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Title: lawrence trial
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 12:02:41
Do I think they are innocent? No.

Do I think it was a racist murder? No.

Do I think they will get a fair trial? No.

Do I believe this is legitimate new evidence? No.

Do I think this is now a case of "the law" needing to be seen to bring them to justice and therefore everything that can be done will be done, whether legal, fair or not? Yes.

The whole thing is a farce, yesterday's witness; ''I heard no racial abuse but someone on the bus with me said it looked like they attacked them because they were black''  you couldnt make it up :-X
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: albitz on 17 November 2011, 12:05:33
If it wasnt racist what was the motive ? :-\
At the end of the day,if they are guilty of the murder then hopefully they will pay the price and spend the rest of their days in a cell. ;)
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 November 2011, 13:00:25
Colour of anyone doesn't matter - this was just an unprovoked assult - and they need to go down for a long time!
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: Varche on 17 November 2011, 13:20:15
If it wasnt racist what was the motive ? :-\
At the end of the day,if they are guilty of the murder then hopefully they will pay the price and spend the rest of their days in a cell. ;)

Nice idea. 15 years? Out on good behaviour/we haven't enough cells after 7?
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: albitz on 17 November 2011, 13:46:35
True,although the fact that they have walked around free all these years and the fact that it is so high profile, might make this one a special case. ;)
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: cleggy on 17 November 2011, 13:54:22
I thought that originally  5 were tried for the murder, and all were acquitted so why are they bringing just these two back to court?
Can you be tried for the same offence twice, or is that old hat?
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: albitz on 17 November 2011, 14:03:32
Double jeapordy law was change because of this case iirc. ;)
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 14:29:23
If it wasnt racist what was the motive ? :-\
At the end of the day,if they are guilty of the murder then hopefully they will pay the price and spend the rest of their days in a cell. ;)

most of the locals round here know the reason  it wasnt racially motivated :-X  theres a lot of info that has been witheld  and no im not going to go into it all on a open forum  but lets just say opinions would change if and when the whole truth emerges :-X
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: the alarming man on 17 November 2011, 17:57:46
it certainly WAS NOT RACIALY MOTIVATED(i wont say why it happened on a open forum either)...thing is why did they (lawerence and his mate) get off a bus 7 stops early (4 miles)..there is a lot not reported but one thing is for sure this person is not the straight 'A' student as his mother would have you belive :y
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: albitz on 17 November 2011, 18:03:34
Doesnt mean he deserved to have a knife stuck in him and bleed to death though. Even if he had commited some heinous crime, we cant have gangs of blokes roaming the streets acting as judge,jury and (literally) executioners.
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: the alarming man on 17 November 2011, 18:05:05
may be may be not...but in my opinon he did i am afraid
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: D on 17 November 2011, 22:09:48
may be may be not...but in my opinon he did i am afraid

Thats just terrible. Surely you are not condoning this sort of behaviour are you? No matter what you thought of him.

I am lost for words.
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: BigAl on 17 November 2011, 22:23:25
most of the locals round here know the reason  it wasnt racially motivated :-X  theres a lot of info that has been witheld  and no im not going to go into it all on a open forum  but lets just say opinions would change if and when the whole truth emerges :-X

The truth will never be allowed to come out
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:25:52
may be may be not...but in my opinon he did i am afraid

Thats just terrible. Surely you are not condoning this sort of behaviour are you? No matter what you thought of him.

I am lost for words.

i agree mark and if more people knew the facts about steven and his mate  i think a lot of people would agree  they were not the budding archetects their families would like you to believe  they were the lowest form of scum
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:26:18
most of the locals round here know the reason  it wasnt racially motivated :-X  theres a lot of info that has been witheld  and no im not going to go into it all on a open forum  but lets just say opinions would change if and when the whole truth emerges :-X

The truth will never be allowed to come out

unfortunately not al
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 November 2011, 22:31:24
This is not aimed at any one person in particular:

So... This "truth" that will never come out. I'm assuming that it is something that is known by your personal experience and not a story being passed on from other people?

At the end of the day, he was murdered. That is illegal and the guilty party/parties should face the full punishment.
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: the alarming man on 17 November 2011, 22:33:15
may be may be not...but in my opinon he did i am afraid

Thats just terrible. Surely you are not condoning this sort of behaviour are you? No matter what you thought of him.

I am lost for words.


well to be honest i didnt think anything of him IT WHAT I KNOW ABOUT HIM
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: the alarming man on 17 November 2011, 22:34:14
This is not aimed at any one person in particular:

So... This "truth" that will never come out. I'm assuming that it is something that is known by your personal experience and not a story being passed on from other people?

At the end of the day, he was murdered. That is illegal and the guilty party/parties should face the full punishment.


no story as i knew of him and i knew what he was up to
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:36:58
LD  it is 1st hand knowledge not local gossip  and its horific    and his mate who he was with on the night is even more of a wrong un >:(
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: Lazydocker on 17 November 2011, 22:40:53
I can accept that your knowledge (only because you say it's first hand) of him means he may well have been up to no good.

However, my second point still stands... He was murdered and that deserves punishment
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: millwall on 17 November 2011, 22:44:49
I can accept that your knowledge (only because you say it's first hand) of him means he may well have been up to no good.

However, my second point still stands... He was murdered and that deserves punishment

normally i would agree  but i cant on this occasion   and i know that sounds harsh  but a lot of my neighbours  suffered due to them 2
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: the alarming man on 17 November 2011, 22:47:30
yeah that dont supprise me...but you live by the sword you die by the sword...you cant be a grade one ar$e wipe without some thing coming back at you :y
Title: Re: lawrence trial
Post by: cleggy on 18 November 2011, 06:33:22
Why hasn't this 'first hand knowledge' ever come to light?
Not by the defence, the enquiries or the press?? I can't find anything on the Internet either

I do find it odd that 5 blokes run across a road to 2 guys, and set about then after a bit of banter. I don't think it is racially motivated, OKeh so a group ot white guys shout ' What, what ni**er' to a black chap in the road would it be racial if it was the other way round 'What, what honkey?'  Odd how I write one word, and use asterisks in the other isn't it :( More to it than we know I think