with out.
Drive the one with HID's if you don't wash the lights, they go crapper than the one without HIDs. The Halogeons in my 2.2 are not affect as much when dirty.
'dangle berries' to science.
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cant shut my mouth any more ;D ;D
aftermarket kits here on the road are increasing in number
enormously ..
they dont catch your eye badly from the mirror like the original
lights even if they are not aligned properly..
I passed whole winter with after market HID kits in rain,snow,fog..
in every condition even if they are dirty they are much better than the
original omega lights..and I never regret, I pay too much money on
them..
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
Thats the whole bloody point, everything is fantastic when they are clean, but when dirty they are worse than halogens with the same amount of dirt.
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
Thats the whole bloody point, everything is fantastic when they are clean, but when dirty they are worse than halogens with the same amount of dirt.
You are not able to compare... facelift and pre-facelift setup is to different.
And crudd will block light, not disperse it.
Reality is that the worst thing for dispersing the light will be rain and that will happen if you have headlight washers or not...
I have a suspicion that the under lying reason why self leveling and washers are mandatory is because its something the safety people have been pushing for for quite some time......and HID's was a convenient technology to introduce it on!
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lol nice little debate :P
can anyone confirm the bulb fitment? trying to find it myself but seem to be rather bad today :lol: ive seen both H1 and H7 quoted
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You are not able to compare... facelift and pre-facelift setup is to different.
I have a suspicion that the under lying reason why self leveling and washers are mandatory is because its something the safety people have been pushing for for quite some time......and HID's was a convenient technology to introduce it on!
Whilst different, I wouldn't say drastically different to have a huge difference - similar shaped lens, same bulbs I believe (and being projector, no reflectors to make a noticible difference) :-/
Problem with levelling, on a halogen car, if you look directly into the light, its pretty bright. Do same on a HID, and its like looking into a camera flash (similar tech I guess?), and you'll be blinded for a second or 2 - anyone who's had a gatso go off in their face at night with nothing around will know exactly what I mean. The levelling helps keep the lights at the right angle should it be loaded up a bit, and (on new cars) fast enough to mostly deal with bumps.
As to washers - we all know how bad our halogens are at the moment with this 'november' type grim being kicked up from the tarmac. It affects them, and light output goes down significantly. With HIDs, no idea why, but light output goes down to what I would class dangerous levels very quickly, to the point that I am washing the lights rather than the windscreen. I have never had to clean headlights so much as I've had to with the 2 HID based cars I've owned - I'd say after a motorway trip this time of year, the lights are on par with pre 98 Omegas....
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....light output goes down to what I would class dangerous levels very quickly, to the point that I am washing the lights rather than the windscreen. I have never had to clean headlights so much as I've had to with the 2 HID based cars I've owned - I'd say after a motorway trip this time of year, the lights are on par with pre 98 Omegas....
It's quite amazing how quickly you can use 6.7 Litres of washer fluid when you have HID's!
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unless theres a wiper the washers dont clean nothin :-/
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If I may add my 2 cents worth, was followed by a porsce the other day with HID's obviously the adjuster system was stuck or not fitted. It annoyed the hell out of me and oncoming drivers everytime he went over a bump.
Also could be very dangerous approaching a junction as someone could be mistaken for thinking he was being flashed to pull out.
I no you should not pull out when someone flashes you but people do.
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If I may add my 2 cents worth, was followed by a porsce the other day with HID's obviously the adjuster system was stuck or not fitted. It annoyed the hell out of me and oncoming drivers everytime he went over a bump.
Also could be very dangerous approaching a junction as someone could be mistaken for thinking he was being flashed to pull out.
I no you should not pull out when someone flashes you but people do.
Being a biker, I am all too well aware!
I wonder if the Porsche had HID retrofit ::)
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I think auto levelers must be used in every car indendepent of their
type of light..As standard yellowish light is much more pain for the eye
than the blue HIDs..
And personally I prefer everybody got even aftermarket HIDs,
much better than not seeing in front of the nose.. ;D
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If I may add my 2 cents worth, was followed by a porsce the other day with HID's obviously the adjuster system was stuck or not fitted. It annoyed the hell out of me and oncoming drivers everytime he went over a bump.
Also could be very dangerous approaching a junction as someone could be mistaken for thinking he was being flashed to pull out.
I no you should not pull out when someone flashes you but people do.
Being a biker, I am all too well aware!
