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Title: Fault description
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 07 November 2011, 21:23:29
Hiya fella, hope you can help with this one. Got my eye on a car which looks ideal for me. The only fault listed is

 "The ABS/TC light is on, at first this was intermittent but it is now most of the time. This causes the speedo, cruise control and ABS braking system to stop working and the power steering gets tighter."

Question is, does this sound like a typical fault that can be easily fixed by for example changing the ABS ECU or is it deeper than this. If it is the ABS ECU then a) Is it an easy fix b) What sort of cost could i expect.

Many thanks in advance for any help :y
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2011, 21:25:34
if post 1998, ECU is a likely candidate.  Removal and refitting is best described as "awkward".

They can be refurbed for around £150, or get an (identical) one from breaker.
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: albitz on 07 November 2011, 21:27:23
It is the ABS ECU. Options are
1. Pay approx £120 to have it repaired.
2.Buy a used one for around £40 - if this isnt from the same year/engine of car you will also need to have it configured via tech2.

I think Im watching that one too. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: Entwood on 07 November 2011, 21:28:25
Classic description of the ABS ECU failure .. possible cures are:

1) New from VX  £700 ish plus a tech2 charge

2) 2nd hand from same model year/engine type .. cost variable and you don't know if it about to fail in the same way. If it is not the same model year/engine it will need a tech2 session

3) Repair, couple of companies do it .. BBA Reman is the one I used .. £130 including VAT & courier delivery, 2 year warranty. - couple of years back so price may have changed.

HTH :)
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 07 November 2011, 22:02:06
It is the ABS ECU. Options are
1. Pay approx £120 to have it repaired.
2.Buy a used one for around £40 - if this isnt from the same year/engine of car you will also need to have it configured via tech2.

I think Im watching that one too. ;) ;D

 ;D ;D Turn around touch the ground bagsy me first Albs  ;D  My current one is crappier than yours ;)

Thanks for the advice fellas, much appreciated as always. "Best described as awkward" sounds like a 4 spanner job  :y
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: RobG on 07 November 2011, 22:11:40
It is the ABS ECU. Options are
1. Pay approx £120 to have it repaired.
2.Buy a used one for around £40 - if this isnt from the same year/engine of car you will also need to have it configured via tech2.

I think Im watching that one too. ;) ;D
::)
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: RobG on 07 November 2011, 22:13:30
It is the ABS ECU. Options are
1. Pay approx £120 to have it repaired.
2.Buy a used one for around £40 - if this isnt from the same year/engine of car you will also need to have it configured via tech2.

I think Im watching that one too. ;) ;D

 ;D ;D Turn around touch the ground bagsy me first Albs  ;D  My current one is crappier than yours ;)

Thanks for the advice fellas, much appreciated as always. "Best described as awkward" sounds like a 4 spanner job  :y
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2011, 22:16:01
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: RobG on 07 November 2011, 22:18:21
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 07 November 2011, 22:20:53
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?

I'm good at having the odd screw left over after works. Sounds like a winner Rob.
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2011, 22:23:35
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
:y - you are better than some I've seen recently then.

Loads of extention bars is the only other 'easier' way I know of then ;)
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: albitz on 07 November 2011, 22:25:01
It is the ABS ECU. Options are
1. Pay approx £120 to have it repaired.
2.Buy a used one for around £40 - if this isnt from the same year/engine of car you will also need to have it configured via tech2.

I think Im watching that one too. ;) ;D
::)

And of course,Twiglet is watching ALL of them. ::) ;D ;D

Yay,just noticed.Modify button has returned.I can once again impersonate a semi articulate adult rather than a special needs remedial. :) ;D
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: RobG on 07 November 2011, 22:30:08
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
:y - you are better than some I've seen recently then.

Loads of extention bars is the only other 'easier' way I know of then ;)
Battery out, the 3 multi-plugs and ECU tied out of the way with the loom, PAS res. bracket removed & res. moved away, top hose removed at transfer pipe, undo ABS pump bracket securing nuts, grab pump and pull up from bracket, brake pipes bend enough without kinking to remove all six screws.
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2011, 22:31:14
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
:y - you are better than some I've seen recently then.

Loads of extention bars is the only other 'easier' way I know of then ;)
Battery out, the 3 multi-plugs and ECU tied out of the way with the loom, PAS res. bracket removed & res. moved away, top hose removed at transfer pipe, undo ABS pump bracket securing nuts, grab pump and pull up from bracket, brake pipes bend enough without kinking to remove all six screws.
and you didn't do a How2?

::)
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: RobG on 07 November 2011, 22:32:36
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
:y - you are better than some I've seen recently then.

Loads of extention bars is the only other 'easier' way I know of then ;)
Battery out, the 3 multi-plugs and ECU tied out of the way with the loom, PAS res. bracket removed & res. moved away, top hose removed at transfer pipe, undo ABS pump bracket securing nuts, grab pump and pull up from bracket, brake pipes bend enough without kinking to remove all six screws.
and you didn't do a How2?

::)
I just did ;D
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: sticka_v8_init on 07 November 2011, 22:49:37
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
:y - you are better than some I've seen recently then.

Loads of extention bars is the only other 'easier' way I know of then ;)
Battery out, the 3 multi-plugs and ECU tied out of the way with the loom, PAS res. bracket removed & res. moved away, top hose removed at transfer pipe, undo ABS pump bracket securing nuts, grab pump and pull up from bracket, brake pipes bend enough without kinking to remove all six screws.
and you didn't do a How2?

::)
I just did ;D

 ;D ;D Its looking more like a 5 spanner job. How long did it take you.
Title: Re: Fault description
Post by: RobG on 07 November 2011, 22:53:29
I done my first one on the Elite estate, found it a tad exasperating but using a "shortcut" I`d happily do it again ;)
Bending battery tray, or leaving a screw out?
Nope :)
:y - you are better than some I've seen recently then.

Loads of extention bars is the only other 'easier' way I know of then ;)
Battery out, the 3 multi-plugs and ECU tied out of the way with the loom, PAS res. bracket removed & res. moved away, top hose removed at transfer pipe, undo ABS pump bracket securing nuts, grab pump and pull up from bracket, brake pipes bend enough without kinking to remove all six screws.
and you didn't do a How2?

::)
I just did ;D

 ;D ;D Its looking more like a 5 spanner job. How long did it take you.
The only occasions I`ve worked on the V6 it`s been for stripping them :D so haven`t had to worry about cutting this or breaking that ;D
Doing the ECU on this estate took me about 2 hours to remove then about an hour to re-fit. Didn`t think it too bad for a first time