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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: ozzycat on 14 December 2011, 22:29:22

Title: display ribon
Post by: ozzycat on 14 December 2011, 22:29:22
hello everybody :y
would it be possible to swap agood ribon out of a mid with grey 32pin plug into a mid display whith a black & yellow plugs
any helpwould be aprieciated
regards kevin :-\ :) :)
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2011, 22:33:07
If you have the capability to reattach the ribbons to LCD and PCB, you will be everyone's friend...  ...and I have some Rover ones that need doing ;D
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: ozzycat on 14 December 2011, 22:56:29
i intend to folow repair gide but just swaop the ribons complete with conectors v
ijust wanted to know if they are interchageable [thats  abig word for me]
thanks kevin
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: freecall666 on 15 December 2011, 04:53:55
grey screen type has 2 ribons, yellow plug screen type has 1 ribon...
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: freecall666 on 15 December 2011, 06:06:25
grey screen type has 2 ribons, yellow plug screen type has 1 ribon...
Different size on gray one to yellow one.
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: Dave DND on 15 December 2011, 09:25:43
Easy answer -

No, you can`t !!

Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: ozzycat on 15 December 2011, 10:48:00
 :y :y
ok thanks for help  :( :( ::) :y
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: moggy on 15 December 2011, 18:55:43
If you have the capability to reattach the ribbons to LCD and PCB, you will be everyone's friend...  ...and I have some Rover ones that need doing ;D
By the way TB,when you say capability what do you mean.As i am working for an electronics company at the moment.And i have been given permission to use all and any equipment,at work or home.As well as myself and my wife are certified J std solderers.What would we need, and can new ribbons be sourced.Just a thought :y
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2011, 19:09:56
If you have the capability to reattach the ribbons to LCD and PCB, you will be everyone's friend...  ...and I have some Rover ones that need doing ;D
By the way TB,when you say capability what do you mean.As i am working for an electronics company at the moment.And i have been given permission to use all and any equipment,at work or home.As well as myself and my wife are certified J std solderers.What would we need, and can new ribbons be sourced.Just a thought :y
Capability to reconnect ribbon to LCD glass.

IN the case of Rovers, its not often the ribbon (is occasionally, but rear window paint can fix that), but just a poor connection between ribbon and LCD glass, or connection between ribbon and PCB.

Suspect Omega displays are similar.
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: moggy on 15 December 2011, 19:53:15
If you have the capability to reattach the ribbons to LCD and PCB, you will be everyone's friend...  ...and I have some Rover ones that need doing ;D
By the way TB,when you say capability what do you mean.As i am working for an electronics company at the moment.And i have been given permission to use all and any equipment,at work or home.As well as myself and my wife are certified J std solderers.What would we need, and can new ribbons be sourced.Just a thought :y
Capability to reconnect ribbon to LCD glass.

IN the case of Rovers, its not often the ribbon (is occasionally, but rear window paint can fix that), but just a poor connection between ribbon and LCD glass, or connection between ribbon and PCB.

Suspect Omega displays are similar.
So i would have no problem with ribbon to pcb,because the ribbon wire would be soldered to pads.With the ribbon to lcd glass,is another matter.It may be soldered to lcd glass with pads,or it may be heat transferred.We happen to have a heat transfer machine at work,is there a picture of the ribbons on the display any where on the forum. :y
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2011, 20:52:00
If you have the capability to reattach the ribbons to LCD and PCB, you will be everyone's friend...  ...and I have some Rover ones that need doing ;D
By the way TB,when you say capability what do you mean.As i am working for an electronics company at the moment.And i have been given permission to use all and any equipment,at work or home.As well as myself and my wife are certified J std solderers.What would we need, and can new ribbons be sourced.Just a thought :y
Capability to reconnect ribbon to LCD glass.

IN the case of Rovers, its not often the ribbon (is occasionally, but rear window paint can fix that), but just a poor connection between ribbon and LCD glass, or connection between ribbon and PCB.

Suspect Omega displays are similar.
So i would have no problem with ribbon to pcb,because the ribbon wire would be soldered to pads.With the ribbon to lcd glass,is another matter.It may be soldered to lcd glass with pads,or it may be heat transferred.We happen to have a heat transfer machine at work,is there a picture of the ribbons on the display any where on the forum. :y
Don't think any is soldered, just stuck on...
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: ozzycat on 15 December 2011, 22:45:02
hi its me again
you can get ribons from this firm from
 about 20 quid   diyspareparts.net/opel.html
they are none soldering
thanks kev :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: freecall666 on 16 December 2011, 02:41:08
hi its me again
you can get ribons from this firm from
 about 20 quid   diyspareparts.net/opel.html
they are none soldering
thanks kev :y :y :y :y
thanks for  that may be able to get the 10 or so i have, get fixed now. :y :y
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: Humpy on 16 December 2011, 09:11:08
The last one I had apart looked like it was glued (or electronic equivalent, ultra sonic?) as it definately wasn't soldered. On looking closely it looks like the ribbon was just disintegrating (this was an early two socket MID) as when I carefully tried to undo it all it just fell apart  :-[

Humpy
Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: Dave DND on 16 December 2011, 09:37:25
The ribbons are readily available from quite a few places for a mere few pence usually.

But as they are chemically / heat bonded to the glass, they are of little use as they require some very specific and expensive machinery to join them together.

Hand held soldering devices are of no use as you cannot get a "level" clamp / bond, and a bench mounted bonding machine with clamps and jigs was around the £3K mark secondhand when I last enquired a few months ago.

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Title: Re: display ribon
Post by: moggy on 16 December 2011, 13:57:48
The ribbons are readily available from quite a few places for a mere few pence usually.

But as they are chemically / heat bonded to the glass, they are of little use as they require some very specific and expensive machinery to join them together.

Hand held soldering devices are of no use as you cannot get a "level" clamp / bond, and a bench mounted bonding machine with clamps and jigs was around the £3K mark secondhand when I last enquired a few months ago.

(http://www.dndservices.co.uk/smiley/sad-smiley-046.gif)
You are right Dave,chemical/heat bonded asked at work today.My boss said i am welcome to use the bonding machine,but i will have to buy the clamps and jigs myself.I am going to look in to it,as i could probably recoup my outlay repairing them.I will keep you posted,Dean