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Can anyone recommend a Part P registered electrician who works in the Nottingham area?
I need a cooker point putting in asap for my Wife's parents.
I could do the work myself but it would still need to be certified.
Thanks.
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Can anyone recommend a Part P registered electrician who works in the Nottingham area?
I need a cooker point putting in asap for my Wife's parents.
I could do the work myself but it would still need to be certified.
Thanks.
I still do all my own electrical work. No regulations will stop that for me. I can work all day on 3 phase equipment at work, but I am not allowed to do work in my own home. Stuff them is my opinion.
Sorry for the rant. :y
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Can anyone recommend a Part P registered electrician who works in the Nottingham area?
I need a cooker point putting in asap for my Wife's parents.
I could do the work myself but it would still need to be certified.
Thanks.
I still do all my own electrical work. No regulations will stop that for me. I can work all day on 3 phase equipment at work, but I am not allowed to do work in my own home. Stuff them is my opinion.
Sorry for the rant. :y
Same here fella, won't stop me in my house either.
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Do it yourself :y
If you need to know anything, stick it on here or pm me ;):y
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... and the Part P bod that comes to certify your work is a spotty yoof, duller than a dud bulb, whose only industry experience is the training course he went on last year.
A miracle could happen in that boy's hip pocket and all he'd do is scratch his arse
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Bear in mind that such work would be notifiable for building regulations control so you run the risk of it being picked up should the house subsequently be sold. Depends when and if there are plans to sell the house and how obvious it is that it's a new installation at the point in time, IMHO. If you are just replacing like for like you'd probably get away with it, IMHO.
I know someone who recently trained as a electrician, and he was employed doing and signing off part-P work unsupervised from the day he walked through the door, scratching his @rse. ::)
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Technically, I believe, you can't just get someone in to certify your own work if you haven't notified building control, as they'd be signing off that they did the work and doing the notification?
That was how I understood it, anyway. Of course you can notify the BC and then pay to have it inspected & tested, but when I checked that was going to cost almost as much as just having a spark do the work!
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On the general subject of Part P I'm torn.. I can see *why* the rules were brought in; I just have to look at the standard of work the previous owners of my last flat did, and the previous owners of my parents house (luckily my current house is unmolested in entirety from 1970 when it was built).. but really for anyone with 2/3rds of a brain, wiring is fairly straightforward.
The only tricky bit is doing the diversity calcs and cable rating stuff correctly - even then, two of the three sparks who came to quote on the garage pretty much just stuck their finger in the air and then picked cables smaller than I was comfortable with them using (e.g. one wanted to use <10mm2 SWA when I'd have gone for 16mm, we split the difference on 10mm2 SWA in the end..)
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Agreed.
The problem is, it's the idiots with 1/3rd of a brain that are the most inclined to "have a go".. And the fact that holes large enough to drive a bus through got negotiated in the regs to protect certain bodies of "incompetent persons" from having to comply - IMHO.
And yes, I'm sure "rule of thumb" takes over as soon as the certificate hits the doormat, in most cases. Nothing especially wrong with that, IMHO, as long as the installation ends up safe. If every installation was designed from first principles nothing would ever get done.
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And yes, I'm sure "rule of thumb" takes over as soon as the certificate hits the doormat, in most cases. Nothing especially wrong with that, IMHO, as long as the installation ends up safe. If every installation was designed from first principles nothing would ever get done.
Very true - and I (generally :)) respect the opinion of people who've been doing it a while; one of the electricians had been one for longer than I've been alive.. though I still disagree that 6mm SWA, buried in a 32mm conduit, would have enough headroom to run a 20A radial, 6A lighting, 20A commando socket (on it's own radial) and a 16A feed for a water heater.. even taking diversity into account (which clearly we are, as the main breaker on the feed is only 48A, if memory serves)
Nothing to do with me already having a reel of 10mm SWA, and it being the biggest size I could physically stuff down the conduit.. ;D
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There are no plans to sell the house during her parent's lifetime and afaik Building Control are not in the habit of raiding properties to check the wiring ;D
I should think therefore, I could do the job myself and if at sometime in the future the work was discovered, claim no knowledge of who did it and get it checked and certified then.
