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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: feeutfo on 26 November 2011, 13:05:50

Title: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: feeutfo on 26 November 2011, 13:05:50
I have Nokia ck whatever it is blutooth car kit, and iphone4 with tom-tom. All works very well thanks to recommendations here.

I had wondered if the voice commands from tom-tom would be transmitted via blu tooth and cut in by muting the radio etc as the phone function does nicely. Sadly not the case, and sort of accepted this wouldn't work, no biggy. Until...

I used the voice dialing feature on the phone. This also works well, press and hold menu button, voice comes in muting the radio "dialing Mrs Gixer" etc. All fine. But I later spoke a command that wasn't correct as written in the phone book, so got a voice saying "command not recognized" or something like, which repeated continually until I cancelled it via the phone. But within that time the tom-tom voice commands could also be heard in the background via the car speakers. Oooh!

Do I need a streaming car kit capable of streaming music to get this to work? I realize streaming music is pointless via a mono phone line in to the head unit but would this enable all sound from the phone to mute the head unit for Tomtom commands.... or whatever...? While the voice command feature is active on the phone Tomtom is not visible, so although the voice can be heard the map is not an aid.

Taking this forward, Siri would be interesting feature via head unit. Etc.

A member here mentioned parrots might be capable...?  :-\

Is it worth upgrading the car kit...?
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: VXL V6 on 26 November 2011, 13:59:42
I think the point is that while your phone was pulling the mute line on the head unit and it would be looking to the mono audio inputs for source.

The problem with this is that the Nav unit doesn't provide head unit mute and if you forced permanent head unit mute you wouldn't be able to listen to anything else (CD, radio etc).
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 November 2011, 14:44:42
It's more likely to be the phone thats incapable TBH.  Maybe if you could get a carkit that announced itself as bluetooth headphones rather than bluetooth handsfree, but then I suspect the mic wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: feeutfo on 26 November 2011, 22:04:58
So streaming is on or off, not selective, or quick enough to connect/disconnect...?
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 November 2011, 22:31:05
I had a CK-7W in my Rangie and running TomTom on a HP Ipaq Phone you could stream the nav audio through it if you wanted :y

That said, having TomTom cutting over the tunes every 30 seconds gets very annoying ;) ;)
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 November 2011, 23:48:08
My TomTom has the voice permanently disabled. It significantly reduces the probability of it making it to the end of the journey without being lobbed out of the driver's side window. ::)
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: feeutfo on 27 November 2011, 03:21:23
I had a CK-7W in my Rangie and running TomTom on a HP Ipaq Phone you could stream the nav audio through it if you wanted :y

That said, having TomTom cutting over the tunes every 30 seconds gets very annoying ;) ;)
not if the tunes drown out the commands and we go sailing past the turn or a speed camera.
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: feeutfo on 27 November 2011, 03:26:33
My TomTom has the voice permanently disabled. It significantly reduces the probability of it making it to the end of the journey without being lobbed out of the driver's side window. ::)
...  And not because the device blocks the view out the front...? Yeah, I've seen the position of the suction cup marks on your windscreen Mr Wood. TB would turn in his failed MOT bay. ;D
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 November 2011, 09:14:45
I had a CK-7W in my Rangie and running TomTom on a HP Ipaq Phone you could stream the nav audio through it if you wanted :y

That said, having TomTom cutting over the tunes every 30 seconds gets very annoying ;) ;)
Ipaq's had some very strange bluetooth features, seemed to not obey bluetooth rules.

CK-7W only provides Hands Free BT Profile, so the BT device should only send Hands Free stuff to it.  My Ipaq also used to stream everything over BT, tunes, satnav, the lot.

My works ipaq phone used to not seize the BT until a call came in, but once it did, if it was running anything like satnav or tunes, would never release the BT.
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 November 2011, 09:17:39
My TomTom has the voice permanently disabled. It significantly reduces the probability of it making it to the end of the journey without being lobbed out of the driver's side window. ::)
...  And not because the device blocks the view out the front...? Yeah, I've seen the position of the suction cup marks on your windscreen Mr Wood. TB would turn in his failed MOT bay. ;D
I'm going to tell my Mum that these nasty Internet men are bullying me  :'(
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 November 2011, 12:26:26
My TomTom has the voice permanently disabled. It significantly reduces the probability of it making it to the end of the journey without being lobbed out of the driver's side window. ::)
...  And not because the device blocks the view out the front...? Yeah, I've seen the position of the suction cup marks on your windscreen Mr Wood. TB would turn in his failed MOT bay. ;D

I have one of those bean-bag things that is supposed to sit on the dashboard and avoid rings on the windscreen. Unfortunately, it failed the "enthusiastic driving" test, as the whole lot ends up in the passenger footwell above about 0.25 lateral G. ::)
Title: Re: Blu tooth streaming(?) for tom-tom voice commands?
Post by: feeutfo on 27 November 2011, 17:31:23
My TomTom has the voice permanently disabled. It significantly reduces the probability of it making it to the end of the journey without being lobbed out of the driver's side window. ::)
...  And not because the device blocks the view out the front...? Yeah, I've seen the position of the suction cup marks on your windscreen Mr Wood. TB would turn in his failed MOT bay. ;D

I have one of those bean-bag things that is supposed to sit on the dashboard and avoid rings on the windscreen. Unfortunately, it failed the "enthusiastic driving" test, as the whole lot ends up in the passenger footwell above about 0.25 lateral G. ::)
... Yeah was given one of those for xmas last. Went in the charity, good way to slide a phone out an open window, from experience. ;D