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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: millwall on 10 January 2012, 16:28:29
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no theres no pics ;D
its going to potentially cost the NHS £158MILLION to replace these womans tits.
Not mine or your fault that due to their inital veiness that they now have a problem.
And yet the NHS (in wales at least) will not only get the corrupted tits out (i just about accept this on the NHS) but will then replace them with Made IN Britain Tits costing me and you money.
Fkin Scaandalous IMO - when there are Cancer patients refused particular drugs because they are too expensive.
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There are reasons other than just vanity for breast implants on the NHS.. in fact I imagine most NHS implants would be reconstructive (eg. post mastectomy for cancer patients).
Last I heard, they were only replacing implants that were initially put in on the NHS - and I don't think vanity is a criteria the NHS used for giving people breast implants.. at least based on the fights women I know have had to have things like breast reductions where there were clear medical problems.
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these were from private clinics not done by nhs due to illness
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I suppose that's different, then.. still, it's almost certainly much cheaper to do this than the potential cost of treating all these women for necrosis and the extensive reconstructive surgery they'd probably require should the silicone funbags rupture unknown..
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french exploding titty bags exploding certainly doesnt sound nice
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french exploding titty bags exploding certainly doesnt sound nice
Are we still talking about boobs, or Sarkozy? ;D
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french exploding titty bags exploding certainly doesnt sound nice
Are we still talking about boobs, or Sarkozy? ;D
well they are both tits ;D
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If the NHS put them in for reconstructive surgery then the NHS should replace them :y :y
If they were done at a private clinic for purely cosmetic surgery then that clinic should remove or replace them.
If they need removal, and the clinic that did them is no longer operating then the NHS should remove them only for health reasons. :y
We should not have to stump up because some vain woman wanted augmentation. I find it funny with plastic tits pointing with skyward when a woman is sun bathing topless, and they don't bounce properly when she runs. ;D ;D ;D
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I was going to do a new posting on this but suspected it would degenerate io a fairly base level.
For me it is quite simple. If the Clinics used cheap implants that have subsequently turned out to POTENTIALLY rupture and cause issues then they should correct the problem free of charge.
However the situation is clouded somewhat by the implants used being cleared by our own government health authorities. What they didn't know is that the PIP French company used industrial grade silicon rather than medical grade so in the event of a rupture the issues woul;dn't be so bad........... I bet the French company has gone bust (sic) and so can't be sued.
40,000 women in Britain potentially affected.
Clinics are profit making establisments. Breast implants are BIG business. They are hardly likely to fall over themselves rushing forward to do free replacements with pukka quality jobs.
And why do women mostly have breast enlargements..................Men and damn marketing.
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Any woman having them replaced at our expense should have to walk with them out so we can all enjoy them. :D :D ;D
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I cant see that they have implants to please men. Ive yet to meet a man who finds fake boobs remotely attractive.
Personally,I dont have a hell of a lot of sympathy for women who mutilate their natural bodies for reasons of misplaced vanity.
Goes without saying - women who have had reconstruction after surgery etc. is a different thing altogether.
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french exploding titty bags exploding certainly doesnt sound nice
Are we still talking about boobs, or Sarkozy? ;D
Can't stop laughin'''''
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I cant see that they have implants to please men. Ive yet to meet a man who finds fake boobs remotely attractive.
Personally,I dont have a hell of a lot of sympathy for women who mutilate their natural bodies for reasons of misplaced vanity.
Goes without saying - women who have had reconstruction after surgery etc. is a different thing altogether.
My ex had 'em .. I couldn't even tell - and they were rather attractive..
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I used to work in the theatres of a private clinic in the early 90's. We didn't use PIP implants but ALL procedures were done on the stereotypical glamour girls or tarty women in their late 40's / early 50's.
It was possible to get them done on the NHS if you could convince a psychologist that your tiny baps were causing you mental distress( not difficult ),as you can nose jobs etc. The NHS has a duty of care to replace any they have put in but private clinics are a whole different ballgame, they will have made a tiny profit from renting out a room and a theatre wereas the surgeon will have walked away with 75% of the total cost, circa £3k minimum for 90 mins work.it would not be unusual for them to clear £12k for a mornings work :o
You tend to find that these surgeons have at least one child with the same initial and prefer payment by cheque to" R Smith" and the money popped in little Ruperts building society account/trust fund or whatever. The surgeon would choose who supplied the implants probably due to MAJOR backhander and will not give a flying shit about the current situation.
I have seen the effects of a burst implant and it's pretty grisly with one woman losing most of the muscle in her chest/armpit..But....
Private op= your choice=your problem, we shouldn't pay for replacement
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I was going to do a new posting on this but suspected it would degenerate io a fairly base level.
For me it is quite simple. If the Clinics used cheap implants that have subsequently turned out to POTENTIALLY rupture and cause issues then they should correct the problem free of charge.
However the situation is clouded somewhat by the implants used being cleared by our own government health authorities. What they didn't know is that the PIP French company used industrial grade silicon rather than medical grade so in the event of a rupture the issues woul;dn't be so bad........... I bet the French company has gone bust (sic) and so can't be sued.
40,000 women in Britain potentially affected.
Clinics are profit making establisments. Breast implants are BIG business. They are hardly likely to fall over themselves rushing forward to do free replacements with pukka quality jobs.
