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Title: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 19:19:24
With a CID does the nav disc have to be inserted and read before the GPS indicator turns green :-\
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: Big_Al on 19 October 2011, 19:36:12
just taken my disc out Rob.   

Then switched ignition on  & selected NAV.   but you cannot select any destination etc. until disc is loaded.

Hope this is what you meant :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 19:38:57
RobG - No :) - it will get the details without the disk.

No green (or yellow), no (delboy voice) statalites.
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 19 October 2011, 19:39:14
So your screen is still working ok Al ? :y :D ;D (10 days)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: Big_Al on 19 October 2011, 19:39:46
bloody hell whens that edit function gonna be available.

right start again . .

Removed disc ..  switched on ignition  .. selected NAV     . .    GPS is showing green    ..   but you cannot select a destination etc.

Put disc in . . same as above but destination selectable




Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: Big_Al on 19 October 2011, 19:42:01
So your screen is still working ok Al ? :y :D ;D (10 days)


yep !   guess you'd better Patent that repair system Albs . .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 19:42:07
RobG - No :) - it will get the details without the disk.

No green (or yellow), no (delboy voice) statalites.
This one is struggling to aquire the satellites but if left on it will eventually aquire them and indicator will turn green. Any ideas??????????
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 19:43:06
RobG - No :) - it will get the details without the disk.

No green (or yellow), no (delboy voice) statalites.
This one is struggling to aquire the satellites but if left on it will eventually aquire them and indicator will turn green. Any ideas??????????
Poor signal.

(aerial or connection).
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 19:45:50
RobG - No :) - it will get the details without the disk.

No green (or yellow), no (delboy voice) statalites.
This one is struggling to aquire the satellites but if left on it will eventually aquire them and indicator will turn green. Any ideas??????????
Poor signal.

(aerial or connection).
Check everything from rear of HU back to aerial I presume ???
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 19:48:25
RobG - No :) - it will get the details without the disk.

No green (or yellow), no (delboy voice) statalites.
This one is struggling to aquire the satellites but if left on it will eventually aquire them and indicator will turn green. Any ideas??????????
Poor signal.

(aerial or connection).
Check everything from rear of HU back to aerial I presume ???
Sadly, yup.

If its been disconnected from batt for a while, it could be slow to initially grab the signal, but once acquired, should be fine next time.

Its own diags mode will tell you visible and sats in use. Code reader can also tell this.
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 19:53:20
Ah the magic dance of buttons to get it in to diag mode.. which I had to do about 15 times every time I wanted to select it because I could never remember the right magic dance  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 19:54:55
RobG - No :) - it will get the details without the disk.

No green (or yellow), no (delboy voice) statalites.
This one is struggling to aquire the satellites but if left on it will eventually aquire them and indicator will turn green. Any ideas??????????
Poor signal.

(aerial or connection).
Check everything from rear of HU back to aerial I presume ???
Sadly, yup.

If its been disconnected from batt for a while, it could be slow to initially grab the signal, but once acquired, should be fine next time.

Its own diags mode will tell you visible and sats in use. Code reader can also tell this.
Pray tell ???
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 19 October 2011, 20:03:45
Should give details of it in the handbook. :y  Dont tell me youve flogged all your handbooks ?  ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 20:04:48
Plan a route. Then press and hold MAIN for 7 seconds. Then press either MAIN or NAV again (may have to experience) - I'm after Nav Test Screen 1

First 2 numbers, top left - 00/00  (first is sats used, second is sats available)

From: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=89420.0
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 20:17:28
Scenario; the disc I`ve got is scratched to hell. Insert it and walk away for 20 minutes, satnav functions appear, but the GPS indicator will only turn green when I have said functions on screen. Eject disc, gps turns red. Insert disc, another wait of about 20 mins, functions appear. :-\
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 21:00:36
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 21:01:04
Should give details of it in the handbook. :y
Nope...
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 21:02:41
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.

I said that already .. well, technically, you said that already ;D

Although you've changed your mind about the instructions this time  :P
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 21:05:18
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.
Cheers TB. Will try again tomorrow & post back :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 21:06:46
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.

I said that already .. well, technically, you said that already ;D

Although you've changed your mind about the instructions this time  :P
That happens I lot when you do stuff purely from (poor) memory ;D.

RobG will bluff his way through with those destructions :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 21:08:00
That happens I lot when you do stuff purely from (poor) memory ;D.

I wouldn't know anything about that, my memory is .. wait, what am I doing here again?  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 21:08:22
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.

I said that already .. well, technically, you said that already ;D

Although you've changed your mind about the instructions this time  :P
That happens I lot when you do stuff purely from (poor) memory ;D.

RobG will bluff his way through with those destructions :y
I`ll have a darn good go ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 19 October 2011, 21:12:28
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.

I said that already .. well, technically, you said that already ;D

Although you've changed your mind about the instructions this time  :P
That happens I lot when you do stuff purely from (poor) memory ;D.

