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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 27 December 2011, 18:32:50
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Anybody have any experience of this? This piece of crap is now standard issue on our laptops, you plug any portable hard drive in and it asks you do you want to encrypt it with bit locker?
If you don't, it makes it read only. >:(
I've an external drive I use for backups & I don't want to encrypt it.
Anyone had any experience of disabling it via registry or any other method? ???
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More to the point....disabling it is probably a disciplinary, so be careful :y
We use to have similar....before they even removed read access!
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More to the point....disabling it is probably a disciplinary, so be careful :y
We use to have similar....before they even removed read access!
Apparently you can get approval for disabling it, but can see that taking 6months to approve!
Its bloody annoying, I use an external drive here as an "off site" backup for my personal photos, I simply want to copy them across but no, thats too simple for this crap extra.
The bugger is if you do encrypt it, makes it useless to access from other computer >:( >:( >:(
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Storing your own data on the work laptop may be a no-no too :y
(sorry, not trying to be a pain, more help, I'd check your IT policy carefully)
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Storing your own data on the work laptop may be a no-no too :y
(sorry, not trying to be a pain, more help, I'd check your IT policy carefully)
No probs, don't recall ever being told its a no-no. But I bet it could be hidden in the T&C's
Been Googling for a while now, just cannot find a "nice-n-simple" registry "patch"
My previous XP laptop had number of non "standard" patches applied to make it better. Never got noticed ;D
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Storing your own data on the work laptop may be a no-no too :y
(sorry, not trying to be a pain, more help, I'd check your IT policy carefully)
No probs, don't recall ever being told its a no-no. But I bet it could be hidden in the T&C's
Been Googling for a while now, just cannot find a "nice-n-simple" registry "patch"
My previous XP laptop had number of non "standard" patches applied to make it better. Never got noticed ;D
You guys know more about the application of 'patches' to software than I do but I will remind you that no discussion of 'alternate' or circumvention methods of software on here please......
:y
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If you can't disable Bitlocker in the Control Panel, then it's odds on you won't have the necessary priveleges to edit the registry either.
Why not just boot the laptop from a live *nix CD?
That way you aren't interfering with the operation of the laptop in any way, shape or form....and hence can't be in breach of any T&C's as far as the IT equipment is concerned ;)
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If you can't disable Bitlocker in the Control Panel, then it's odds on you won't have the necessary priveleges to edit the registry either.
Yep, can't believe there'll be an easy way to circumvent it with grunt user privileges, and for good reason. It's there to stop company data being lifted gigabytes at a time. ;)
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let it transfer them as read only then run a batch program to change them from read only
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let it transfer them as read only then run a batch program to change them from read only
The entire drive will be mounted read only unless it has been encrypted, so no way to transfer anything onto it.
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How about copying your
porn stash holiday snaps to dropbox then you can move em anywhere you wish.
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try turning it off on start up in msconfig and services
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try turning it off on start up in msconfig and services
He won't have the privelege level to modify them either if he can't do as I said above.
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Like Jimbob said, be careful about the legalities of disabling any encryption software. Even the NHS trust I work for has strict disciplinary protocols against disabling or using a non encrypted device within their network.
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let it transfer them as read only then run a batch program to change them from read only
You can't transfer items when the disk is read only, its write protected, you cannot copy to it ;)
If you can't disable Bitlocker in the Control Panel, then it's odds on you won't have the necessary priveleges to edit the registry either.
Why not just boot the laptop from a live *nix CD?
That way you aren't interfering with the operation of the laptop in any way, shape or form....and hence can't be in breach of any T&C's as far as the IT equipment is concerned ;)
I have full admin rights, if I knew what registry command to run, it would work....
How about copying your porn stash holiday snaps to dropbox then you can move em anywhere you wish.
While I'm a big fan of dropbox, its not suitable for uploading 4.5Gb!
Like Jimbob said, be careful about the legalities of disabling any encryption software. Even the NHS trust I work for has strict disciplinary protocols against disabling or using a non encrypted device within their network.
Not worried about that, my previous XP laptop was heavily modified from its original shipped state :)
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let it transfer them as read only then run a batch program to change them from read only
You can't transfer items when the disk is read only, its write protected, you cannot copy to it ;)
I missed the read only disc bit ::) ;)
does this help?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-vista/What-is-the-difference-between-disabling-BitLocker-Drive-Encryption-and-decrypting-the-volume
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http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766295%28WS.10%29.aspx
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Bitlocker is a great piece of software, compared to the other options like McAfee Safeboot. I'm sure you fully understand why it has to be encrypted.
