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Title: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 13 October 2011, 02:53:45
Look like the right depth to be omega, but only seen solid moulded carlton ones. If they genuinely fit omega...  Hmmmm.

Anyone used these? Needles to say, we know Carlton donut bushes do "NOT" fit omega.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-Omega-B-FRONT-Subframe-Bush-Rear-LH-RH-x1-/180687989044?_trksid=p3286.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3436009647135213782#ht_910wt_751
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 October 2011, 07:30:43
Ooh... Tempting ::)
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Jimbob on 13 October 2011, 07:32:31
"WE USE THESE BUSHES IN OUR OWN WORKSHOP"

I wonder what for ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: aaronjb on 13 October 2011, 09:30:32
The way I read that, they go at the front of the car? Description is a tad confusing 'FRONT subframe bush - Rear LH / RH'..
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 October 2011, 11:11:49
The way I read that, they go at the front of the car? Description is a tad confusing 'FRONT subframe bush - Rear LH / RH'..

I think they mean front of the rear subframe but it's as clear as mud.

What was the issue with Carlton bushes in the end? Offset position of the metal insert IIRC? Could be cut down on one end and a spacer used at the other worst case?
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 13 October 2011, 12:54:37
The way I read that, they go at the front of the car? Description is a tad confusing 'FRONT subframe bush - Rear LH / RH'..

I think they mean front of the rear subframe but it's as clear as mud.

What was the issue with Carlton bushes in the end? Offset position of the metal insert IIRC? Could be cut down on one end and a spacer used at the other worst case?
yeah tried that, which worked.... they are also too tight a fit, so still worked out over time. Shame, car felt good while they where seated correctly, but could feel the car get loose as they worked out, usually by about 10mill.
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 13 October 2011, 13:03:19
And yes, its very poorly worded. Makes you wonder if they know a Carlton (omega a) from omega (omega b) both sometimes revered to as omega. Construction/moulding looks identical to Carlton/omega a.
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Jimbob on 13 October 2011, 13:07:16
seach on part no takes you to :

http://seekpart24.com/qh/mounting-axle-body-ems8294

which shows VX 90 447 156
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Jimbob on 13 October 2011, 13:14:01
and that IS an omega B bush :y
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2011, 13:32:29
/strokes chin

Wonder if TBE could do with some rear bushes...   ...not that I think it will help with its awful stability problems at the moment...
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Jimbob on 13 October 2011, 13:39:24
seach on part no takes you to :

http://seekpart24.com/qh/mounting-axle-body-ems8294

which shows VX 90 447 156

Playing in EPC...

90447156 4 02 942BLOCK, DAMPER, REAR MOUNTING   2
  Note: EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE

I wonder what effect this would have :

 90539049 4 02 945BLOCK, DAMPER, REAR MOUNTING   2
  Note: FOR AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Jimbob on 13 October 2011, 13:41:34
/me wonders if Chris is on the phone to Vauxhall yet
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 October 2011, 14:52:10
/me wonders if Chris is on the phone to Vauxhall yet

Martin thinks he has ordered them!
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: 2woody on 13 October 2011, 15:48:31
I have a pair on trial soon with filled-in voids ( polyeurethane adhesive )
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 13 October 2011, 18:35:34
seach on part no takes you to :

http://seekpart24.com/qh/mounting-axle-body-ems8294

which shows VX 90 447 156

Playing in EPC...

90447156 4 02 942BLOCK, DAMPER, REAR MOUNTING   2
  Note: EXC.AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE

I wonder what effect this would have :

 90539049 4 02 945BLOCK, DAMPER, REAR MOUNTING   2
  Note: FOR AMBULANCE/ARMOURED BODY/HEARSE

The seek part quoted shows quinton hazel, which has voids?
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Jimbob on 13 October 2011, 20:47:37
but did you notice the 'heavier duty' gen vx part?.....
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: Omegatoy on 13 October 2011, 21:19:39
As said before i fitted senator bushes to my omega, and yes i cut the tops of the aluminium "towers"
off to make them fit, no issues at all with them falling out, they are a tighter fit then the omega ones but the car is still going with no issues nearly a year later? :y
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2011, 21:28:43
As said before i fitted senator bushes to my omega, and yes i cut the tops of the aluminium "towers"
off to make them fit, no issues at all with them falling out, they are a tighter fit then the omega ones but the car is still going with no issues nearly a year later? :y
Wonder if driving style makes a difference, as chrisgixer's Carlton ones kept falling out.  He drives like a man possessed though, not Miss Daisy like you OT :P

Assume Carlton and Senny are the same bushes??
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 14 October 2011, 00:01:09
As said before i fitted senator bushes to my omega, and yes i cut the tops of the aluminium "towers"
off to make them fit, no issues at all with them falling out, they are a tighter fit then the omega ones but the car is still going with no issues nearly a year later? :y
They didn't fall out as such, although I know what you mean. In effect the subframe rises up, the bushes stay put!
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 14 October 2011, 00:04:17
As said before i fitted senator bushes to my omega, and yes i cut the tops of the aluminium "towers"
off to make them fit, no issues at all with them falling out, they are a tighter fit then the omega ones but the car is still going with no issues nearly a year later? :y
They didn't fall out as such, although I know what you mean. In effect the subframe rises up, the bushes stay put!
thinking about that, packing out the top of the subframe with another pad might help. But the Carlton ones I fitted where noticeably tighter to fit, they where not   right for omega.
Title: Re: Are these donuts for omega or Carlton?
Post by: feeutfo on 14 October 2011, 00:05:16
Possessed? Lordy... ;D