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Title: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 March 2008, 17:32:53
Just had a puncture in the works van, as we don't carry a spare it was ATS to the rescue.
On returning to the depot I read the paperwork to find the tyre fitting ape had signed to say he had torqued the wheelnuts to 160 Nm, but he only used the windygun so either;
A, ATS have calibrated impact wrenches on their service vehicles.
B, The lying muppet just did it up to max torque and called it a day.

Why do these companies employ such rather knuckle draggers?
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: miggy on 17 March 2008, 17:38:20
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Just had a puncture in the works van, as we don't carry a spare it was ATS to the rescue.
On returning to the depot I read the paperwork to find the tyre fitting ape had signed to say he had torqued the wheelnuts to 160 Nm, but he only used the windygun so either;
A, ATS have calibrated impact wrenches on their service vehicles.
B, The lying muppet just did it up to max torque and called it a day.

Why do these companies employ such rather knuckle draggers?

rather idiots they are, the daughters boyfriend took to have his new alloys balanced again, he went to ATS.

I changed his pads and discs yesterday, i had to use an 18" extension bar to remove the studs, they should only be done up to 90Nm, these rather dic"heads dont understand that doing them up this tight does more harm than good.

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: Debs. on 17 March 2008, 17:38:22
Pay.....Peanuts.....& Monkeys come to mind!  ::)
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: miggy on 17 March 2008, 17:39:40
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Pay.....Peanuts.....& Monkeys come to mind!  ::)


I would call them Gorillas the way the studs were done up... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 March 2008, 17:44:40
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Pay.....Peanuts.....& Monkeys come to mind!  ::)


I would call them Gorillas the way the studs were done up... ;D ;D ;D
Impact wrench set to max torque and its easy to do Pete.
Aparently from todays proceedings 4 clicks of the clutch is 160Nm.
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: miggy on 17 March 2008, 17:55:29
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Pay.....Peanuts.....& Monkeys come to mind!  ::)


I would call them Gorillas the way the studs were done up... ;D ;D ;D
Impact wrench set to max torque and its easy to do Pete.
Aparently from todays proceedings 4 clicks of the clutch is 160Nm.

Pri*ks... >:( >:( Just let one of them damage my polished alloys  >:( >:( >:( I always insist they use a torque wrence and not the air gun. :y
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 March 2008, 18:36:45
A windy wrench is never going to give a calibrated torque setting no matter what they say. It's very disturbing that they didn't at least check it with a torque wrench afterwards, even if they were, as usual, only confirming that they had tightened it to at least the safe torque setting.

If he'd picked up a worn wrench or the air pressure was low it could have only given you 50 lb.ft. :o

I'd go out and check the torque if I were you.

Kevin
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 March 2008, 18:40:24
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A windy wrench is never going to give a calibrated torque setting no matter what they say. It's very disturbing that they didn't at least check it with a torque wrench afterwards, even if they were, as usual, only confirming that they had tightened it to at least the safe torque setting.

If he'd picked up a worn wrench or the air pressure was low it could have only given you 50 lb.ft. :o

I'd go out and check the torque if I were you.