In a corporate environment, I wouldn't mind betting you are not supposed to be storing personal photos, vids and music on a work provided machine :-X
With Bitlocker, you select what drives to encrypt, and there is an option to enforce encryption of 'new' devices as the machine sees them. I wouldn't mind betting these settings are enforced via GPO, so as a minimum, you will likely need to be a Domain Administrator to block the inheritence of the settings for a specific OU (which would block it for every machine in that OU (Bitlocker is a PC specific option, not User specific)).
Assuming you're not a Domain Admin - a fair assumption I think given your skillset - the only option is out via the network, as in take the machine home and map a drive to your own PC.
I do know of ways to bypass GPO (temporarily) if you are an Admin of the PC, but you're in a whole world of getting sacked for doing such things - your company have turned bitlocker on (its not on by default), and presumably enforcing it via GPO, thus its mandatory. Its safe to assume that bypassing that would, rightly, end up with a nice shiny P45.
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and there is an option to enforce encryption of 'new' devices as the machine sees them.
Assuming you're not a Domain Admin - a fair assumption I think given your skillset - the only option is out via the network, as in take the machine home and map a drive to your own PC.
Yeah I am not a domain admin, only local. Sadly it is also enforced for any new plug in drive, I can see the point, as its been known for people to leave laptops on trains. But it renders working with external drives impossible. Going to have to think of a "business" excuse I think to get it disabled.
Unfortunately I don't have a machine at my parents any more. Just an external HD, I was just using the works laptop as a transport device to take them home as a backup. Although I do have some spare machines lying around I could setup :-\
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Do your folks not have a PC? What are you surfing on now (I hope not works laptop, as I wouldn't mind betting that would be a good bare bum spanking from Uncle Rupert)?
Copy files to that (via network), then onto portable drive (or the other way round, not sure if you are copying pictures to or from)
In a works environment, I've never seen a suitable business justification to not have encryption. A portable drive/flash is more likely to get lost than a laptop ;)
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Currently using works laptop ::) - Never been told can't use it as a personal machine too. Because I am on-call 1 week in 5 too, even more reason I keep it at home a lot.
Wireless network here only G spec, fatherT usings work laptop too. Only machine ours now is mother T's - Guess only option is RJ45 into the router, external drive in motherT's laptop. Map a drive & copy :(
Trouble I've been having thinking of an excuse, hence finding a work around!
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Currently using works laptop ::) - Never been told can't use it as a personal machine too. Because I am on-call 1 week in 5 too, even more reason I keep it at home a lot.
Wireless network here only G spec, fatherT usings work laptop too. Only machine ours now is mother T's - Guess only option is RJ45 into the router, external drive in motherT's laptop. Map a drive & copy :(
Trouble I've been having thinking of an excuse, hence finding a work around!
Read your IT policy when back in office. In my experience, ignorance has never worked as an excuse to avoid the 'rock and roll' (Dole queue). I sail close to the wind in most things at our place, but even I haven't used a current works lappy for personal use for 10+ years ;)
If its several Gb, RJ45 will always be better. If both are gigabit cards, and the router is 100Mb, I'd just use a direct cable (most modern machines are auto mdx). Most wifi can at best manage similar speed to a 10Mb hub (so HD), even N.
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router is quite old, not even Gigabit. :(
Hummm the MacBook Pro we have does not have BitLocker, they won't miss that ::) ;D
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router is quite old, not even Gigabit. :(
Hummm the MacBook Pro we have does not have BitLocker, they won't miss that ::) ;D
The crApple won't do NTFS, so stuck with FAT32, max filesize is 4Gb (by default), so be careful if zipping up lots of files to copy.
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Talking of useful items for file tansfers, Santa brought me a 32Gb USB stick :D
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router is quite old, not even Gigabit. :(
Hummm the MacBook Pro we have does not have BitLocker, they won't miss that ::) ;D
The crApple won't do NTFS, so stuck with FAT32, max filesize is 4Gb (by default), so be careful if zipping up lots of files to copy.
It 'can' do NTFS, though .. MacFuse + ntfs3g; although the free version of ntfs3g is now 'crippleware' in that it's slow as molasses while the 'paid' version is fast (they used to be identical). I think there's another alternative, but I've never looked as I've not had to write to an NTFS drive for a while.
(It does read only natively, but that's obviously not much use to tunnie)
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Yeah, aware OSX does have some (commercial) NTFS capability - similar to old fashion NTFSDOS PC utils - but watching tunnie pay for such tools would be a site to behold ;D
What I meant, is for the OP, there aren't really viable NTFS options, whereas FAT32 works fine, but have to work around the default 4Gb file limit :)