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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: keithnic on 16 March 2008, 16:15:24
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Hi, I was looking at the road tax this weekend. From March 2009 the 3.2 models are going to be £440 per year!!! £440 a year, can you believe that. http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20786 This is only for cars registered after March 2001. Before that tax is only caluclated on the size of your engine.
I'm looking at LPG options, but not sure its worth it on a car thats over six years old now. I've got the Elite 3.2 estate and they're not worth much any more unfortunately. What does anyone else think?
Great forum btw.
Cheers
Keith
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This is when it pays to have an old 2 litre, but I think it will catch up with the old cars eventually.
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This is when it pays to have an old 2 litre, but I think it will catch up with the old cars eventually.
These are my thought's too. There's too many around to be ignored & they'll make a fast buck anyway they can >:(
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I'm going to see a 2.6 Estate.. registered in March 2001... who rekon's I'll get a bargain? ;D
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Hi Keith. I see that's your first post. Welcome matey :y
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Thanks Waspy, quite an active forum. Wish I'd found it when I bought my first Omega estate. Mind you it may not have been around then (1999).
I'll be sad to see my Omega go, but I'm not paying the government money unless I really have to.
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lets face it, Kieser Blairs replacement Prince Brown is not doing himself any favours, they wont be happy till we all running around in a dawoo matiz
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This is when it pays to have an old 2 litre, but I think it will catch up with the old cars eventually.
There were no emissions figures on older cars( up to end of Feb 2001 ) so I'm hoping that only modest increases every year.
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I bought a 3.2 about a month ago, but it's worth every penny.
It still uses less fuel than a big 4WD and I love it.
How big is the engine in Gordon Brown's chauffer driven Jag?
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Sod em, I'll just do 4 cambelt changes off the record each year and not delare the tax on them ;D ;D - that'll pay for my road tax :D
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Ps, if anyone here works for HMRC, that is a joke!
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Problem is, all late V6s bar the 2.6 manual saloon will now end up in the highest tax bracket whereas when I bought mine a year ago, I saw that when they introduced the top bracket, they didn't do so retrospectively, i.e. it was only for cars 2006 and later, so I felt safe buying a 2002 car with relatively high CO2.
That's all out of the window now. Who knows what'll happen next? Now we're in the top bracket will we get the much rumoured 2k per year road tax one day? :o
When I LPG my car will they double the price of that overnight?
All bets are off now. We can't rely on anything being applied consistently by this shower. I just hope they get slung out before any more damage is done. >:(
Interestingly, the effect of this tax hike from my perspective is that my Westfield will probably get SORN'ed for the winter as I can't see the point of spending 440 a year on one car and 185 on another that only gets occasional use. That means a more economical car that I used to run about in a fair bit in the winter when the weather suited will now be in the garage and I'll be doing more miles in the Omega. Net effect on CO2 emissions is an increase.
I wonder how many other families who need at least one large car / people carrier, etc will respond simply by dropping more economical runabouts?
Oh, and I'm sure the obvious "buy a pre-2001 car" loophole will be closed eventually. I reckon the much-rumoured ban / restriction on cars over a certain age will rear its' ugly head in a year or two.
Kevin
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Sod em, I'll just do 4 cambelt changes off the record each year and not delare the tax on them ;D ;D - that'll pay for my road tax :D
Me packing up the ciggies in January will pay for my tax.
:y :y
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Time for organised demos and definately time for an election
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i think mine goes upto £210 a year...might start walking...NOT!!! :D
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Kevin makes a good point re some families cutting back on their smaller economical cars and just running one large family car. They're putting up road tax, but with no reduction on petrol duty or any other motoring levy. Its totally shaft the motorist again!
We have three young children and a dog and the Omega is ideal. We also have a Mini for running around locally and we can't sell the Mini, they are soooo much fun.
I was thinking about getting a pre 2001 model, but as another poster said no doubt this loophole will be closed. Realistically I was thinking about getting a Vectra estate, they don't look too much smaller than the Omega. Anyone any experience of Vectras? Might get one thats 2-3 years old and put LPG on it. Best model/engine to go for?
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Kevin makes a good point re some families cutting back on their smaller economical cars and just running one large family car. They're putting up road tax, but with no reduction on petrol duty or any other motoring levy. Its totally shaft the motorist again!
We have three young children and a dog and the Omega is ideal. We also have a Mini for running around locally and we can't sell the Mini, they are soooo much fun.
I was thinking about getting a pre 2001 model, but as another poster said no doubt this loophole will be closed. Realistically I was thinking about getting a Vectra estate, they don't look too much smaller than the Omega. Anyone any experience of Vectras? Might get one thats 2-3 years old and put LPG on it. Best model/engine to go for?
Well i can tell you one thing this goverment will not put me off the road in our miggys, i know some families are not in the same position,
I will drive what i want, when i want and break the goverment, i love this country to bits, i served for her, but I am now thinking of moving on, not because of the country, but because of the idiots running it and allowing things to go out of hand. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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my experence of the vectra is that its not as well built as the omega and the only ones worth having are the diesels (not the 3 litre) the 2.8v6 turbo and the 3.2 petrol are more thirsty than an omega. not much room in the back if the driver is tall. they spend alot of time in the garage being repairedand the 3 litre diesel is very slow and not very economical
buy an older omega :y
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Road tax isn't the only thing depressing about the UK.
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Well im still confused by the dvla website.......
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
It clearly says at the top of the table for cars registered after 1st March 2001......but.....
Band G says for cars registered on or after 23 March 2006......