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part p was only brought in due an mp's daughter getting electrocuted via a sink that wasnt earthed :o who done it :-\ :-\ :-\ not an electrician but an unquailfied kitchen fitter, which then meant that all regs changed and fully quailified sparks like myself had to dig in their pockets to get yet another piece of paper to say that they were competent >:( >:( >:( >:(
rant over :y
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oh and aaronjb depending on length of cable run and the loading you have in the garage i would say yes the 6mm xple swa would do with a type b or type c 32amp breaker, 2 core 6mm swa is capable of carrying 60amp :y
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oh and aaronjb depending on length of cable run and the loading you have in the garage i would say yes the 6mm xple swa would do with a type b or type c 32amp breaker, 2 core 6mm swa is capable of carrying 60amp :y
It's about a 10m run (well, we got 10m of cable and had ~0.75m left after lopping the end off.. when I say 'we' I mean the electrician naturally, as he did that bit while I was at work :)).. at least 10mm has decent headroom for the future ;)
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I thought you were allowed to replace a cable or a fixing if damaged without needing it to be notified. So provided there was a socket there before, and you felt it and the cable were damaged, then you could replace them.
Ken
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Any modification to a circuit or new circuit in a Kitchen is designated as certifiable Electrical work and subject to Building Regs (for which you would have to pay).
You cannot do the work yourself and then get a Part P Electrician to certify it.No self respecting Electrician who has to pay £££'s per year to be regulated would sign off someone elses work as it would be illegal in any event.
Failure to comply with the Building Regulations is a criminal offence and local authorities have the power to require the removal or alteration of work that does not comply. Large fines and prosecution have now been undertaken by the government against non registered electricians and DIY enthusiasts who have ignored the new laws. Fines during prosecution for non registered electricians have been as high as £20,000 with possible imprisonment.
Chances are if you do it yourself no one will ever be any the wiser unless you happen to electrocute someone and then you'll end up in prison.
Or when you come to sell the house and the purchasers solicitor asks what work has been done under 'pre contract enquiries' and you'll have to avoid the question or lie !
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I am not sure about all the rules as such, just that as I understand it you can not do any electrical work yourself :-\ :-\
Before fitting, well as part of having fitted a new kitchen in 2002 I had new circuits fitted by a qualified electrician, not that I have any paperwork ::) not the best of jobs in places... :-X
I, more recently, put a new circuit with 4 double sockets in Miss Vamps bedroom, our house in 1930's and we do not plan to sell any time soon, some of the current wiring is old but newer, ie we have some modern sockets, but fed at 5 amps.. and I recently replaced some lead lighting cable, bit of a mish mash really, but how can they say what I have done since the new regs and not before? I even have a roll of 10mm cable, in old colour which I was going to use for the shower, if or when we need to change and update.....Any work I have done is better than anything original in the house, upstairs bedrooms are all radial wired, but little load, hence why I put a new circuit in Miss Vamps bedroom for all the electrical stuff she wants now and in the future..... ::) ::)
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.... I even have a roll of 10mm cable, in old colour which ....
So do I ;) ;) ;)
Rules will have probably changed again before I need worry about anything I've recently done in our house ......... not that I've done much recently. ::) ::) ::)
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Part P was introduced in 2005 prior to that the industry was pretty much self regulating and you could get away with doing most stuff yourself.
The worst houses i have seen are those owned by DIY enthusiasts.
Problem with most domestic Electrics is that it is fairly simple to get something to work,many appliances will work even if you wire them up back to front,you can get the neutral and live round the wrong way but you still have a circuit that will work but the appliance/light will still be live even when switched off.
Most people automatically assume that if it works its ok.
Chances are you can do your own work and get stuff to work and no one will ever be any the wiser,but if you come to sell the house that is when people ask questions and may ask for certificates.
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You can do what ever you want to electrics , but it must ( should ?) be checked by a certified person. I did a house renovation a few years back, I specified on the Building notice adding a cooker socket and fridge cable, plus "refresh" the installation. It appeared that the Building Inspector head would do the check, however I gave them an easy alternative in saying I would get it checked by a part P person and send in a copy of the certificate. They were happy with that. Building Control are primarily concerned with our safety, not form filling unless necessary.
