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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: bigpaul on 17 October 2011, 18:02:06
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I own An X reg 2.6 v6 CDX
This morning driving to work one of the warning lights came on - Amber light showing an engine ?
I checked the hand book it said "fault in the engine electronics system"
It then said that the electronic system switches to an emergency running programme so that driving can be continued but not to drive like this for any length of time and to contact a deaslership.
Any ideas what this all means ? A diagnostic would cost a fortune with vauxhall how harmful is it to run like this ? any way of resetting the indicator or is that a bad idea
Any suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated its too technically out there for me
Cheers Paul
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It could be anything.. being a 2.6 it's probably a commonly known code, but the only way to know how bad it is, is to check the codes.
You can do it for free yourself: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90581.0
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does it matter that the car is running like a dream as she always does would I notice these types of fault codes in the drive ?
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You sure it`s a 2.6
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what an unusual question yes its a 2.6 V6 CDX on an X plate i believe it would have been one of the first face lifts made late 2000 on a 2001 spec
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Do the pedal trick then, codewill probably be 0420/0430
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If you post your location there may be someone nearby who can offer assistance. :y
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ok look im sorry in a complete thicko but what does the code signify and how can I put it right
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im in swindon wiltshire
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There are a few members around Swindon,so if you cant sort it yourself, help may be at hand.One member in particular springs to mind.But it probably isnt my place to volunteer him in his absence. ;)
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90594.0
List of fault codes for 2.6/3.2 engines.
I think the codes Rob mentioned are for a lamda fault.There is a precat before the main cat and when thery get a bit tired they throw this fault up.The only real cure is to have the precat lamdas moved to a different location furhter along the exhaust. I was under the impression that it happened to 3.2 engines rather than 2.6, but I may be wrong.
Do the pedal trick in Aarons link (not as hard as it first appears,just needs a bit of patience and practice) and see what codes you have.Then post the codes here and more advice will be offered.
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thanks hopefully someone will help im at a loss and confused why shes still running so well.
Even armed with a code not sure what to do with it
yep stupid I know
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If you can get as far as finding the code(s) Post it here and people will advise from there.Dont feel stupid by the way.We all posted questions just like yours when we first joined. ;)
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ok thanks for the advice I will try to read the codes (am doubtful of my competence) as has been suggested and get back with them.
In the mean time am I doing any damage running the car as it is ?
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ok thanks for the advice I will try to read the codes (am doubtful of my competence) as has been suggested and get back with them.
In the mean time am I doing any damage running the car as it is ?
If as you say it`s the orange "engine" light and not the "spanner" light, will probably be the per-cat codes as mentioned so no damage :y
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ok thanks for the advice I will try to read the codes (am doubtful of my competence) as has been suggested and get back with them.
In the mean time am I doing any damage running the car as it is ?
If as you say it`s the orange "engine" light and not the "spanner" light, will probably be the per-cat codes as mentioned so no damage :y
Damn.....should be pre ;D
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Tell us what the stored code(s) are, and we can tell you if you are doing any harm :y
It takes 2 mins to find the codes on a V6.
Yours may be a bit early for a 2.6 :-\ - PM me the reg, I can check if thats right :y
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thanks hopefully someone will help im at a loss and confused why shes still running so well.
Even armed with a code not sure what to do with it
yep stupid I know
Nigel (Entwood) is close to you, and being the gentleman that he is ;) will probably be able to assist. You can always send him a PM.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1316
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Many thanks I will Attempt to get the codes and let you know in the next day or two
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All ways removed the bulb eh Rob if its Lamda
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All ways removed the bulb eh Rob if its Lamda
Much better to remove the sensors ;)
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All ways removed the bulb eh Rob if its Lamda
Ant then in future when the car has gebuine faults,you know nothing about it - until something goes bang. ::)
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All ways removed the bulb eh Rob if its Lamda
Ant then in future when the car has gebuine faults,you know nothing about it - until something goes bang. ::)
That`s what the "spanner" light is for on our newer models :P
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I thought the 'spanner in the car' warning light was immobilizer issues (at least that's what it says in the manual?) ???
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I thought the 'spanner in the car' warning light was immobilizer issues (at least that's what it says in the manual?) ???