I wonder if the Porsche had HID retrofit ::)
I supect they where retrofit or he had a message on the dashboard saying there was a fault. I did raise the rear blind and did not take notice of the reg number to see how old it was.
Mike
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
Please please please make certain they are adjusted properly, if I am blinded by those stupid aftermarket systems without levelling on them and have a crash I'll make certain to tell the opposite insurance assessor what to look for.
Whilst lights are to see, they are even more so there to be seen. That does not mean to blind other people. To see yourself better is easy, slow down! It is amazing what can be seen at a slower speed....
Both our cars have the official system on it, and admittedly it is annoying that the levelling system constantly adjusts them and especially going down a hill you don't shine far ahead at all with official HIDs....Aftermarket ones seem to beam up batman's signal...
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
Please please please make certain they are adjusted properly, if I am blinded by those stupid aftermarket systems without levelling on them and have a crash I'll make certain to tell the opposite insurance assessor what to look for.
Whilst lights are to see, they are even more so there to be seen. That does not mean to blind other people. To see yourself better is easy, slow down! It is amazing what can be seen at a slower speed....
Both our cars have the official system on it, and admittedly it is annoying that the levelling system constantly adjusts them and especially going down a hill you don't shine far ahead at all with official HIDs....Aftermarket ones seem to beam up batman's signal...
Slow down??? you've obviously never driven a pre 98 omega then - i'd need a man walking infront of me with a lantern if i went any slower ;D ;D ;D
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
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I personaly suspect that it would never be spotted on an MOT test and if you actualy went out your way to maintain the lights it would still be safer than one hell of a lot of the cars out there!
exatly mark mot tester will not pick it up and would make a hell of a difference to candle power !!! how many cars are running around with only one headlight working !!! >:(
Not when they are dirty ;)
Washer systems are a legal requirement for a reason, I have hids on the 3.0 and it been dry for a few days, so not washed the windscreen.
Noticed my lights where not very good driving back one night (about the same as my halogens on the 2.2)
Quick wash.... and WOW... the difference!! Light output increased at least 60%
HID's are bloody usless without a washer system due to the nature of the type of light.
Spoken by somebody who has no clue about light clearly....
So, exectly what is the difference between incandescent lamp light and discharge lamp light? Can you actualy state what part of the spectrum is being affected by the crudd?
My view is this.....I cant see an insurance assessor even bothering about a well installed HID kit.
A well maintained HID light is going to be better than a poorly maintained incandescent lamp in ALL scenarios.
And no matter how you look at it.....if it stops more people driving round with front fogs on because the front controlled light output is better, then it can only be a good thing....
Please please please make certain they are adjusted properly, if I am blinded by those stupid aftermarket systems without levelling on them and have a crash I'll make certain to tell the opposite insurance assessor what to look for.
Whilst lights are to see, they are even more so there to be seen. That does not mean to blind other people. To see yourself better is easy, slow down! It is amazing what can be seen at a slower speed....
Both our cars have the official system on it, and admittedly it is annoying that the levelling system constantly adjusts them and especially going down a hill you don't shine far ahead at all with official HIDs....Aftermarket ones seem to beam up batman's signal...
Slow down??? you've obviously never driven a pre 98 omega then - i'd need a man walking infront of me with a lantern if i went any slower ;D ;D ;D
agreed..same.. ;D
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...
But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....
Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...
Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see... ;)
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if I'm not wrong this is going to
be similiar end up like oil threads.. ;D
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if I'm not wrong this is going to be similiar end up like oil threads.. ;D
Wet and slippery from the tears [smiley=cry.gif]
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...
But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....
Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...
Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see... ;)
right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of :y
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...
But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....
Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...
Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see... ;)
right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of :y
yep i agree pre 98 lights are crap !! :y
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...
But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....
Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...
Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see... ;)
right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of :y
Even if that is the case, they are nowhere near as dangerous as those aftermarket hid's without levelling installed end-of :P ;)
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at least everybody learned each others point of view :y
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Fit aftermarket HIDs, wind the aim down with the manual adjuster and you have the same setup as auto HID's with a failed sensor :y
Jobs a good un!
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Fit aftermarket HIDs, wind the aim down with the manual adjuster and you have the same setup as auto HID's with a failed sensor :y
Jobs a good un!
lesson understood professor :y
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...
But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....
Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...
Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see... ;)
right i'm at work so this is my final word on the matter - the standard omega lights are rather dangerous - end of :y
Dirty HIDs have about the same light output was yellowed pre 98 lights.