Ken
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Part P was introduced in 2005 prior to that the industry was pretty much self regulating and you could get away with doing most stuff yourself.
The worst houses i have seen are those owned by DIY enthusiasts with no clue as to what they were doing.
Problem with most domestic Electrics is that it is fairly simple to get something to work,many appliances will work even if you wire them up back to front,you can get the neutral and live round the wrong way but you still have a circuit that will work but the appliance/light will still be live even when switched off.
Most people automatically assume that if it works its ok.
Chances are you can do your own work and get stuff to work and no one will ever be any the wiser,but if you come to sell the house that is when people ask questions and may ask for certificates.
Qualifaction, a lot of DIY people are professional and their work is extremely competant
Ken
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The Part P Certification scheme providers will not allow their members to 'sign off' other peoples work,unless that work has been supervised by that member.
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You can do what ever you want to electrics , but it must ( should ?) be checked by a certified person. I did a house renovation a few years back, I specified on the Building notice adding a cooker socket and fridge cable, plus "refresh" the installation. It appeared that the Building Inspector head would do the check, however I gave them an easy alternative in saying I would get it checked by a part P person and send in a copy of the certificate. They were happy with that. Building Control are primarily concerned with our safety, not form filling unless necessary.
Ken
That takes me back.... ::) i bought my first house in 1980 ish ::) I needed some extra sockets in the front room, I fitted a new circuit, but got an electrician friend to 'mega' check the wiring and all was well.... :y
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The Part P Certification scheme providers will not allow their members to 'sign off' other peoples work,unless that work has been supervised by that member.
While I agree that there must be some horrendous leccy installs in DIYers houses, Part P criminalises professionals (as stated above) who are qualified to play with 3 ph 440v(it was at sea) 415V all day long at work, but aren't then deemed capable of extending a ring main etc at home. Another farcical law imposed as a knee jerk reaction.
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The Part P Certification scheme providers will not allow their members to 'sign off' other peoples work,unless that work has been supervised by that member.
While I agree that there must be some horrendous leccy installs in DIYers houses, Part P criminalises professionals (as stated above) who are qualified to play with 3 ph 440v(it was at sea) 415V all day long at work, but aren't then deemed capable of extending a ring main etc at home. Another farcical law imposed as a knee jerk reaction.
H&S or whatever gone OTT, I just get on and do what I do, I am quite able and by the time anyone checks I will be passed caring or dead, an attitude I also use at work, so bring it on........ :D :D :D
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Another closed shop that stops competent people from doing their own electrical work. After completing an electronics apprenticeship which included doing wiring for aircraft, which had to passed by inspection, so you made sure you got it right and also having an HNC in Electrical and Electronic engineering, I'm not allowed to work on my own electrics.
I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course. Fortunately all the changes I made to my house were done in the 1990's and I don't need to do anything further.
At the time the regulations were brought in somebody did a law on unintended consequences and worked out due to the extra mileage that electricians would be doing, more of them would be killed in accidents on the UK's roads than lives would be saved from electrocution and fires through faulty electrical wiring. :o :o
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Another farcical law imposed as a knee jerk reaction.
so very true !!!!!!!!!!!! also another way of getting money for yet another piece of paper >:( >:( the courses we (electricians) have to go on now to be declared "competent" is cr@p last christmas i had to renew several certificates one of the worst being a steps and ladders course, basically an 8 hour course telling us how to use steps and ladders!!!!! cost of course £80
the other thing about electrical certificates most of them are not a one off payment as the certificates only last for a certain period of time or become superceded by a newer regulation so back to the piggy bank again!!!!
ok i can see some of the reasoning behind some of the certificates to keep us (electricians) and the customers safe etc but the end result will always be the same the more we (electricians) have to pay out for courses etc will be passed on to the customer in higher prices !!!!
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Do it all in small bits and you can do pretty much anyhting you like thansk to the rather starnge caviats of 'small jobs' and 'maintenance'!
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I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course.
Exactly. It's primarily another "jobs for the boys" protection scheme with safety a long way down the list of priorities. Just another LPGA/UKLPG, although with a few less cowboys, thankfully.
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Do it all in small bits and you can do pretty much anyhting you like thansk to the rather starnge caviats of 'small jobs' and 'maintenance'!
