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Title: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 18:56:52
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:11:32
Cat got yer tongues? ;D
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: albitz on 29 November 2011, 19:12:13
My kids are well past school age, so I may as well adopt an attitude as selfish as the strikers - close all the schools for good and save the country billions. :y
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: aaronjb on 29 November 2011, 19:13:54
Or maybe we could just outsource the education system to China..
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:18:35
Or maybe we could just outsource the education system to China..

Ah so Aalon ;D
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: LJay on 29 November 2011, 19:19:55
It's a total and utter disgrace!  People who choose to work in a job that means they have a responsibility to other vulnerable groups, such as teachers, health practitioners and the like, should not be allowed to strike.  They hold privileged roles in which people show them a great deal of trust and to turn round as say break you I'm off on strike is just not on.

The school I work at tomorrow is closed meaning that I can't go to work to provide much needed childcare as school is shut.  I'm not in a union, don't have a pension scheme and yet I'm being prevented from doing my job by people who just don't realise that the country is in a mess and moaning and striking about how much better off they are than most of us isn't going to make the slightest difference other than to hack off ordinary, hard working folks!  I've yet to speak to someone who thinks this action is a good idea.  In fact I'd go so far as to say that it's putting children at risk by closing schools.  Not on in my book!

Wake up, smell the roses and get your selfish heads out of your backsides!

 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:21:05
It's a total and utter disgrace!  People who choose to work in a job that means they have a responsibility to other vulnerable groups, such as teachers, health practitioners and the like, should not be allowed to strike.  They hold privileged roles in which people show them a great deal of trust and to turn round as say break you I'm off on strike is just not on.

The school I work at tomorrow is closed meaning that I can't go to work to provide much needed childcare as school is shut.  I'm not in a union, don't have a pension scheme and yet I'm being prevented from doing my job by people who just don't realise that the country is in a mess and moaning and striking about how much better off they are than most of us isn't going to make the slightest difference other than to hack off ordinary, hard working folks!  I've yet to speak to someone who thinks this action is a good idea.  In fact I'd go so far as to say that it's putting children at risk by closing schools.  Not on in my book!

Wake up, smell the roses and get your selfish heads out of your backsides!

 >:( >:( >:( >:(

If the wind changes your face will stick like that :P
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: Nickbat on 29 November 2011, 19:21:28
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D

No, I don't think they can. the decision to close a school is taken by the head and chairman of governors, taking into account the availability of front-line teaching staff, support staff, maintenance staff etc, etc. I believe a school must be closed officially and parents notified in writing.  ;) 
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:22:06
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D

Did you mean to say something Nick? :-X
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: LJay on 29 November 2011, 19:23:47
It's a total and utter disgrace!  People who choose to work in a job that means they have a responsibility to other vulnerable groups, such as teachers, health practitioners and the like, should not be allowed to strike.  They hold privileged roles in which people show them a great deal of trust and to turn round as say break you I'm off on strike is just not on.

The school I work at tomorrow is closed meaning that I can't go to work to provide much needed childcare as school is shut.  I'm not in a union, don't have a pension scheme and yet I'm being prevented from doing my job by people who just don't realise that the country is in a mess and moaning and striking about how much better off they are than most of us isn't going to make the slightest difference other than to hack off ordinary, hard working folks!  I've yet to speak to someone who thinks this action is a good idea.  In fact I'd go so far as to say that it's putting children at risk by closing schools.  Not on in my book!

Wake up, smell the roses and get your selfish heads out of your backsides!

 >:( >:( >:( >:(

If the wind changes your face will stick like that :P

Stop stirring Steve!  We all know that you're a cantankerous 102 year old who's past pension crisis worries! :P :P
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:25:40
It's a total and utter disgrace!  People who choose to work in a job that means they have a responsibility to other vulnerable groups, such as teachers, health practitioners and the like, should not be allowed to strike.  They hold privileged roles in which people show them a great deal of trust and to turn round as say break you I'm off on strike is just not on.

The school I work at tomorrow is closed meaning that I can't go to work to provide much needed childcare as school is shut.  I'm not in a union, don't have a pension scheme and yet I'm being prevented from doing my job by people who just don't realise that the country is in a mess and moaning and striking about how much better off they are than most of us isn't going to make the slightest difference other than to hack off ordinary, hard working folks!  I've yet to speak to someone who thinks this action is a good idea.  In fact I'd go so far as to say that it's putting children at risk by closing schools.  Not on in my book!

Wake up, smell the roses and get your selfish heads out of your backsides!