Kevin
Company van Kevin, I'll get our local fitter to check em when he's in the depot.
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: markey mark on 17 March 2008, 18:43:28
there isnt such a thing as a calibrated windy gun matey !! what a bunch of muppetts !! :o :o
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 March 2008, 18:46:18
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there isnt such a thing as a calibrated windy gun matey !! what a bunch of muppetts !! :o :o
LOL must be mate ATS have em  ;D
Frightening think is the same chimp will be called out to change truck tyres too.
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: zippo on 17 March 2008, 18:46:28
The wife took mine our car to have new tyres to day .just nipped out to have a quick look see at them .Didn't get that far because i was dancing around the car in a proper rage ,both front wheels are mess, scratch and pitted .Some one at ATS is going to get it in the morning .
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: CaptainZok on 17 March 2008, 18:49:16
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The wife took mine our car to have new tyres to day .just nipped out to have a quick look see at them .Didn't get that far because i was dancing around the car in a proper rage ,both front wheels are mess, scratch and pitted .Some one at ATS is going to get it in the morning .
This herbert was from their Heap Bridge depot according to the paperwork, looks like his colleagues are trained to a similar standard at your local one.
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: zippo on 17 March 2008, 19:03:21
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The wife took mine our car to have new tyres to day .just nipped out to have a quick look see at them .Didn't get that far because i was dancing around the car in a proper rage ,both front wheels are mess, scratch and pitted .Some one at ATS is going to get it in the morning .
This herbert was from their Heap Bridge depot according to the paperwork, looks like his colleagues are trained to a similar standard at your local one.
surely its just as easy to do a job right than to make a town halls of it .Its not as though its rocket science is it. what a bunch of throbbers
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 March 2008, 19:10:48
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there isnt such a thing as a calibrated windy gun matey !! what a bunch of muppetts !! :o :o

There is I'm afraid, we use them everyday at work :y
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: markey mark on 17 March 2008, 19:17:26
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there isnt such a thing as a calibrated windy gun matey !! what a bunch of muppetts !! :o :o

There is I'm afraid, we use them everyday at work :y

only with metered air pressure and deffo not in tyre bay bud !! ;D
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 March 2008, 19:42:53
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there isnt such a thing as a calibrated windy gun matey !! what a bunch of muppetts !! :o :o

There is I'm afraid, we use them everyday at work :y

only with metered air pressure and deffo not in tyre bay bud !! ;D

the ones we use cost around 4 grand each apparently, but they do knock off a the specific torque setting :y
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: Andy B on 17 March 2008, 20:25:19
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..... but they do knock off a the specific torque setting :y

Our ATS's windy guns knock off at f***ing tight. They tightened my wheel nuts up on one occasion, the next day I bent my whel brace trying to undo the buggers. I'd to drive down there & get 'em to slacken them off. Lucky I wasn't on the motorway in the piddling rain! >:(
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: Tony H on 17 March 2008, 20:49:44
In todays "where theres a blame theres a claim" culture it would be interesting to see what would happen if the muppets had not torqued up the wheel nuts as per makers spec. and it caused a failure of wheel security :-?
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 17 March 2008, 21:58:09
We had a juddering come through the steering a while back so when i got to the next drop which was 500yds from when the juddering started the drivers mate i was with noticed some fluid on the floor so igets down there and crawled under turns out to be steering fluid leaking out so we called DAF aid out...he cranks the cab forward finds the union joint on the power steering loose tightens it up and refills the system takes it for a test drive round the block comes back and says it dont feel right so cranks the cab forward and looks around the engine by this time i`m stood next to o/s front wheel and it looks like its tilted so i point this out and he jacks the wheel up and looks underneath his face goes white and tells me the ball joint is missing!!! i`m pissing meself the d/mate is nearly choking on his coffee the cust gave us you could move the wheel left to right about 5-10 inches....the gaffer got the bill 3 days later from DAF £2,500 in recovery and repairs apparantly we driven with this fault for more than a day according to them....I had defected said wagon the night before with an amber brake warning light  that would not go out only to be told thats ok you can drive on that for 10,000 miles its just a brake pad sensor warning?????Now top that for a gaffer putting his foot in it and putting said vehicle on the road good job i kept my copy of the defect notice said gaffer is now having to go through disciplinary procedure and retraining as he holds the only cpc for the depot..... ;) ;)
Title: Re: Calibrated Windyguns.
Post by: zippo on 18 March 2008, 23:34:59
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The wife took mine our car to have new tyres to day .just nipped out to have a quick look see at them .Didn't get that far because i was dancing around the car in a proper rage ,both front wheels are mess, scratch and pitted .Some one at ATS is going to get it in the morning .

IT WASNT ATS happy i found out before i let rip at them tho  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[