I believe that doesn't extend to certain areas of the house, however - namely anywhere there is water or damp (the kitchen, bathroom and 'detached outbuildings')..
So yes, you can repair sockets & wiring elsewhere as long as the repair is less than the replacement of an entire ring/radial, but not touch anything in the kitchen, bathroom or a detached garage..
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I forgot to add - in my case I was lucky that the third electrician I found was happy to work 'with' me on stuff, initially the idea was he'd supervise as I worked .. though the way it ended up - I pulled the boards off the walls in the garage one night, he ran all the wiring while I was at work, I put the boards back up and drilled holes for the cable exits the next night, and then he attached all the sockets, CU etc while I was at work again..
I thought it would have taken longer, but apparently either I work slowly or he works very quickly :lol:
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Another closed shop that stops competent people from doing their own electrical work. After completing an electronics apprenticeship which included doing wiring for aircraft, which had to passed by inspection, so you made sure you got it right and also having an HNC in Electrical and Electronic engineering, I'm not allowed to work on my own electrics.
I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course. Fortunately all the changes I made to my house were done in the 1990's and I don't need to do anything further.
At the time the regulations were brought in somebody did a law on unintended consequences and worked out due to the extra mileage that electricians would be doing, more of them would be killed in accidents on the UK's roads than lives would be saved from electrocution and fires through faulty electrical wiring. :o :o
Your in a similar position to me Rod :)
I left school at 16 and did a 12 month YTS scheme ( electronics / welding / machine work ) and walked out with a city in guilds part 1 in all of them.
Joined the RAF as a lecky mechanic at 17.
Went back to RAF college to do me tech course.
Left after 6 1/2 years and did my 15th edition and set up in business.
The 1st 14 years doing domestic electrics / alarm systems / cctv.
2004 I put most of the electrics on the back burner and throwed myself into the alarms / cctv.
Never bothered doing the 16th edition or part rather P. I just got the regs update book to see what has changed and applied it to any jobs I did :y
Lost the business ( officially :'() last May and currently running down 12 months of bankruptcy ( thats why im a stress head on here because its doing my head in ;D ;D)
Hopefully back working for myself next May.
To round it off, i've been told that I now have to go and sit in a classroom with a bunch of kids and totally redo the lot including the new 17th edition ::) :'( :'(
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I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course.
Exactly. It's primarily another "jobs for the boys" protection scheme with safety a long way down the list of priorities. Just another LPGA/UKLPG, although with a few less cowboys, thankfully.
Sadly not and I would say potentialy more from some of the work I have seen!
None of the regs guarantee compitency as do none of the organisations that these contractors sign upto
Part P states: Reasonable provision shall be made in the design and installation of electrical installations in order to protect persons operating, maintaining or altering the installations from fire or injury
Work affected by Part P is subject to notification to, and inspection by, building control bodies. However, calling in a building control officer takes time and costs money. The solution to this problem is self-certification.
This is where the compitent persons scheme comes in and why electricians opt to join at cost one of the organisations which oversees it (as they could quite happily use the building control service at greater cost).
NONE of this gives any guarantee that the install is good and upto standard (any anybody who thinks it does is living in cloud cuckoo land).
However, the Part P regs are actauly pretty slack and many of them you can drive a bus through.
In summary, its as much use as Gas Safe.......and we ALL know how crap they are at meeting the regs!
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To round it off, i've been told that I now have to go and sit in a classroom with a bunch of kids and totally redo the lot including the new 17th edition ::) :'( :'(
But if you didn't you might do something totally heinous like put your cable clips at the incorrect spacing... ;) ;D
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Another closed shop that stops competent people from doing their own electrical work. After completing an electronics apprenticeship which included doing wiring for aircraft, which had to passed by inspection, so you made sure you got it right and also having an HNC in Electrical and Electronic engineering, I'm not allowed to work on my own electrics.
I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course. Fortunately all the changes I made to my house were done in the 1990's and I don't need to do anything further.
At the time the regulations were brought in somebody did a law on unintended consequences and worked out due to the extra mileage that electricians would be doing, more of them would be killed in accidents on the UK's roads than lives would be saved from electrocution and fires through faulty electrical wiring. :o :o
Your in a similar position to me Rod :)
I left school at 16 and did a 12 month YTS scheme ( electronics / welding / machine work ) and walked out with a city in guilds part 1 in all of them.