RobG will bluff his way through with those destructions :y
I`ll have a darn good go ;D ;D
Should add, when done, press and hold MAIN for 7s again, to get it out of diags. If that fails, CLEAR for 7s
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 21:13:30
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.

I said that already .. well, technically, you said that already ;D

Although you've changed your mind about the instructions this time  :P
That happens I lot when you do stuff purely from (poor) memory ;D.

RobG will bluff his way through with those destructions :y
I`ll have a darn good go ;D ;D
Should add, when done, press and hold MAIN for 7s again, to get it out of diags. If that fails, CLEAR for 7s
All this work just to know where I`m going ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 21:45:08
All this work just to know where I`m going ::) ;D

It's been a year and I still haven't fixed mine.. so I still don't know where I'm going. Or where I've been ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 21:51:36
All this work just to know where I`m going ::) ;D

It's been a year and I still haven't fixed mine.. so I still don't know where I'm going. Or where I've been ;D
Only bought it to get it up together and move on Aaron. Not keen on the old V6`s, not enough room to fart under the bonnet ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 19 October 2011, 22:00:13
 ;D There's bags of room! You should try working on the 300ZX.. that really does require little pixie arms with 15 joints in them.. ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 19 October 2011, 22:00:45
Had my first experience of underbonnet 4 pottery yesterday - helping Twiglet remove his engine.Couldnt believe how empty the engine bay looked with that little engine in there. Nowhere near big enough for the car. ;) :D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: twiglet on 19 October 2011, 22:42:33
Had my first experience of underbonnet 4 pottery yesterday - helping Twiglet remove his engine.Couldnt believe how empty the engine bay looked with that little engine in there. Nowhere near big enough for the car. ;) :D

That's cos you turned up after I'd done all the hard work and removed all the ancillaries!!  ::)

I dunno... He turn's up on his Bike, moans that he's cold, eats all my bacon and drinks all my coffee, watches while I struggle to move 2 AR25's 'down to the back of the yard' and then breaks off again!! I ask ya...  ::) :P
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 19 October 2011, 23:07:20
You call removing an alternator hard work. ::) ;D ;D.......bloody soft office workers. :P
I seem to remember getting conned into humping 2 AR25,s half a mile to the end of your garden,whereas when I had to move mine I got a hernia trying to move it myself. Aint you ever heard of help the aged ? ::)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: twiglet on 19 October 2011, 23:12:53
You call removing an alternator hard work. ::) ;D ;D.......bloody soft office workers. :P
I seem to remember getting conned into humping 2 AR25,s half a mile to the end of your garden,whereas when I had to move mine I got a hernia trying to move it myself. Aint you ever heard of help the aged ? ::)

I wish!!!  :o

I thought I was helping by taking you out for the day! break it, next time I'll leave you on the coach full of OAPs heading to Clacton for the day!!  :P
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 19 October 2011, 23:31:25
Funnily enough,I spent most of today in Chavtown Clacton. Plenty of old grandads who drive Omegas on those coaches you know.Maybe you should book yourself a trip on one.Could flog loads of bits. :D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 October 2011, 23:44:27
Rob, do you want an unscratched disc to try in it> It's old but (I think) in good nick :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 19 October 2011, 23:49:50
Rob, do you want an unscratched disc to try in it> It's old but (I think) in good nick :y
PM`d :)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 20 October 2011, 18:58:53
Press MAIN for 7s, then release. Then press NAV. If you dont get diags, breifly press MAIN again.

Its the first set of numbers - 3/5 means 3 sats in use, 5 visible.
Seems like I`ve got an intermittent connection. Got the GPS working ok this morning. Tried again this afternoon, no go. Got the diags. screen up, 2md & 3rd "pages" show no info, 1st page was showing 8 satellites visible, none in use :(
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 October 2011, 19:01:37
Rob, do you want an unscratched disc to try in it> It's old but (I think) in good nick :y
PM`d :)
Yep, sorted  ;) :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 20 October 2011, 19:03:24
Rob, do you want an unscratched disc to try in it> It's old but (I think) in good nick :y
PM`d :)
Yep, sorted  ;) :y
Cheers Paul :y :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 20 October 2011, 19:04:57
Checked nav ariel connections ?
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 20 October 2011, 19:08:04
The one in the cage tends to be most troublesome
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 20 October 2011, 19:12:37
Checked nav ariel connections ?
Job for the morning. :) Getting a bit bored `cause I`m used to breaking `em, not admiring them ;D ;D ;D ;D The more I look at it, can`t believe the condition of it 8)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 21 October 2011, 12:38:15
Update on the problem. Received a navdisc today from Lazydocker (cheers Paul, pm sent). Inserted it, voila 8) satnav now working perfect. A point to mention though, prior to using the "new" disc my GPS indicator stayed red whether the faulty disc was inserted or not but as soon as the replacement disc was inserted the HU downloaded the software from it and the GPS indicator went green. It appears that the faulty disc was in some way preventing the receiver from getting any satellite signals.
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: albitz on 21 October 2011, 12:39:39
Nice one Rob. :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 21 October 2011, 12:42:40
Nice one Rob. :y
CDC3 now Albs >:(
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: aaronjb on 21 October 2011, 13:43:55
Update on the problem. Received a navdisc today from Lazydocker (cheers Paul, pm sent). Inserted it, voila 8) satnav now working perfect. A point to mention though, prior to using the "new" disc my GPS indicator stayed red whether the faulty disc was inserted or not but as soon as the replacement disc was inserted the HU downloaded the software from it and the GPS indicator went green. It appears that the faulty disc was in some way preventing the receiver from getting any satellite signals.

