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Title: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 04 December 2011, 19:33:30
I attended my first Phaeton GTG yesterday in Puckeridge - Herts.

All work done on cars was by computer enabling various features that VW don't explain to you.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34956042/panophaetondec2011.jpg)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 December 2011, 19:53:56
Must admit, I really am quite taken with the Phaeton ::)

It may well be the road I go down when the Omega finally needs replacing
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Omega_Dan on 04 December 2011, 20:03:54
same here. early ones becoming more affordable now.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 December 2011, 20:06:28
Its such a shame they dont look a bit less like a Passat.
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Post by: Dishevelled Den on 04 December 2011, 20:07:19
A fine gathering by the look of it - I would gladly have one :-* :-* :y
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Post by: millwall on 04 December 2011, 20:15:41
looks a good turnout :y
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 04 December 2011, 20:20:15
Yes - I have said for some time now that as an Omgega replacement they seem ideal. The badge is similar standing to VX without the pretentiousness of Audi, BMW etc. What is interesting is the repair costs seem to have been low compared to what people think.Some of those cars in the pics have done 100 - 128,000 and not a lot of problems that VW did not fix under warranty or with heavy contribution to repair costs. They are very heavy (2.5 ton) 4 wheel drive cars and whilst I would have loved a V10 (I think 3 of the 9 are V10s) you have large fuel bills around town. I get 37 mpg on motorway running which is what I bought it for and I do no around town stuff at all. One of those in the pic is a V10 LWB but it is difficult enough to squeeze the standard into car park slots.

The officianados ( and I am not one of them) say that the GP1 is the one to go for. The system is GP0 was the first in 2002 and GP1 (facelift) around 2006, I think GP2 is mine around 2009 and there is now a GP3 for 2010. The GP1 has the car data link to the main screen and other things which I do not know much about but for those thinking of buying it is worth reading up on.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 04 December 2011, 20:23:49
Its such a shame they dont look a bit less like a Passat.

Yes the guys are used to the comparison and were joking as bewildered persons came past that everyone will be saying "what are all those Passats doing there". Fortunately that comparison does mean that you get a hell of a lot of car for the money.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Omega_Dan on 04 December 2011, 20:27:00
Its such a shame they dont look a bit less like a Passat.

Yes the guys are used to the comparison and were joking as bewildered persons came past that everyone will be saying "what are all those Passats doing there". Fortunately that comparison does mean that you get a hell of a lot of car for the money.

Its the Interior that does it for me. just everything i could ever ask for :)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: feeutfo on 04 December 2011, 22:35:04
Its such a shame they dont look a bit less like a Passat.

Yes the guys are used to the comparison and were joking as bewildered persons came past that everyone will be saying "what are all those Passats doing there". Fortunately that comparison does mean that you get a hell of a lot of car for the money.
Its one of the main features of the car imo. Understated. But main feature being looooads of toys, of course.

Might be intetested in the next meet, if you dont mind giving us a heads up...? :)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: henryd on 04 December 2011, 22:51:12
Definitely a lot of car for not that much money :y :y
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 04 December 2011, 23:47:21
Its such a shame they dont look a bit less like a Passat.

Yes the guys are used to the comparison and were joking as bewildered persons came past that everyone will be saying "what are all those Passats doing there". Fortunately that comparison does mean that you get a hell of a lot of car for the money.
Its one of the main features of the car imo. Understated. But main feature being looooads of toys, of course.

Might be intetested in the next meet, if you dont mind giving us a heads up...? :)

Will do. They are now making selling 10,000 new Phaetons a year -  6000 go to China. That and the Touareg are very popular.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 December 2011, 00:12:31
Yes - I have said for some time now that as an Omgega replacement they seem ideal. The badge is similar standing to VX without the pretentiousness of Audi, BMW etc. What is interesting is the repair costs seem to have been low compared to what people think.Some of those cars in the pics have done 100 - 128,000 and not a lot of problems that VW did not fix under warranty or with heavy contribution to repair costs. They are very heavy (2.5 ton) 4 wheel drive cars and whilst I would have loved a V10 (I think 3 of the 9 are V10s) you have large fuel bills around town. I get 37 mpg on motorway running which is what I bought it for and I do no around town stuff at all. One of those in the pic is a V10 LWB but it is difficult enough to squeeze the standard into car park slots.

The officianados ( and I am not one of them) say that the GP1 is the one to go for. The system is GP0 was the first in 2002 and GP1 (facelift) around 2006, I think GP2 is mine around 2009 and there is now a GP3 for 2010. The GP1 has the car data link to the main screen and other things which I do not know much about but for those thinking of buying it is worth reading up on.