The book lies ;)
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I thought the 'spanner in the car' warning light was immobilizer issues (at least that's what it says in the manual?) ???
.....and also Engine electronics, transmission
electronics, immobil izer
Control indicator lights up for a few
seconds when ignition is switched on.
If it lights up when the engine is running:
Fault in the engine electronics or
transm ission elec tronics sy stem. The
electronic system switches to limp-home
mode.
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More than happy to offer any help I can ... I do have a basic code reader/resetter and a little knowledge of the V6 variants .....
Due to family commitments you only have tomorrow night (Tuesday) this week ... We're leaving for Scotland Wednesday evening to see Mrs E's poorly mum, not back until next Tuesday..
I get home about 5 ish on tuesdays so any time after that would be OK for a quick code session.
I'll PM you a phone number .. :)
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ok guys I have checked and rechecked this code uising the pedal test =
0 1 7 0
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hopefully you guys will be able to help me now
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Fuel trim bank A :-\
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I have no idea what that means or what to do about it
Please remember im an idiot at this and need to be guided accordingly
Help !!!
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Sorry, no idea where you are (update your profile ;)), hoping someone nearby can reset trims, then watch if they drift again. Also, monitor lamda.
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Swindon.Nige has offered to help, if he can get there approx. - now. ;)
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all so confusing for me guys dont know what half of it means should i be driving my car
sorry yes in swindon well Highworth actually
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I doubt driving itis going to harm it.Contact Nige (if its not too late.Cant remember what time he said) and let him have a look. :y
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im stuck at home tonight grand parent duties but I have sent him a message he says hes away until Tuesday Im off alot of next week dont know what to do.
Have a friend who is a good spanner man but is this for him
I am in a world where i need an idiots guide even the words you guys use confuse me :D
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OK .. been a change of plan on domestic front ..... :(
I have a meeting tomorrow night (wednesday) so will be leaving the house at 1830. That gives you a "window" of 1700 (ish) -1830 where I can reset the EML. As we are now leaving for Scotland early Thursday morning, you can then monitor it for a week until I get back next Tuesday when we can recheck the codes and do some limited live data checking.
or just wait until next week ... obviously if someone else can help in the meantime go for it ... :)
You have the number, just give me a ring if you intend to try and get to Wootty B tomorrow and I'll give you the address :)
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..... and get to Wootty B tomorrow and ......
??? ??? Err! You forgot Royal :y :y :y :y :y
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I dont get home from work until usually around 18.30 so wont make it but i am off work all of next week.
Not sure my mate will be able to help with his spanners as its obviously more technical than I expected I cant tell the difference between a spanner and a pair of socks so shows what help i am
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I dont get home from work until usually around 18.30 so wont make it but i am off work all of next week.
Not sure my mate will be able to help with his spanners as its obviously more technical than I expected I cant tell the difference between a spanner and a pair of socks so shows what help i am
Answered by PM ... however just to ensure the info I have given is not "wrong" I ask "those who know better" to comment on this..... what I wrote...... :)
Fuel trim being "wrong" should not, in itself, cause any major problems if the car is not misfiring .. if its misfiring as well as then you could do some damage to engine and or cats. I could be wrong though so ask in the forum .....
My concern would always be that the light being on will "hide" any other faults... which could be more serious.
:)
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Sounds about right Entwood :y
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so now what happens ?
The light has gone off and stayed off for the last (so far) two days.
The car was not effected performance wise with light on or off.
Curious or what ?
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Have I missed the post with the codes? :-\
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Have I missed the post with the codes? :-\
Yes. :P ;D
Here:
ok guys I have checked and rechecked this code uising the pedal test =
0 1 7 0
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Have I missed the post with the codes? :-\
Yes. :P ;D
Here:
ok guys I have checked and rechecked this code uising the pedal test =
0 1 7 0
Ahh, right... Was on my phone :-[ :-[
Anyway. That code may stay away, may come back. Either way nothing to worry too much about. Only real solution is to move the front lambda sensors ;)
There is a theory between a couple of us that if you drive in a more spirited fashion the codes don't seem to appear, but not confirmed/guaranteed ;)
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Front Lambdas? ???