I presume the problem was something to do with it trying to acquire a 'lock' without being able to read the CD; the diag page you got to showed it could 'see' 8 satellites but was using '0' - presumably because it could see satellites known to be over the western hemisphere (say) but thought you were elsewhere, and got confused?

I wish mine were that easy to fix.. ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 21 October 2011, 14:29:54
Update on the problem. Received a navdisc today from Lazydocker (cheers Paul, pm sent). Inserted it, voila 8) satnav now working perfect. A point to mention though, prior to using the "new" disc my GPS indicator stayed red whether the faulty disc was inserted or not but as soon as the replacement disc was inserted the HU downloaded the software from it and the GPS indicator went green. It appears that the faulty disc was in some way preventing the receiver from getting any satellite signals.

I presume the problem was something to do with it trying to acquire a 'lock' without being able to read the CD; the diag page you got to showed it could 'see' 8 satellites but was using '0' - presumably because it could see satellites known to be over the western hemisphere (say) but thought you were elsewhere, and got confused?

I wish mine were that easy to fix.. ;D
;D ;D ;D
Just need to sort the CDC3 now :(
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 21 October 2011, 14:35:05
CDC3 pretty simple :y

Good news RobG, and useful info re disk :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 21 October 2011, 14:40:35
CDC3 pretty simple :y

Good news RobG, and useful info re disk :y
Just trying to source one is the hard bit TB ;D ;D Easy enough to replace just a tad fiddly with the PCB
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 21 October 2011, 14:41:35
Just trying to source one is the hard bit TB
Thats because I regularly go around buying them all up ::)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: RobG on 21 October 2011, 14:44:04
Just trying to source one is the hard bit TB
Thats because I regularly go around buying them all up ::)
Now why doesn`t that surprise me. It`s a race between you and Andy (VXLV6) is it ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 21 October 2011, 17:02:44
I couldn't possibly comment, RobG ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: VXL V6 on 21 October 2011, 17:41:43
I'm retiring from fixing them now! Too many broken ones and not enough parts left to fix them! got three 2013's here now, all with faulty CDC3's and NAV Lasers.....  oh and the odd broken bezel. All of our cars have them in now (two with CID's) so it seems daft to spend any more money on parts now.
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2011, 10:33:35
I'm retiring from fixing them now! Too many broken ones and not enough parts left to fix them! got three 2013's here now, all with faulty CDC3's and NAV Lasers.....  oh and the odd broken bezel. All of our cars have them in now (two with CID's) so it seems daft to spend any more money on parts now.
I'm still hoovering up the odd CDC3, due to my fascination with CDRs ::)

Sssshhh, don't tel Dave DND ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 October 2011, 12:14:36
Mind you, two more working Telematics would be nice  ::)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: Dave DND on 22 October 2011, 12:57:26
Quote
Sssshhh, don't tel Dave DND


 :P
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 October 2011, 14:06:25
Mind you, two more working Telematics would be nice  ::)

Then a couple of 2015 'Omega anthracite' bezels....
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2011, 00:35:55
Mind you, two more working Telematics would be nice  ::)

Then a couple of 2015 'Omega anthracite' bezels....
I have one of those, not wrecked either :y
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: VXL V6 on 30 October 2011, 21:15:45
Mind you, two more working Telematics would be nice  ::)

Then a couple of 2015 'Omega anthracite' bezels....
I have one of those, not wrecked either :y
Got a working telematics to go with it?  ::)
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: TheBoy on 31 October 2011, 18:22:14
Mind you, two more working Telematics would be nice  ::)

Then a couple of 2015 'Omega anthracite' bezels....
I have one of those, not wrecked either :y
Got a working telematics to go with it?  ::)
No!  But I do have 3 of yours here. But none work well ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Nav Query
Post by: VXL V6 on 31 October 2011, 21:21:33
Mind you, two more working Telematics would be nice  ::)

Then a couple of 2015 'Omega anthracite' bezels....
I have one of those, not wrecked either :y
Got a working telematics to go with it?  ::)
No!  But I do have 3 of yours here. But none work well ;D
It's good to be consistent!