 >:( >:( >:( >:(

If the wind changes your face will stick like that :P

Stop stirring Steve!  We all know that you're a cantankerous 102 year old who's past pension crisis worries! :P :P

Moi? Stir? Of course not. Wouldn't dream of it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Narky Knickers ;D
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:27:46
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D

No, I don't think they can. the decision to close a school is taken by the head and chairman of governors, taking into account the availability of front-line teaching staff, support staff, maintenance staff etc, etc. I believe a school must be closed officially and parents notified in writing.  ;)

Yes...and???? Wifeys school is closed to kids but open because a few members of staff decided to work. If others turn up you can't lock them out.
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: Nickbat on 29 November 2011, 19:31:24
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D

No, I don't think they can. the decision to close a school is taken by the head and chairman of governors, taking into account the availability of front-line teaching staff, support staff, maintenance staff etc, etc. I believe a school must be closed officially and parents notified in writing.  ;)

Yes...and???? Wifeys school is closed to kids but open because a few members of staff decided to work. If others turn up you can't lock them out.

You are right-ish, Steve. Here's what I shamelessly nicked from the TES forum:

“ If you don’t want to strike and the school is closing, you have to notify your head teacher that you are available for work. The head will then notify the local authority, which could ask you to do some other work in a different location. In some cases, they may not do. But as long as you make it clear to your head that you are not striking, you shouldn’t lose any pay.”

 ;)

However, that all depends if it is an LEA-run school, of course.
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:32:57
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D

No, I don't think they can. the decision to close a school is taken by the head and chairman of governors, taking into account the availability of front-line teaching staff, support staff, maintenance staff etc, etc. I believe a school must be closed officially and parents notified in writing.  ;)

Yes...and? ??? Wifeys school is closed to kids but open because a few members of staff decided to work. If others turn up you can't lock them out.

You are right-ish, Steve. Here's what I shamelessly nicked from the TES forum:

“ If you don’t want to strike and the school is closing, you have to notify your head teacher that you are available for work. The head will then notify the local authority, which could ask you to do some other work in a different location. In some cases, they may not do. But as long as you make it clear to your head that you are not striking, you shouldn’t lose any pay.”

 ;)

I know of a union man who is advising staff how to get round it. If you turn up, you will be paid...apparently.
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: Nickbat on 29 November 2011, 19:37:26
You'll all love this. The striking teachers do not have to inform the headteacher/governors whether they intend to strike tomorrow or not. Even if they say they are on strike, they can change their minds and turn up for work.
 
So....school closed and no loss of pay. Good eh? ;D

No, I don't think they can. the decision to close a school is taken by the head and chairman of governors, taking into account the availability of front-line teaching staff, support staff, maintenance staff etc, etc. I believe a school must be closed officially and parents notified in writing.  ;)

Yes...and? ??? Wifeys school is closed to kids but open because a few members of staff decided to work. If others turn up you can't lock them out.

You are right-ish, Steve. Here's what I shamelessly nicked from the TES forum:

“ If you don’t want to strike and the school is closing, you have to notify your head teacher that you are available for work. The head will then notify the local authority, which could ask you to do some other work in a different location. In some cases, they may not do. But as long as you make it clear to your head that you are not striking, you shouldn’t lose any pay.”

 ;)

I know of a union man who is advising staff how to get round it. If you turn up, you will be paid...apparently.

TBH, I wouldn't think that any head teacher or governing body would want to quibble about one day's pay. It's simply not worth the potential damage to employer/employee relationships. If this strike is regularly repeated, however, attitudes may change. ;)
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: albitz on 29 November 2011, 19:42:58
Its not attitudes which need to change.Its the law which should be changed.In fact the Tories should have made changes to the law regarding industrial action as sson as they got into office.
I think this mass disruption by a small minority will hopefully give them the excuse to do it in the near future though. ;)
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 November 2011, 19:44:06
I would ensure that they did loose a days pay and that it was on the permanent record as a day of non attendance.

Plus detention and having to eat school meals for a month
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: albitz on 29 November 2011, 19:47:22
And also ban public servants from taking industrial action. ;)
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 19:47:48
I would ensure that they did loose a days pay and that it was on the permanent record as a day of non attendance.

Plus detention and having to eat school meals for a month

Steady on Mark ;D
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: alfie on 29 November 2011, 19:54:36
If the tories get their way,this country will end up as North Korea,then we will see how you will like the law being changed to suit the tories and their funkeys.
                                         Alfie,
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: albitz on 29 November 2011, 20:00:06
Well thought out argument and well presented. :y ::)
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: STMO123 on 29 November 2011, 20:06:06
Well thought out argument and well presented. :y ::)

Well I liked it. And sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: albitz on 29 November 2011, 20:07:22
You should rather know. ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: Strikes..different subject
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 November 2011, 20:21:42
I've a mate who's a teacher in Cornwall, and although I havn't spoken to him about this, I'd put money on the fact that he'll be surfing or doing DIY!!! Just can't see him standing out in the rain with a placard somehow!!  ::)