And why do women mostly have breast enlargements..................Men and damn marketing.
Quite the contary, when approved they contained medical grade silicon but, the manufacturers made a change without having them re-approved.
Clearly negligence on the manufacturers part but sadly an issue that needs to be sorted.
Interestingly, the NHS very rarely used this brand (thankfuly).
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Any woman having them replaced at our expense should have to walk with them out so we can all enjoy them. :D :D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Outstanding ;D ;D :y
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//...........I have seen the effects of a burst implant and it's pretty grisly with one woman losing most of the muscle in her chest/armpit..But....
Private op= your choice=your problem, we shouldn't pay for replacement
Yes, I think that's a fair enough comment Ome. :y
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Ah, but where does 'your choice, you pay' stop, when it comes to the NHS?
Obesity work? That's their own fault, right?
Alcoholism? That was their own fault, right?
What about the driver in a vehicle accident? It was their choice to drive...
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Ah, but where does 'your choice, you pay' stop, when it comes to the NHS?
Obesity work? That's their own fault, right?
Alcoholism? That was their own fault, right?
What about the driver in a vehicle accident? It was their choice to drive...
That's why there should be a charter between Government and the Electorate on what the NHS does and doesn't cover. If you knew that private clinic implants wearnt covered on the NHS then private insurance could be taken out to cover future treatment.
The advertising slogan could be along the lines of: "They can't be trusted to not be busted, can't afford a hit on that artificial tit, a leaking one is such a drag, along with the unsightly, uneven sag, what you need is the twin peaks uplifting insurance cover, every quote personally measured to fit to your exact requirements". ;D ;D ;D
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;D @ "twin peaks uplifting insurance cover" :y
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The government should be taking a tough line with these private cosmetic surgery clinics and forcing them to replace all the dodgy implants that they have sold over the years at a tidy profit!! It's probably more a case for Trading Standards than the NHS as these clinics have supplied a product that is not fit for purpose, and thus have a duty of care to their customers...
I guess the problem lies where clinics have gone bust (no pun intended! ;D)/disapeered etc and that's where the NHS will step in... ::)
Where the implants were supplied and fitted by the NHS for whatever reason then the duty of care lies with the NHS, and the NHS should act accordingly!
The response to this by the government has of course been woeful! ::)
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I cant see that they have implants to please men. Ive yet to meet a man who finds fake boobs remotely attractive.
Personally,I dont have a hell of a lot of sympathy for women who mutilate their natural bodies for reasons of misplaced vanity.
Goes without saying - women who have had reconstruction after surgery etc. is a different thing altogether.
Come on Albs, they're fantastic.
I perfer natural but after a trip to Poland a few years ago after reading about fake I think they'd still be fun :y
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The government should be taking a tough line with these private cosmetic surgery clinics and forcing them to replace all the dodgy implants that they have sold over the years at a tidy profit!! It's probably more a case for Trading Standards than the NHS as these clinics have supplied a product that is not fit for purpose, and thus have a duty of care to their customers...
I guess the problem lies where clinics have gone bust (no pun intended! ;D)/disapeered etc and that's where the NHS will step in... ::)
Where the implants were supplied and fitted by the NHS for whatever reason then the duty of care lies with the NHS, and the NHS should act accordingly!
The response to this by the government has of course been woeful! ::)
I think they have acted pretty well on this one to be honest, they have committed to sorting out any NHS ones and are actively encouraging the private outfits to support thier patients.
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I think that the hype over the NHS paying is mis-placed. The implants were purchased and fitted on the assumption that they were legal and conformed to safety standards. Now it is proven that they were misled the normal recourse would be to the manufacturer but that avenue is closed.
If you think that this is a vanity issue and they have themselves to blame then how different is it to a hyperthetical yet not implausable situation where:
- a woman using a face cream that turns out to be acid, or
- a man who uses a razor which, unbeknowst to him, is faulty and cuts his face badly
both getting treatment on the NHS? They would both have used a product in the beleif that they were safe and legal.
This is not a situation of vanity, this is a serious health protection issue with severe consequences should they burst both being removed.
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....If you think that this is a vanity issue and they have themselves to blame then how different is it to a hyperthetical yet not implausable situation where:
- a woman using a face cream that turns out to be acid, or
- a man who uses a razor which, unbeknowst to him, is faulty and cuts his face badly
both getting treatment on the NHS? They would both have used a product in the beleif that they were safe and legal.
This is not a situation of vanity, this is a serious health protection issue with severe consequences should they burst both being removed.
We have developed into a generation of ambulance chasers, much akin to the US model of 15 to 20 years ago.
If theres blame, theres a claim.... ::) ::) ::)
But, to an extent, I agree but - how far do you persue the original manufacturers?
The firm has gone down and thus no longer liable.
Initial product was in complience with spec but a hungry owner decided to use cheaper materials. Sue him?
The french have already rolled over and decided to carry out remedial operations - why not claim against them? It is/was a french firm...
The surgeons in the UK who did the work with duff implants - sue them?
Why should the already groaning at the seams NHS have to carry out the rearguard action? Yes, potential health issue - if they burst - but meantime, surely the recipient must have an alternate avenue to persue??
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Perhaps the NHS should replace them,but the recipients have to pay the same as they pay to have them put in ?