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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Cookie Monster on 30 November 2011, 17:38:24
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Hi all... Now i apologise at the start cos this is one of those how long is a bit of string questions but .....
I have been offered (over the phone so far) a Y plate 2.2 petrol silver with mot til Aug 12 and tax til Apr 12.
Guy wants £400 > £500 for it , sorry dont know spec yet or mileage(other than he says" its not been to the moon and back")
Question is ... is it roughly worth it? and
I have at present a 2.5cd V6 W reg mileage about 75k , i use it to tow the pikey van and i`m very pleased with the performance etc .... will the 2.2 give me almost as much oomf ?
I know its all maybes and a bit vague but any comments would be appreciated
Adam
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Will give you slightly better enconomy, but you'll notice the difference towing a 'van.
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.... I'd consider it a downgrade from what you have engine wise. What spec is 2.2? if elite, or cdx then maybe worth it over all, if thats your bag.
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I should have asked him the spec , waiting on a text.
I dont think i`d consider it if it wasn`t an elite.
I love my bus but she is getting a bit "untidy" bodywork wise mainly thru herself parking in car parks !!
And both the bumpers need something done to them , the frontis stone chipped and they both seem to have the lacquer peeling off!
But then if i`m gonna lose alot of pulling power for the van then i`d only be straining the engine , and i know at the moment i tow very comfortably.
Adam
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.... I'd consider it a downgrade from what you have engine wise. What spec is 2.2? if elite, or cdx then maybe worth it over all, if thats your bag.
Elite only came with a proper engine, or diesels, throughout its production run. Never a 2.0 or 2.2 petrol one.
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Hi ya,
Am I right in think that a 2001 (Y) just creeps in to the higher tax bracket where it's based on emissions?
Correct me if I'm wrong :)
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Hi ya,
Am I right in think that a 2001 (Y) just creeps in to the higher tax bracket where it's based on emissions?
Correct me if I'm wrong :)
Cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 (based on fuel type and CO2 emissions) do fall into the higher tax bracket :y
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Hi ya,
Am I right in think that a 2001 (Y) just creeps in to the higher tax bracket where it's based on emissions?
Correct me if I'm wrong :)
Cars registered on or after 1 March 2001 (based on fuel type and CO2 emissions) do fall into the higher tax bracket :y
this link gives details http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
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Yeah just had a call from the guy .... Its a 2.2 Manual Petrol cdx with 126k on clock.
I`m tempted to drive over at weekend and see it.
He also asked me what i wa doing with my 2.5cd , think he fancies doing something of a deal maybe.
Any comments guys ?
Adam
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Nice and simple to work on is a plus,ive got one and like it lots! 35mpg on a run,not the quickest bus but cruises nicely at 70-80,buy it if its tidy :y
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Yeah just had a call from the guy .... Its a 2.2 Manual Petrol cdx with 126k on clock.
I`m tempted to drive over at weekend and see it.
He also asked me what i wa doing with my 2.5cd , think he fancies doing something of a deal maybe.
Any comments guys ?
Adam
well there's your first problem! ::) :-X ;D
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if it's just the bodywork that's concerning you with your existing car, I'd be tempted to get quotes for that first :y
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nowt wrong with the manual,depends on your preference ;)
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nowt wrong with the manual,depends on your preference ;)
omega should be auto imo :y
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nothing wrong with the 2.2...i have has 2 now...no not as fast as a 3.2 and probably not the best for towing due to the smaller engine...but all the same an under rated car imo :y
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I also have a 2.2 estate and it is relatively simple to work on (especially the cambelt). It has adequate poke for me, even driving long distances on French motorways and has lugged some very heavy equipment without complaint but I have never towed with it.
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I have a 2.2, have never driven a 2.5 or other v6 Omega for that matter, but I have towed numerous vehicles with mine, and there is enough power for that.
I would say that unless there were known probs with your own one, I would not jump! You would be opening a can of worms potentially! Also it has over 50k miles more than yours, that is a lot! If I were you, I would spend a couple of hundred tidying up your body work and retro fitting the CDX or even Elite goodies!