So how I read that is......no Omega will pay more than £210 :-/
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Kevin makes a good point re some families cutting back on their smaller economical cars and just running one large family car. They're putting up road tax, but with no reduction on petrol duty or any other motoring levy. Its totally shaft the motorist again!
We have three young children and a dog and the Omega is ideal. We also have a Mini for running around locally and we can't sell the Mini, they are soooo much fun.
I was thinking about getting a pre 2001 model, but as another poster said no doubt this loophole will be closed. Realistically I was thinking about getting a Vectra estate, they don't look too much smaller than the Omega. Anyone any experience of Vectras? Might get one thats 2-3 years old and put LPG on it. Best model/engine to go for?
Personally I wouldnt convert a Vectra to lpg........buy a vx dual fuel one instead.
You can pick up a 1.8 Dual Fuel VeccyC .... 3 years old for around 4k at auctions......I know ;)
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Well im still confused by the dvla website.......
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10012524
It clearly says at the top of the table for cars registered after 1st March 2001......but.....
Band G says for cars registered on or after 23 March 2006......
So how I read that is......no Omega will pay more than £210 :-/
Thats the way i read it.cannot seem to find out.gonna ring DVLA on Monday.
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_4022118
Read this..........tax class, what do you read it as saying??????
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Thats the road tax levels that apply at the moment, but they're going to add another five levels beyond "G" so H, I, J , K and L I guess. The 3.2 Omegas are a hefty 284 co2 rating so from March 2009 those cars registered after March 2001 will be taxed at £440 a year.
You can check which tax applies to your car here http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20786
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_4022118
Read this..........tax class, what do you read it as saying??????
the same as the table........ie you only pay the band G if your car is 2006
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Road tax isn't the only thing depressing about the UK.
You're damned right there. Another of my hobbies that is in danger of being legislated out of existence is gliding. All to make way for the relentless expansion of our airports and commercial air travel.
If it's not good for the environment to run an Omega why doesn't the same apply to a fleet of airliners?
Kevin
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_4022118
Read this..........tax class, what do you read it as saying??????
the same as the table........ie you only pay the band G if your car is 2006
Additional tax bands only used to apply for new cars, and band G was brought in in 2006, so only applied to cars registered after the new band was added.
Next year the whole system gets ripped up and replaced with new bands, and they will apply to all cars post March 2001. Hence it will apply retrospectively.
This means a doubling (give or take) in road tax for all post 2001 petrol Omegas.
Kevin
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Thats the road tax levels that apply at the moment, but they're going to add another five levels beyond "G" so H, I, J , K and L I guess. The 3.2 Omegas are a hefty 284 co2 rating so from March 2009 those cars registered after March 2001 will be taxed at £440 a year.
You can check which tax applies to your car here http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20786
I have......and think parkers have got it wrong........
It says on the link i posted (dvla website) ....i quote
"The rates shown apply to tax discs taken out from 13 March 2008"
Parkers site also says i quote
"Rates effective from 13 March 2008"
So who's correct .......id tend to believe the dvla site more than parkers :-/
You are correct with the info for 2009.......but Parkers says from 13th March 2008
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Anyway mine would be £415 for my 2.2 from 2009........and i aint paying that.....once ive fixed a couple of niggles...it will be sold....end off!!
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Parkers looks right (and same as DLVA) to me. They are listing the 2008, 2009 and 2010 rates.
Tried a few makes and models and anything you don't practically have to peddle yourself doubles in road tax in 2009.
Kevin
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Taxi, I would love you to be correct, but have a bad feeling about this one.
Can anyone tell me what the (LT) stands for for in "3.2 V6 24V Elite 5d Auto (LT)"? I've always wanted to know. Is it Loveable Tank???
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Taxi, I would love you to be correct, but have a bad feeling about this one.
Can anyone tell me what the (LT) stands for for in "3.2 V6 24V Elite 5d Auto (LT)"? I've always wanted to know. Is it Loveable Tank???
Leather trim
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Parkers looks right (and same as DLVA) to me. They are listing the 2008, 2009 and 2010 rates.
Tried a few makes and models and anything you don't practically have to peddle yourself doubles in road tax in 2009.
Kevin
Sorry.....i double checked parkers site.......i was miss reading it :-[
Still my 2.2 is up for sale.......i aint paying that road tax......
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Taxi, I would love you to be correct, but have a bad feeling about this one.
Can anyone tell me what the (LT) stands for for in "3.2 V6 24V Elite 5d Auto (LT)"? I've always wanted to know. Is it Loveable Tank???
Leather trim
True........but dunno why they give that option........is there a tax on having cow in your car now as well ::)
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Taxi, I would love you to be correct, but have a bad feeling about this one.
Can anyone tell me what the (LT) stands for for in "3.2 V6 24V Elite 5d Auto (LT)"? I've always wanted to know. Is it Loveable Tank???
Leather trim
True........but dunno why they give that option........is there a tax on having cow in your now as well ::)
Yeh.its to pay for the foot and mouth break up
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Taxi, I would love you to be correct, but have a bad feeling about this one.
Can anyone tell me what the (LT) stands for for in "3.2 V6 24V Elite 5d Auto (LT)"? I've always wanted to know. Is it Loveable Tank???
Leather trim
True........but dunno why they give that option........is there a tax on having cow in your now as well ::)
Yeh.its to pay for the foot and mouth break up
;D ;D ;DLMAO
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Let's all bugger off abroad.
....or better still, just don't pay it. There's no room left in our prisons after all! :D I'd start chewing as much fuel as you can now gents before they start taxing our fresh air :y