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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: fiend61 on 01 November 2011, 07:43:02

Title: ncdc
Post by: fiend61 on 01 November 2011, 07:43:02
hi all

am i right in saying that the ncdc 2015 has a built in phone whereas the ncdc 2013 doesnt ??

tia
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: twiglet on 01 November 2011, 08:38:00
No.

The 2015 and 2013 are identical in their functionality, except the 2015 has the abililty to be connected to the Telematics phone system.  This is a separate box that lives in the glovebox.

The fascia's of the 2 units are very slighty different, but the 2015 will function quite happily with or without the telematics.

HTH  :y
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: tunnie on 01 November 2011, 09:55:06
^^ what he says, telematics unit is rather large, it fills the glovebox!
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: twiglet on 01 November 2011, 09:56:55
^^ what he says, telematics unit is rather large, it fills the glovebox!

Very true, but much more useful than the cr*p that most people fill their gloveboxes with!  :D
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: tunnie on 01 November 2011, 10:06:10
^^ what he says, telematics unit is rather large, it fills the glovebox!

Very true, but much more useful than the cr*p that most people fill their gloveboxes with!  :D

Again, very true. Seen some modifications to mount it in the boot compartment, makes more sense there, as it basically renders the glove box useless.

Would not mind a 2015 for myself + telematics, but they go for silly money!
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: tigers_gonads on 01 November 2011, 10:57:35
What is telematics ?
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: tunnie on 01 November 2011, 11:00:33
Phone.. takes SIM card, make calls  :y
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: twiglet on 01 November 2011, 12:09:09
^^ what he says, telematics unit is rather large, it fills the glovebox!

Very true, but much more useful than the cr*p that most people fill their gloveboxes with!  :D

Again, very true. Seen some modifications to mount it in the boot compartment, makes more sense there, as it basically renders the glove box useless.

Would not mind a 2015 for myself + telematics, but they go for silly money!

I recently bought a 2015+CID+Telematics for mine...

Cost me £900!!  :o But then I did get a 2003 MV6 Estate for free!!  ;D
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: tunnie on 01 November 2011, 12:15:52
Thats way to do it, but with 4 Omegas on the drive, one Nissan and a BMW bike, I think my parents would start to complain if we got a 5th Omega ;D
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: twiglet on 01 November 2011, 12:18:21
I can relate to that... At the last count I've got 5 Omega's, a Vectra C, a Cavalier and a motorbike!!  :o  The good news is it's my driveway, so I only get ear ache off the wife!!  :y
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 01 November 2011, 18:45:29
Hmmm, not entirely correct info here.

The *ONLY* difference between 2013 and 2015 is the legends on some of the buttons and the sticker on the top.
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: VXL V6 on 01 November 2011, 20:35:56
One other difference

Have you noticed how the software handles TP broadcasts differently when a Telematics is connected TB?  ;) Obviously if you depair and remove the Telematics I guess the software reverts back.
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: twiglet on 01 November 2011, 21:15:50
Hmmm, not entirely correct info here.

The *ONLY* difference between 2013 and 2015 is the legends on some of the buttons and the sticker on the top.

So are you saying that a 2013 will work with a telematics unit connected to it TB?
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: MaxV6 on 02 November 2011, 00:50:02
yes james,  my understanding form conversations along these lines some time back, is that when given the appropriate talking to by TB.....    essentially the only difference is the graphic icon on the "home" button pair, and it's function when a telematics is installed..... 

it's been on my shopping list for the day after i win the lottery , ever since i got the Mv6...    it's one of the many things i REALLY miss about both my previous Elites....

seen a few veccie NCDC2013/5 units on fleabay with the phone unit,  and have been wondering if it was worth getting one ....   as a set,  in case TB can work magic on them to stick em in a Mig.    swapping the faceplate obviously.....       and working some wiring magic to put the unit somewhere more sensible.... 

i believe more units come up in germany than here though....



Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 02 November 2011, 19:18:36
One other difference

Have you noticed how the software handles TP broadcasts differently when a Telematics is connected TB?  ;) Obviously if you depair and remove the Telematics I guess the software reverts back.
No, I haven't.  Usually disable TP, as I don't want BBC C&W interrupting my Radio 4 when I'm nowhere near Warks ;D

What does it do different?
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: VXL V6 on 02 November 2011, 19:29:15
One other difference

Have you noticed how the software handles TP broadcasts differently when a Telematics is connected TB?  ;) Obviously if you depair and remove the Telematics I guess the software reverts back.
No, I haven't.  Usually disable TP, as I don't want BBC C&W interrupting my Radio 4 when I'm nowhere near Warks ;D

What does it do different?

Well as you don't have a TP button anymore the unit has to give you the option to cancel the TP announcement another way. So a message pops up on the screen (well it does on my CID) allowing you to click reject
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 02 November 2011, 19:46:15
One other difference

Have you noticed how the software handles TP broadcasts differently when a Telematics is connected TB?  ;) Obviously if you depair and remove the Telematics I guess the software reverts back.
No, I haven't.  Usually disable TP, as I don't want BBC C&W interrupting my Radio 4 when I'm nowhere near Warks ;D

What does it do different?

Well as you don't have a TP button anymore the unit has to give you the option to cancel the TP announcement another way. So a message pops up on the screen (well it does on my CID) allowing you to click reject
Pretty sure it does on 2013 as well (or more accurately, NCDR1100, which is what I'm more familiar with ::))
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: VXL V6 on 02 November 2011, 19:58:29
Only the unit with a paired telematics in the V6 does this, the other two without telematics don't, you just have to tap the TP button to cancel the broadcast.
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 02 November 2011, 20:50:27
Only the unit with a paired telematics in the V6 does this, the other two without telematics don't, you just have to tap the TP button to cancel the broadcast.
I shall enable it in TBE, see what happens :y
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 04 November 2011, 22:15:27
Well shit in my hat and punch it

That VXL V6 is a saddo. Absolutely correct in what he says. But still a saddo ;D

To get rid of TP bulletin, you need to press TP (or * if you're actually using a 2015 as a 2013), and no option on the screen to get rid.

Good info VXL :y
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: VXL V6 on 04 November 2011, 22:23:01
I only noticed because I find it annoying in the V6!  :-[ ;D
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 04 November 2011, 22:29:31
I only noticed because I find it annoying in the V6!  :-[ ;D
Annoying enough I would consider setting ncdc for telematics ;D

Only I dont use TP ;D
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: Lazydocker on 07 November 2011, 00:38:35
I only noticed because I find it annoying in the V6!  :-[ ;D
Annoying enough I would consider setting ncdc for telematics ;D

Only I dont use TP ;D
Tend to use TP in conjunction with other traffic monitoring options and have gotten used to the reject option on the screen now
Title: Re: ncdc
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2011, 17:40:38
Well, as you cannot reject a TP broadcast from the steering wheel, its rather useless on a 2013. A right PITA.  Reason enough, if I had to use it, to tell my stereo its actually a 2015 ::)