This is an excessive fuel trim code, not cat efficiency. ;)
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Front Lambdas? ???
This is an excessive fuel trim code, not cat efficiency. ;)
Oh 'dangle berries'... I give up today :-[ :-X ::)
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Front Lambdas? ???
This is an excessive fuel trim code, not cat efficiency. ;)
Oh 'dangle berries'... I give up today :-[ :-X ::)
Yeah, I felt like that by about 9:30 ;D
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Front Lambdas? ???
This is an excessive fuel trim code, not cat efficiency. ;)
Oh 'dangle berries'... I give up today :-[ :-X ::)
Yeah, I felt like that by about 9:30 ;D
It's one of those days when I'm getting fed up ::)
Having issues dealing with insurance company (for business, not car) who keep changing their minds >:(
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Have I missed the post with the codes? :-\
Yes. :P ;D
Here:
ok guys I have checked and rechecked this code uising the pedal test =
0 1 7 0
Ahh, right... Was on my phone :-[ :-[
Anyway. That code may stay away, may come back. Either way nothing to worry too much about. Only real solution is to move the front lambda sensors ;)
There is a theory between a couple of us that if you drive in a more spirited fashion the codes don't seem to appear, but not confirmed/guaranteed ;)
Sorry, Mr Cripple, I believe you are talking bolax there ;D
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Front Lamda trim issues are usually down to fuelling, duff lamda or exhaust leaks IME.
Kevin Wood is a lamda junkie, so would be good to hear his views...
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Have I missed the post with the codes? :-\
Yes. :P ;D
Here:
ok guys I have checked and rechecked this code uising the pedal test =
0 1 7 0
Ahh, right... Was on my phone :-[ :-[
Anyway. That code may stay away, may come back. Either way nothing to worry too much about. Only real solution is to move the front lambda sensors ;)
There is a theory between a couple of us that if you drive in a more spirited fashion the codes don't seem to appear, but not confirmed/guaranteed ;)
Sorry, Mr Cripple, I believe you are talking bolax there ;D
Keep up ::) ::)
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Have I missed the post with the codes? :-\
Yes. :P ;D
Here:
ok guys I have checked and rechecked this code uising the pedal test =
0 1 7 0
Ahh, right... Was on my phone :-[ :-[
Anyway. That code may stay away, may come back. Either way nothing to worry too much about. Only real solution is to move the front lambda sensors ;)
There is a theory between a couple of us that if you drive in a more spirited fashion the codes don't seem to appear, but not confirmed/guaranteed ;)
Sorry, Mr Cripple, I believe you are talking bolax there ;D
Keep up ::) ::)
Leave me alone, I'm not well...
Didn't see the 4th page :-[
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OK guys thanks I think ? not to sure where the conversation went at one point another planet I think ? ;D
Not really any the wiser no light now for well over a week cars still driving like a dream as she always does so keep you post i guess ?
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Apologies. Back on topic. :y
Yep. Keep an eye on it. It might have been an intermittent fault, or just a ban batch of fuel. If it happens again, read the codes and see if it's still 0170 and we'll take it from there.
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Hi guys
So 20 days after the light went out as Im driving home from work last night it comes back on.
Armed with my new found knowledge I have done the pedal test it appears to be showing 2 codes one after the other :-
0170 and 0173
ok thats all the information i have as usual i bow to your knowledge so please help
Strangest thing is if it all is really fuel and mixture related why is it not showing in how the car runs. If she was coughing choking back firing and running like a pig i could understand it but nothing. I gave her a bit of a blast on the way to work and not a thing.
help !!!!
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Ok guys armed with the internet which as a rule sends me here anyway i believe the codes are defined as :-
0170 - Fuel Trim Bank 1
0173 - Fuel Trim Bank 2
I am beginning to wonder if the sensors are the problem (Lambada)
It seem strange that the light went out for over 2 weeks without being re-set and then suddenly comes back on again ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8mz9uOvFQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8mz9uOvFQA) ;)
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says it all really told you i was an idiot take it i spelt that weong as well ;D
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Not at all - I'm afraid I rely very heavily on the spill chequer :-[
All the best with your problem - wish I could offer something more constructive ::)