Also, mine is June 2001, and the tax is £260 don't know what yours is currently but something to consider.
HTH :)
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nowt wrong with the manual,depends on your preference ;)
omega should be auto imo :y
If I were considering a 4 pot Omega, under no circumstances would it be an Auto.
Not enough grunt for an auto and I'd be doing it for fuel consumption and an auto box puts it back not far off where a V6 is, so no point. ;)
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Hi i tow my caravan with my 2.2 estate, the weight of my van is about 1,500 kg plus 2 bikes a roof box and 4 people in and a dog. It tows about 60-65 ok in 4th sometimes 5th on the motorway traffic permitting, i get 20-23 mpg. and keep up with the speed limits on the a roads, that's if theirs no potholes.
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I've owned (still have it) 2.2 manual for 7 years, its never put a foot wrong, very reliable cheap to run.
Don't expect performance though, it will keep up with most, just have to get them in braking!
Now own a 3.2, idle wise 2.2 is actually better! But 3.2 is just effortless power, does everything with ease. 2.2 struggles 80+ to make progess, 3.2 just watch the numbers just fly by. Not that i've done that of course :D
I love my 2.2, hence its not been sold. I would not fart around with 2.5/2.6/3.0 personally, if your going to get V6 best to get biggest one! :)
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I have had a Desmond for many years and have to say that it has been reliable, comfortable and relatively inexpensive to run - but not fast or particularly sprightly.
When I drive another car I have that has a 24 valve V6 engine it is obvious that the Desmond is quite underpowered for its size.
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I'd say, the 2.2's are a great engine.. If they've had religious regular oil changes, else the cam chain oil jet blocks and the chain snaps, so as said, if yours is good, stick with that- you know what you've got then.
I know what 150 bhp feels like when you have diesel ascociated torque figures as well, it's good enough, but petrol power? Wouldn't have thought it'd be the best for towing...
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nowt wrong with the manual,depends on your preference ;)
omega should be auto imo :y
If I were considering a 4 pot Omega, under no circumstances would it be an Auto.
Not enough grunt for an auto and I'd be doing it for fuel consumption and an auto box puts it back not far off where a V6 is, so no point. ;)
sorry should have said in 2.5+ guise :y
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I have a 2.2, have never driven a 2.5 or other v6 Omega for that matter, but I have towed numerous vehicles with mine, and there is enough power for that.
I would say that unless there were known probs with your own one, I would not jump! You would be opening a can of worms potentially! Also it has over 50k miles more than yours, that is a lot! If I were you, I would spend a couple of hundred tidying up your body work and retro fitting the CDX or even Elite goodies!
Also, mine is June 2001, and the tax is £260 don't know what yours is currently but something to consider.
HTH :)
definitely mate. could be out of the pan and in to the fire!
re the tax, mine's a 2.5 v6 and has just been renewed for the year at £215. not much of a difference in the end. :y
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Any car should have more cylinders than doors ;) ;) :y :y :y :y
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Any car should have more cylinders than doors ;) ;) :y :y :y :y
Like :y
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I sold my Carlton 3.0L Diamond estate ( lotus kit and wheels fitted..it was the only one regd in Ireland ) a few months ago and bought a 2.2 Omega estate...for the mpg really...and I'm regretting it.....I play in a band and lug my gear in the estate and have found that 2.2 just isn't enough power...and when it's under pressure I don't seem to be getting anymore mpg than I was from the Carlton which just cruised when fully loaded....both were/are autos because my wife has a problem with her left leg and sometimes she would have to drive it.....she has an auto S Class 320 mercedes and she HATES driving the omega for the simple reason of the lack of power.....New Year I'm gonna buy 3.0 or 3.2
my tuppence worth
Kevin
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I have a 2.2 cd Auto and I like it. I tow 1350kg with no problem, although I find that if I run at the same speed as lorries, 56, it seems to hold top gear better than if I run at 60?? When I bought the mig I had a choice of 2.6 and this one, but chose the 2.2 because I thought the fuel consumption would be better, reading the posts on here it's not. Drove up to Lincoln yesterday through the road works on the A46 a lot of stopping, slowing down (40mph) stopping and it return just over 32 mph (solo) Aircon on auto.
