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Title: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: mantahatch on 03 December 2011, 15:03:57
What a load of rubbish. A very close friend has just died. We where at school together and we did the same bricklaying apprenticeship, and allthough I gave up bricklaying he went on to do it all his life. He has died age 47, he is was 6 months older than me.

So much for people living longer these days, all manual workers should retire at 55.

I am bloody livid and shocked, this guy never did anyone any harm and would give you the shirt off his back.
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: Varche on 03 December 2011, 15:26:00
That is exactly the point I have been making about raising the retirement age. We know a lot of people at knackers yard stage approaching old retirement age.

Might be alright for working in a C/H office but maintaing quarry equipemnt and so on.... :o :o

The living longer thing is in my view a temporay thing. True people are NOW living longer and there is better medicine but the obesity issue and liver disease issue will soon put paid to that in forty years. Add in the stress from even worse congestion and travel to and from work and expected workloads........
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: pscocoa on 03 December 2011, 17:55:27
Unfortunately it is a complete lottery - I lost a friend at 48 this year who looked after himself health wise etc, gym, diet and so on. My dad is nearly 91 and smokes 15 cigars a day - he has been retired 30 years and reckons that HSBC have a contract out on his life for costing them so much money (in reality it is a not a lot of course).

Luck of the draw - some want to work on - some do not - should do our best to give people a choice in view of diverse financial circumstances that you find yourself in.
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: albitz on 03 December 2011, 18:08:51
There does seem to be an element of pot luck about these things.When I did physical work - up until three and a half years ago. I was as fit as a butchers dog,apart from a spazzy leg. Had to stop and now Im gaining weight and feel very unfit indeed. :-\
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 03 December 2011, 19:03:47
There does seem to be an element of pot luck about these things.When I did physical work - up until three and a half years ago. I was as fit as a butchers dog,apart from a spazzy leg. Had to stop and now Im gaining weight and feel very unfit indeed. :-\

thought i had seen you face before :) :-*
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: albitz on 03 December 2011, 19:05:14
break orf. :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 03 December 2011, 19:16:47
speaking personally i have worked hard in the building trade in one way or another all my life at nearly 48 i feel the aches and pains now ok being a fat tinker dont help but even so body feels worn out at time. mates in the game seem to drop like flies as soon as they finally get to retire. so i do think there is some truth to how your working life effects your life span

i dont have any regrets after all you choose your own direction to a point

but we all deal with things differently a stressfull job can also be a real killer

sorry for the loss of your friend Mantahatch, it always seems to be the good are taken from us early

Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 03 December 2011, 19:17:51
break orf. :P ;D ;D

sorry fatso :-* ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: pscocoa on 03 December 2011, 20:00:55
A friend is taking the view that when you get to around 56 and should retire - on the basis that you have 10 good years to go out and do things followed by 10 not so good years and that is it....

His parents both died relatively young and this obviously has a bearing on his views.
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: albitz on 03 December 2011, 20:13:03
All well and good if you can afford to do it,but very few can these days. ;)
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: millwall on 03 December 2011, 20:23:04
speaking personally i have worked hard in the building trade in one way or another all my life at nearly 48 i feel the aches and pains now ok being a fat tinker dont help but even so body feels worn out at time. mates in the game seem to drop like flies as soon as they finally get to retire. so i do think there is some truth to how your working life effects your life span

i dont have any regrets after all you choose your own direction to a point

but we all deal with things differently a stressfull job can also be a real killer

sorry for the loss of your friend Mantahatch, it always seems to be the good are taken from us early

im only 39 and get the aches and pains  too many 16 plus hours a day
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: 999gsi on 03 December 2011, 20:40:33
life is so precious,so enjoy it while you can,you'll be amazed how many people tell me that as a paramedic who smokes "i should know better"...if i knew better i wouldnt drive a car,would live in a bungalow(stairs cause so may accidents) and would never consider crossing the road..in the past 2 weeks ive been to a 40yr old deceased,a 19yr old deceased and sadly a 6 month old baby...puts things in perspective... :'(
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 03 December 2011, 21:02:10
speaking personally i have worked hard in the building trade in one way or another all my life at nearly 48 i feel the aches and pains now ok being a fat tinker dont help but even so body feels worn out at time. mates in the game seem to drop like flies as soon as they finally get to retire. so i do think there is some truth to how your working life effects your life span

i dont have any regrets after all you choose your own direction to a point

but we all deal with things differently a stressfull job can also be a real killer

sorry for the loss of your friend Mantahatch, it always seems to be the good are taken from us early

im only 39 and get the aches and pains  too many 16 plus hours a day

finding look at my horse videos ;D ;D ;D oh break the tunes back in my head now ;D ;D