If the lenses are in good condition, whilst not brilliant, they are OK. Might be time for you to get newer lights if yours are that bad (though get projectors rather than ribbed type, as they are better :y
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I have actually, I had a shed from 1995 a 2.0 16v....But the lights were clean inside and out, and everyone easily saw me at night time...
its not others seeing you its you seeing were you are going !! :y
Actually lights were invented to be seen, not to see! And with more and more countries enforcing lights on during the day it enforces that point. And any bikers will know exactly what I am on about...
But come on, if it really is that bad to see with the stock lights you need to buy some new lights. I had a 1995 model and it was not bad at all...Sure my current facelift with factory HID's are better....
Don't know whether it is the same with the Omega's but on the 7'series forum there was always a lot to do about cleaning the inside of the glass and you'd be surprised how good the stock lights are...
Either that or you need glasses, good vision helps as well to see... ;)
So thats what iam doing wrong, i need to have one or both eyes open
:D :D :D :D
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And now for my 2 peenies worth.
I agree, with the omega headlights they are crap (pre 98 models) the light being projected in front of you is so poor led torches would give better lighting. I have had brand new headlights on a car before and they were still poor. I now have projector lights on my elite (97) and the light is still poor but an improvement, I also have ice blue bulbs in them but still the light is not as good as some Omegas I have seen.
I will be purchasing a HID kit very soon and fit them to the car and hopefully have more light being projected in front of me for other road user's to see me coming. Therefore the theory of yellow headlights (bulbs) is completely pointless and more light is best.
HID kits are the best thing that was introduced onto the market so there, end of, thats final,no more said. :y
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so... can anyone comfirm for me what bulb fitment the prefacelift has, H1 or H7? ;D
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so... can anyone comfirm for me what bulb fitment the prefacelift has, H1 or H7? ;D
If they are the same as facelifts........H1 mate :y
I have to agree with MDTM on this one........Retro fit HID's (can only comment on projector headlamps) definately make an improvement......so much so.....i used to hate working in the dark.....now im fine with the darkness.
re the blinding other drivers........ive had lots of times when other drivers have dazzled me with HID's......in nearly new cars......so can only summise...their auto dipping isnt as good as it should be.....so whats the point of it!
re the washers........ive found the light level does drop with HID's when the lense gets dirty.......but probably about the same as Halogens fitted.......a rag is better than water jets to clean em :y
Oh and noticed in a post by MDTM........that manu's use different headlamp units for Halogen and HID's so shouldnt be swapped.......
However i have checked myself a bit.......and confirmed by TB.......its unlikely vx use different projector units for HID's and halogens.....
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cheers, it was h1's
arrived the other day and i fitted them this afternoon... must say, such a difference! :o can acctually see where im goin at night now lol also got my machine polisher onto the headlight lenses and brightened them up a bit at they were looking dull and cloudy 8-)
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cheers, it was h1's
arrived the other day and i fitted them this afternoon... must say, such a difference! :o can acctually see where im goin at night now lol also got my machine polisher onto the headlight lenses and brightened them up a bit at they were looking dull and cloudy 8-)
nice one good result then !! :y
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cheers, it was h1's
arrived the other day and i fitted them this afternoon... must say, such a difference! :o can acctually see where im goin at night now lol also got my machine polisher onto the headlight lenses and brightened them up a bit at they were looking dull and cloudy 8-)
yep..difference amazing :y
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so... can anyone comfirm for me what bulb fitment the prefacelift has, H1 or H7? ;D
If they are the same as facelifts........H1 mate :y
I have to agree with MDTM on this one........Retro fit HID's (can only comment on projector headlamps) definately make an improvement......so much so.....i used to hate working in the dark.....now im fine with the darkness.
re the blinding other drivers........ive had lots of times when other drivers have dazzled me with HID's......in nearly new cars......so can only summise...their auto dipping isnt as good as it should be.....so whats the point of it!
re the washers........ive found the light level does drop with HID's when the lense gets dirty.......but probably about the same as Halogens fitted.......a rag is better than water jets to clean em :y
Oh and noticed in a post by MDTM........that manu's use different headlamp units for Halogen and HID's so shouldnt be swapped.......
However i have checked myself a bit.......and confirmed by TB.......its unlikely vx use different projector units for HID's and halogens.....
They do because the HID bulbs are a different fitting......plus having seen the internals, the lense position and shutter (for the dip section) is slightly different to) but, I suspect again this is due to the different bulb type.