Joined the RAF as a lecky mechanic at 17.
Went back to RAF college to do me tech course.
Left after 6 1/2 years and did my 15th edition and set up in business.
The 1st 14 years doing domestic electrics / alarm systems / cctv.
2004 I put most of the electrics on the back burner and throwed myself into the alarms / cctv.
Never bothered doing the 16th edition or part rather P. I just got the regs update book to see what has changed and applied it to any jobs I did :y
Lost the business ( officially :'() last May and currently running down 12 months of bankruptcy ( thats why im a stress head on here because its doing my head in ;D ;D)
Hopefully back working for myself next May.
To round it off, i've been told that I now have to go and sit in a classroom with a bunch of kids and totally redo the lot including the new 17th edition ::) :'( :'(
Would have thought you could just do the conversion course plus the electrical test one
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To round it off, i've been told that I now have to go and sit in a classroom with a bunch of kids and totally redo the lot including the new 17th edition ::) :'( :'(
But if you didn't you might do something totally heinous like put your cable clips at the incorrect spacing... ;) ;D
;D ;D ;D
Its funny, swmbo always said I could never estimate lengh :D :D :D
To be honest, If someone offered me a job for 300 quid a week doing anything, i'd snap there hand off.
Trouble is, i'm rather 46 in January and the chances of me getting employment when there are 1000's of unemployed 18 - 30 year old out there is slim on a good day >:(
Anyway, i'm a right stubbon tinker and hate looseing so its back to working for myself next May :y :y
The thing is, I just know if I will have a business to go back too :-\
Can but try ;)
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Another closed shop that stops competent people from doing their own electrical work. After completing an electronics apprenticeship which included doing wiring for aircraft, which had to passed by inspection, so you made sure you got it right and also having an HNC in Electrical and Electronic engineering, I'm not allowed to work on my own electrics.
I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course. Fortunately all the changes I made to my house were done in the 1990's and I don't need to do anything further.
At the time the regulations were brought in somebody did a law on unintended consequences and worked out due to the extra mileage that electricians would be doing, more of them would be killed in accidents on the UK's roads than lives would be saved from electrocution and fires through faulty electrical wiring. :o :o
Your in a similar position to me Rod :)
I left school at 16 and did a 12 month YTS scheme ( electronics / welding / machine work ) and walked out with a city in guilds part 1 in all of them.
Joined the RAF as a lecky mechanic at 17.
Went back to RAF college to do me tech course.
Left after 6 1/2 years and did my 15th edition and set up in business.
The 1st 14 years doing domestic electrics / alarm systems / cctv.
2004 I put most of the electrics on the back burner and throwed myself into the alarms / cctv.
Never bothered doing the 16th edition or part rather P. I just got the regs update book to see what has changed and applied it to any jobs I did :y
Lost the business ( officially :'() last May and currently running down 12 months of bankruptcy ( thats why im a stress head on here because its doing my head in ;D ;D)
Hopefully back working for myself next May.
To round it off, i've been told that I now have to go and sit in a classroom with a bunch of kids and totally redo the lot including the new 17th edition ::) :'( :'(
Would have thought you could just do the conversion course plus the electrical test one
To be honest Mark, every person I ask gives me a different answer ::) ::)
In a way, i'm lucky because I'm ex Raf, the Royal British Legion have said they will fund it for me if i'm on job seakers allowance so I have to go through all that cr*p every 2 weeks to qualify even though I don't get a penny out of them because swmbo works 30 hours in a supermarket.
It would be great to get a streight answer of somebody someday ;D
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Its funny, swmbo always said I could never estimate lengh :D :D :D
Ah the old "that's six inches, trust me dear!" ;) ;D
Anyway, i'm a right stubbon tinker and hate looseing so its back to working for myself next May :y :y
The thing is, I just know if I will have a business to go back too :-\
I'm pretty sure there's always work for good tradespeople ;) The only trouble is how long it might take to get a steady income stream built up..
The builder next door & decorator the other side of me don't seem short of work, though, that's for sure!