still do long days now even local building stuff but no where near what i used too getting married sorted me out like coming home too wifey at the end of the day quality of life now break the money no one ever appreciates it when you work long hours anymore and as for a little drink at the end of the job your lucky if you get paid nowadays
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: millwall on 03 December 2011, 21:14:20
speaking personally i have worked hard in the building trade in one way or another all my life at nearly 48 i feel the aches and pains now ok being a fat tinker dont help but even so body feels worn out at time. mates in the game seem to drop like flies as soon as they finally get to retire. so i do think there is some truth to how your working life effects your life span

i dont have any regrets after all you choose your own direction to a point

but we all deal with things differently a stressfull job can also be a real killer

sorry for the loss of your friend Mantahatch, it always seems to be the good are taken from us early

im only 39 and get the aches and pains  too many 16 plus hours a day

finding look at my horse videos ;D ;D ;D oh break the tunes back in my head now ;D ;D

still do long days now even local building stuff but no where near what i used too getting married sorted me out like coming home too wifey at the end of the day quality of life now break the money no one ever appreciates it when you work long hours anymore and as for a little drink at the end of the job your lucky if you get paid nowadays

you just wont admit you love that song paul ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 03 December 2011, 22:28:17
I spend so much time dealing with people in various states of disrepair, I use it as inspiration to keep myself as fit as I can, purely to give me a fighting chance as I get older - but we all know of someone who's dropped dead despite their best efforts to stay healthy. Tis a lottery.
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: hotel21 on 03 December 2011, 22:30:29
I spend so much time dealing with people in various states of disrepair, I use it as inspiration to keep myself as fit as I can, purely to give me a fighting chance as I get older - but we all know of someone who's dropped dead despite their best efforts to stay healthy. Tis a lottery.
True.

I just regret not being able to buy lottery tickets the night I got bump started...   ;D

Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: Vamps on 03 December 2011, 22:41:13
I spend so much time dealing with people in various states of disrepair, I use it as inspiration to keep myself as fit as I can, purely to give me a fighting chance as I get older - but we all know of someone who's dropped dead despite their best efforts to stay healthy. Tis a lottery.
True.

I just regret not being able to buy lottery tickets the night I got bump started...   ;D

That reminds me, I am coming up to my 10th aiversary for my Big C Diagnosis......10 extra years and all down to my GP, well he started the process..... :y :y
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: hotel21 on 03 December 2011, 22:45:34
I spend so much time dealing with people in various states of disrepair, I use it as inspiration to keep myself as fit as I can, purely to give me a fighting chance as I get older - but we all know of someone who's dropped dead despite their best efforts to stay healthy. Tis a lottery.
True.

I just regret not being able to buy lottery tickets the night I got bump started...   ;D

That reminds me, I am coming up to my 10th aiversary for my Big C Diagnosis......10 extra years and all down to my GP, well he started the process..... :y :y

I turned 5 in September.....

Mrs H21 is now 7 (or 3, depending on which rebirth date from C you want to refer back to....)    :y
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: Omega32E on 04 December 2011, 13:30:00
Seems 40 > 50 is a dodgy stage in a mans life, couple of my mates are no longer with us and another came very close but salvaged at the last minute by the NHS.
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 04 December 2011, 14:29:17
Seems 40 > 50 is a dodgy stage in a mans life, couple of my mates are no longer with us and another came very close but salvaged at the last minute by the NHS.

see i told wifey men go through the change too oooooo what am i like..... hot flush :-* :D ;D ;D

look at my horse :D :D :D

who ate my pies :D :D :D
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: Bixy1 on 04 December 2011, 15:03:17
In my experience its better to die young, (Huh, missed that then  :-\ ) then you miss all this old age crap.  Fifty seems to be the health cut off point - after this, its all downhill - slalom style.  ;)

Sorry to hear of your loss. I lost a good mate aged 28, some mornings when I struggle to get up I'm not too sure who got the best deal. . . . 
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 December 2011, 18:56:27
My Dad worked his knackers off all his life, but vowed to retire at fifty..... At 53 he bought his boat and caravan and was preparing to sell his business and retire, when he was diagnosed with cancer!  6 weeks later he was gone......  :'(

I was 23 at the time and vowed that the same thing wouldn't happen to me.  Although I've always worked and paid my way, I've travelled the world, done some extraordinary things/jobs, lived in some great places and generally had fun!!!  ;)  As someone put it recently... 'a life less ordinary...'  :)

2 years ago at the age of 40 I was diagnosed with cancer and I'm really lucky to be here to tell the tale! Just over a year ago I had some pretty radical surgery, during which there were complications and I nearly didn't get through it.....  Reflecting on it all in the days afterwards I decided that I didn't have too many regrets about how I've lived my life.  Apart from the ones who got away ::) and a time in my thirties when all my 'friends' hassled me to 'settle down' and get a proper job... blah blah blah  >:(  and I did.......  :o :(

I'm in South Wales at the moment and was going to go to the meet...... but I was too busy working.......  ::)  :-[ :-\
Title: Re: Hard work never killed anybody..........
Post by: Bixy1 on 04 December 2011, 23:15:41
You hang in there Tigger!!  :y