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Title: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Vamps on 27 October 2011, 22:14:30
Wrong doors, switches, rear lights, seats, dash top, door hinges...............if this was being restored it would have been done with genuine parts, hardly the museum piece the seller suggests.......... ::) ::) ::)

No point in the younger members looking :D :D

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201143424487563/sort/locasc/usedcars/model/mini/make/austin/postcode/dl179bb/quicksearch/true/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Andy B on 27 October 2011, 22:19:54
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No point in the younger members looking :D :D
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What is it?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Vamps on 27 October 2011, 22:22:17
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No point in the younger members looking :D :D
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What is it?  ::) ::)

Ha Ha Ha.......... :D :D :D
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Andy B on 27 October 2011, 22:25:22
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No point in the younger members looking :D :D
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What is it?  ::) ::)

Ha Ha Ha.......... :D :D :D

 :y :y :y
I'll show it to a bloke at work. He's restoring an early Mini Cooper and is pretty clued up on Minis  :y
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: millwall on 27 October 2011, 22:29:37
keep fit windows  no air con  thats not a car ;D
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: henryd on 27 October 2011, 22:31:43
I reckon the only bits of that mini that date from 1963 are the number plates :D
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Vamps on 27 October 2011, 22:35:04
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No point in the younger members looking :D :D
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What is it?  ::) ::)

Ha Ha Ha.......... :D :D :D

 :y :y :y
I'll show it to a bloke at work. He's restoring an early Mini Cooper and is pretty clued up on Minis  :y

Looks like been done up with newer parts, or stolen and on an old logbook / test etc, a trick often done with old Land Rovers, still see vehicle Papers/ID's for sale on ebay...... :(
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: r1 on 27 October 2011, 23:03:54
well i dont know much about minis but even i know the rear lights are wrong
and i think that number plate is not orginal and is a age related plate.
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 27 October 2011, 23:11:14
well i dont know much about minis but even i know the rear lights are wrongand i think that number plate is not orginal and is a age related plate.

And the dash, seats, door cards, wheels (current), chrome shite on it, steering wheel and loads more i reckon. Looks like a sack of shite.
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: PhilRich on 27 October 2011, 23:28:31
This might help clear up some discrepancies  :y

(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab197/philrich1064/morris-mini-1963.gif)
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: PhilRich on 27 October 2011, 23:37:13
Checking Google, i've found several sites alluding to the 'Radford Mini De-Ville'. These cars were coachbuilt by Radford & have some striking similarities to the one linked by Vamps :-\
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2011, 00:17:51
Checking Google, i've found several sites alluding to the 'Radford Mini De-Ville'. These cars were coachbuilt by Radford & have some striking similarities to the one linked by Vamps :-\

No, that is a common or garden Mini re badged? something not right with it, suspect re badged and being sold by someone who genuinely believes it is what it is supposed to be, going to send him an email....
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Vamps on 28 October 2011, 00:28:00
Email sent, can not put it on here cos it went through his system so not in my sent items... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: YZ250 on 28 October 2011, 08:31:15
Checking Google, i've found several sites alluding to the 'Radford Mini De-Ville'. These cars were coachbuilt by Radford & have some striking similarities to the one linked by Vamps :-\

No, that is a common or garden Mini re badged? something not right with it, suspect re badged and being sold by someone who genuinely believes it is what it is supposed to be, going to send him an email....

I had a 1968 Mini but mine had sliding front windows. I remember this very well as the sliders used to fill up with moss.  ::) ::)  Also had a Cooper 'S' and 1275 GT  :y

Regards
Alan
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Matchless on 28 October 2011, 11:27:25
aside from the cosmetic tart-up....
where have the external door hinges gone?
or the sliding windows?
or the bit of string which served as the inside door handle?
and the ankle straps?
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 October 2011, 13:04:46
Rear lights are from a later model.
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: hotel21 on 28 October 2011, 13:16:07
Just shown the pics to an old school tech at work who used to play with these things back in the day. First things that caught his eye was wipers sweep the wrong way apparently. He then worked his way through the door hinges, check straps, door trim, dash, clocks, foot starter, ignition key on dash not column, foot washer pump etc then onto exhaust exit, lamps, wheels and numerous other bits and bobs. He also said early rear glass was smaller as the C pillars were wider on early shells. Said it was tidy enough but far from a 1963. 
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Andy B on 28 October 2011, 13:25:01
.... First things that caught his eye was wipers sweep the wrong way apparently.  ......

A lot of older 'British' cars used to sweep the wrong way leaving a huge unswept area in front of the driver  ???. This ... clicky (http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/photos-rallytests/morris_mini_cooper_1275_s_61.htm) is a little newer & sweep the other way.
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: hotel21 on 28 October 2011, 13:36:55
That's what the fella means Andy. The pseudo 1963 car is a much later shell with wipers now sweeping the 'correct' way.  :y
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2011, 14:15:59
He makes a big issue of it being tax exempt straight away. Makes me wonder if he's ringed it to make it so? ???
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: sierrapaul on 28 October 2011, 20:26:33
theres no way its a 63 more like an 83 as its a mk3 shell.i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: dbug on 28 October 2011, 21:22:58
Couldn't agree more - thats not a 63 mini - so much is wrong!  My wife (ex) had a 64 mini and I used to race a 1293 "S" in the 60s so know a lot about minis of that age.  Still got a load of parts/spares for minis of that era - perhaps the guy should have contacted me  :) :) ;)
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Andy H on 28 October 2011, 21:46:23
and the central speedometer  :-\
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: millwall on 28 October 2011, 22:38:42
so to sum up its a wrong un an absolute sh!tter and not worth worrying about ;D
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: jerry on 28 October 2011, 23:23:30
yep, certainly bears little resemblance to the mini I remember as a kid which was my dad's first family car, especially the interior, its simply all wrong!You know, even now I can remember the smell of the old mini's pseudo leather skyblue vinyl seats and those funny catches on the sliding windows ;D
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 28 October 2011, 23:27:42
so to sum up its a wrong un an absolute sh!tter and not worth worrying about ;D
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 :y :y
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Vamps on 29 October 2011, 00:36:09
Email sent, can not put it on here cos it went through his system so not in my sent items... ::) ::) ::)

Surprise surprise, no reply to my email...... ::) ::) ::) Defo a wrong car.... :(
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 29 October 2011, 12:51:41
Email sent, can not put it on here cos it went through his system so not in my sent items... ::) ::) ::)

Surprise surprise, no reply to my email...... ::) ::) ::) Defo a wrong car.... :(

What if we ALL send hime an email with our thoughts on his "classic"  :D
Title: Re: No way is this a 1963 car........
Post by: Andy B on 29 October 2011, 13:07:32
Email sent, can not put it on here cos it went through his system so not in my sent items... ::) ::) ::)

Surprise surprise, no reply to my email...... ::) ::) ::) Defo a wrong car.... :(

What if we ALL send hime an email with our thoughts on his "classic"  :D

 ......... and ask him/her which bit is still from 1963  ;D ;D ;D