When towing it returns about 20mph. I like it, suppose at my age it has all the power I need :y
Has as been said they are easy to work on.
02 plate tax £260 >:( >:( >:(
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I'd say, the 2.2's are a great engine.. If they've had religious regular oil changes, else the cam chain oil jet blocks and the chain snaps, so as said, if yours is good, stick with that- you know what you've got then.
Omega 2.2 is belt driven. ;) But good advice on the oil changes, regardless. :y
Any car should have more cylinders than doors
Sounds like the Westfield's safe as a 4 pot, then. ;D
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right number of pedals wrong amount of pots :y
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I have a 2.2. Its actually not bad at all. Pretty nippy, economical and I find it good fun to drive as it has the sports suspension. Ok its no 3.2, but then neither are the fuel bills. My mpg is about 28.6 with predominantly town driving with occ motorway blasts. Best advice would be to drive it yourself and see what you think. Cannot comment on towing as I have never done that.
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I'd say, the 2.2's are a great engine.. If they've had religious regular oil changes, else the cam chain oil jet blocks and the chain snaps, so as said, if yours is good, stick with that- you know what you've got then.
Omega 2.2 is belt driven. ;) But good advice on the oil changes, regardless. :y
Any car should have more cylinders than doors
Sounds like the Westfield's safe as a 4 pot, then. ;D
And there I thought that I was being knowledgable!! D'oh!! So they're not the same 2.2 then...
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I'd say, the 2.2's are a great engine.. If they've had religious regular oil changes, else the cam chain oil jet blocks and the chain snaps, so as said, if yours is good, stick with that- you know what you've got then.
Omega 2.2 is belt driven. ;) But good advice on the oil changes, regardless. :y
Any car should have more cylinders than doors
Sounds like the Westfield's safe as a 4 pot, then. ;D
And there I thought that I was being knowledgable!! D'oh!! So they're not the same 2.2 then...
In the Omega:
2.2 16v is belt
2.2 DTi is chain
In the Vectra:
2.2 16v is also chain, but its a different engine :)
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Well that seemed to provoke a few comments.
I really appreciate your words guys.
Sounds like i`m better off sticking with my devil i know and have had my hands all over.
It was only a thought as i put word out i might be interested in upgrading actually to 3.0 and he got wrong idea.
Think i`ll stay as i am for now.
Thanks again guys.
Adam
Btw if anybody is interested in the 2.2 pm me and i`ll send u his contact details..He is in Farnborough,Hampshire.
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.... I'd consider it a downgrade from what you have engine wise. What spec is 2.2? if elite, or cdx then maybe worth it over all, if thats your bag.
Elite only came with a proper engine, or diesels, throughout its production run. Never a 2.0 or 2.2 petrol one.
thought AndyVXLv6 has 2.2 dti Elite? :-\
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I have a 2.2 petrol and i would not advise towing with it, once you get a pace on it's a good cruiser but power will let you down, i just changed from summer 16's to winter 15's and you can actually feel the difference torque wise!! so that should be a good indicator! the car is too heavy for the 2.2 but is quite acceptable if you want a motorway cruiser, also i would be very wary if he's looking at trading to another omega it maybe a can of worms just waiting to spring!
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.... I'd consider it a downgrade from what you have engine wise. What spec is 2.2? if elite, or cdx then maybe worth it over all, if thats your bag.
Elite only came with a proper engine, or diesels, throughout its production run. Never a 2.0 or 2.2 petrol one.
thought AndyVXLv6 has 2.2 dti Elite? :-\
Ah, re read. Appologies.
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:y hello hei mate, mine name is gibby, my Speed Bird y reg 2.2l z22xe silver as well has been a very good machine, very confortable, not very heavy on petrol and gas, but recently I change the head gasket. the reason was that the former owner was using normal water instead of anti-freezer coolant so the water created a groove under the head up to the third cylinder, then it started mixing oil and water. but its a good machine. gudluk.