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Its funny, swmbo always said I could never estimate lengh :D :D :D
Ah the old "that's six inches, trust me dear!" ;) ;D
Anyway, i'm a right stubbon tinker and hate looseing so its back to working for myself next May :y :y
The thing is, I just know if I will have a business to go back too :-\
I'm pretty sure there's always work for good tradespeople ;) The only trouble is how long it might take to get a steady income stream built up..
The builder next door & decorator the other side of me don't seem short of work, though, that's for sure!
Back in 2006/7, we had some foods and alot of property was damaged round here :(
Everybody who could lay a brick or wire a plug left there nice secure jobs and setup on there own and started to rake in the money off the insurance companys.
As the work dryed up and these people found themselfs with little too do, most of them went back to there old bosses and tried to get there old jobs back, only to be told to break off because it came at the time of the banking crisis and most firms was sh*tting themselfs over it :( :(
Bottom line is that we are tottally over stocked with sparkys, builders and plumbers round here :(
I only know of 2 people who managed too get back on somebodys books :(
They was offered minimum wage plus 1 pound :o :o Take it or leave it >:( >:(
These lads had no choice but to take the job because they had morgages and familys to support :(
Once one firm did it then nearly all firms did the same.
I even know of 2 firms that laid off all the lads only the ring them up a month later to offer them there old jobs back at minimum wage plus 1 pound >:( >:(
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I looked into getting a part P certificate, but it has been designed to make it not practical to obtain unless you are working as an electrician as you have to be doing work regularly and have annual competency checks at your expense of course.
Exactly. It's primarily another "jobs for the boys" protection scheme with safety a long way down the list of priorities. Just another LPGA/UKLPG, although with a few less cowboys, thankfully.
Sadly not and I would say potentialy more from some of the work I have seen!
Maybe, maybe not. :-\ The reason I said that is that practically every "professional" LPG conversion I've ever seen has been a mess, with some potentially dangerous issues. I can't say the same about (recent) electrical installations. Most I've seen might have not been done how I would do it, occasionally I find something I'd consider unsafe, but on the whole I'd say there's a reasonable level of competence.
None of the regs guarantee compitency as do none of the organisations that these contractors sign upto
This is true, of course. If you find competence it's been through luck, because the guy was diligent on the day. Tomorrow he might have a bad day. The organisations concerned are far too busy collecting money from their members, and thinking up new barriers to protect their trade, to police the quality of work that's carried out. >:(
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Thats the capitalist world.
Its was obvious some 5-10 years ago when every man and his dog was rushing to train as a plumber/ sparky/gas fitter that there would come a point when supply outstripped the demand and the result is ALWAYS going to be wage drops and hourly rate reductions as the competition increases.
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Most I've seen might have not been done how I would do it, occasionally I find something I'd consider unsafe, but on the whole I'd say there's a reasonable level of competence.
The highlighted part covers something I found while the work on the garage was being done.
After the electrician ran the socket circuit around the room I found he'd drilled through about 4 of the upright steel beams and had the cable going diagonally down the wall to the last socket.. I have no idea why - he wasn't short of wire - but in his mind that was perfectly acceptable.
In my mind it was an "oops I drilled through a cable" waiting to happen.. so I moved the cable to run horizontally across the top of the wall space (as all the other cables he'd run were) and vertically down the stud to the socket position.
That's why, when I finally have the cash to rewire the house top to bottom, I'll be the one chasing all the walls out - so I know where the cable runs are (obeying the rules of the 17th Ed as they stand at the time - or later if it's been superseded of course), and I'll know they're all done right, to the right depth with no short-cuts taken.
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had the cable going diagonally down the wall to the last socket
no no no no no no >:( >:( >:(
he'd drilled through about 4 of the upright steel beams
no no no no no no >:( >:( >:(
something that should never be done in any circumstances >:( >:( >:( no common sense and no pride in his job, be out on his ear if he worked for me :y
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oh and figureman52 see what you started and you only wanted a cooker point ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D
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Not wanting to stir things up again, ;) but I have been given a quote of £150 + VAT over the phone today.
Is this reasonable for a "professional" electrician.
Job entails a cable run of about 20m around the outside of the kitchen extension to power a 5.6kW oven. No new consumer unit required.
Mother in law not keen for me to do the job as she likes everything all nice and "legal"