Hi ya,

In my personal opinion I don't think the Vx badge is a patch on VW. I don't know whether that's fair or not but I think VW is much more desirable than Vx in people's minds.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 December 2011, 00:13:38
Ps, I love the Phaeton. On my walk to work I walk past one and always have a nosie inside. They are gorgeous and look loaded with toys  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 December 2011, 08:06:34
Yes - I have said for some time now that as an Omgega replacement they seem ideal. The badge is similar standing to VX without the pretentiousness of Audi, BMW etc. What is interesting is the repair costs seem to have been low compared to what people think.Some of those cars in the pics have done 100 - 128,000 and not a lot of problems that VW did not fix under warranty or with heavy contribution to repair costs. They are very heavy (2.5 ton) 4 wheel drive cars and whilst I would have loved a V10 (I think 3 of the 9 are V10s) you have large fuel bills around town. I get 37 mpg on motorway running which is what I bought it for and I do no around town stuff at all. One of those in the pic is a V10 LWB but it is difficult enough to squeeze the standard into car park slots.

The officianados ( and I am not one of them) say that the GP1 is the one to go for. The system is GP0 was the first in 2002 and GP1 (facelift) around 2006, I think GP2 is mine around 2009 and there is now a GP3 for 2010. The GP1 has the car data link to the main screen and other things which I do not know much about but for those thinking of buying it is worth reading up on.

Hi ya,

In my personal opinion I don't think the Vx badge is a patch on VW. I don't know whether that's fair or not but I think VW is much more desirable than Vx in people's minds.

Agreed but, the VW badge value is plumeting like a stone these days.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 05 December 2011, 09:47:36
Depends on where you set your criteria. If you are saying the badge value is falling because of poor quality that is somewhat different to a lot of used VWs being available. Any motorway journey and you are surrounded by VWs.

Question is for cars of quality to be available at afforable/sensible prices you get a chance to own something that is different and maybe a bit of a one off is not to be overlooked because of badge. When I bought the Omega it was with a long term ownership in mind - I paid £17k for a lot of car - 1 year old and list price of £31k. Yes it dropped like a stone and would have done so for firstfew years but nearly 10 years on it was not a bad buy.

It is all about the price and the trade off between a degree of newness you would like and heavier depreciation in first years. I hope to keep Phaeton for 10 years.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 05 December 2011, 17:06:10
I love Q-cars, the Phaeton is so subtle it's brilliant. Very handsome.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: tunnie on 05 December 2011, 19:03:49
How do you find the forums? Good technical bods on there?

Like them myself, cheaper alternative to the A8
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 05 December 2011, 19:36:55

A lot of USA input because they have older cars - Phaeton was wihdrawn a while ago so they are having to sort out lots of jobs themselves.

You get some good input such as:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5479147-My-Phaeton-Service-Photos-(48-Pictures)-(ATF-Coolant)&highlight=atf+change (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5479147-My-Phaeton-Service-Photos-(48-Pictures)-(ATF-Coolant)&highlight=atf+change)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 05 December 2011, 21:04:46
How do you find the forums? Good technical bods on there?

Like them myself, cheaper alternative to the A8

totally agree with that very nice car love the interior :y :y
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 23:25:35
 Phaeton or vxr8 though....?
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Webby the Bear on 05 December 2011, 23:33:31
Phaeton or vxr8 though....?

phaeton every time  :y
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: feeutfo on 05 December 2011, 23:36:20
Phaeton or vxr8 though....?

phaeton every time  :y
For toys yes... Performance? Nooooohohooo.
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: fiend61 on 05 December 2011, 23:59:39
hmmm  the v10 sounds nice though  ;)

just think about all the mig owners you can pee off when we start spouting off about a 4 pot not having enough cylinders  ;D

loads of gadgets and gizmos  ;)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: Webby the Bear on 06 December 2011, 00:50:17
Phaeton or vxr8 though....?

phaeton every time  :y
For toys yes... Performance? Nooooohohooo.

well who cares about performance.... we're all 214 years old on here  ;D

however the 4.2 v8 does 0-60 in 6.9. thats more than plenty! and i bet that vxr8 is uncomfortable!
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: tunnie on 06 December 2011, 00:59:44
Phaeton or vxr8 though....?

phaeton every time  :y
For toys yes... Performance? Nooooohohooo.

well who cares about performance.... we're all 214 years old on here  ;D

however the 4.2 v8 does 0-60 in 6.9. thats more than plenty! and i bet that vxr8 is uncomfortable!

No, it will be comfy, it's a RWD Vauxhall :)
Title: Re: Phaeton Get Together
Post by: pscocoa on 08 December 2011, 16:51:45
Apart from the annoying ads - you may find this to be quite interesting. This car began production more or less when Omega ceased. The factory gets a lot of visitors and it is quite nice  in some way to be associated with something a bit different.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/industry/21-cool-facts-about-the-transparent-volkswagen-factory?click=pm_news#slide-1 (http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/industry/21-cool-facts-about-the-transparent-volkswagen-factory?click=pm_news#slide-1)