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Title: Body panels
Post by: venom on 23 January 2012, 13:08:20
I've decided I'm going to keep my Miggy even though the rot is getting really bad, but I'm having real trouble finding new rear panels for the estate, wheel arches not a problem but the ones I'm after is the rear quarter panel below the trim.
Any ideas please.
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 January 2012, 14:10:40
Hi Ken, it maybe worth PMing some of the breakers or putting a wanted in the parts section. I have personally never been asked for a rear quarter panel, so you may find the actual colour you need which a Breaker would cut off their scrap shell  :y

Add your colour code you maybe lucky  :y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: Webby the Bear on 23 January 2012, 14:30:41
Don't know about the estate but the rear quarter (if I've got the right part) on the saloon is welded on as opposed to plug 'n' play  ;D :y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: henryd on 23 January 2012, 15:22:54
Don't know about the estate but the rear quarter (if I've got the right part) on the saloon is welded on as opposed to plug 'n' play  ;D :y

It is welded in place Webby but a good panel man can drill out the spot welds on a scrapper,remove the quarter panel and use it again although quite a lot of graft involved.
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 January 2012, 16:41:28
 :y
Don't know about the estate but the rear quarter (if I've got the right part) on the saloon is welded on as opposed to plug 'n' play  ;D :y

It is welded in place Webby but a good panel man can drill out the spot welds on a scrapper,remove the quarter panel and use it again although quite a lot of graft involved.
:y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: Elite Pete on 23 January 2012, 18:18:37
Don't know about the estate but the rear quarter (if I've got the right part) on the saloon is welded on as opposed to plug 'n' play  ;D :y

It is welded in place Webby but a good panel man can drill out the spot welds on a scrapper,remove the quarter panel and use it again although quite a lot of graft involved.
It would cost an arm and a leg to get that done and wouldn't be cost effective in my opinion :(
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: henryd on 23 January 2012, 18:58:25
Don't know about the estate but the rear quarter (if I've got the right part) on the saloon is welded on as opposed to plug 'n' play  ;D :y

It is welded in place Webby but a good panel man can drill out the spot welds on a scrapper,remove the quarter panel and use it again although quite a lot of graft involved.
It would cost an arm and a leg to get that done and wouldn't be cost effective in my opinion :(

True enough,but if it was your own car and could be done by yourself its doable(I wouldn't unless it was something very rare and worth saving)
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 23 January 2012, 21:10:08
Would it be possible to get a good body man (or woman) to cut out and weld in some fresh steel from scratch?
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: Webby the Bear on 23 January 2012, 21:13:24
As Pete says, it's not cost effective. Mine's fully repaired and looks great, but the guy said the only fool proof way of not getting the rust back relatively quickly is to replace the panel at around a grand!

He said the moment you see rust get it sorted immediately and treat it as general maintenance  :y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: venom on 23 January 2012, 21:44:00
Don't know about the estate but the rear quarter (if I've got the right part) on the saloon is welded on as opposed to plug 'n' play  ;D :y

It is welded in place Webby but a good panel man can drill out the spot welds on a scrapper,remove the quarter panel and use it again although quite a lot of graft involved.
It would cost an arm and a leg to get that done and wouldn't be cost effective in my opinion :(

True enough,but if it was your own car and could be done by yourself its doable(I wouldn't unless it was something very rare and worth saving)

I'm only after the bottom section from the quarter

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/kenmacritchie/1373.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/kenmacritchie/1376.jpg)

I'm going to weld the panel in myself
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: tidla on 23 January 2012, 21:58:52
the breaker has not got to be to pretty in removing the section. the buyer can remove the excess at the spot welds or decided join point at leisure.
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: twiglet on 23 January 2012, 22:02:44
The biggest problem you are going to have with a breaker, is finding one that's not in a similar state to your own car mate.  That is a very common place for Omegas to rust.

As it's a relatively flat panel, I would go down the route of fabricating a new piece of steel yourself.  Most of it will be covered by the trim piece anyway.  :y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: venom on 23 January 2012, 22:43:08
The biggest problem you are going to have with a breaker, is finding one that's not in a similar state to your own car mate.  That is a very common place for Omegas to rust.

As it's a relatively flat panel, I would go down the route of fabricating a new piece of steel yourself.  Most of it will be covered by the trim piece anyway.  :y

If I cant find a decent used one thats what I'm going to do with Zintec sheet
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: venom on 24 January 2012, 20:31:15
Well no luck with the panels so looks like it's the end of my Omega ownership time & start looking at another make  :'(
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 January 2012, 21:31:05
A couple of productive days would see that sorted :y

Also, if t'other side is in a similar shape , repair both using later lower panels and pop a facelift bumper on it :y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: venom on 24 January 2012, 21:48:45
A couple of productive days would see that sorted :y

Also, if t'other side is in a similar shape , repair both using later lower panels and pop a facelift bumper on it :y

I did think of that already, but if I do that so the car won't look odd I'd have to change the front end so the bumpers are the same then thats front bumper frame, bonnet,lights ect  :( 
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 January 2012, 23:35:15
A couple of productive days would see that sorted :y

Also, if t'other side is in a similar shape , repair both using later lower panels and pop a facelift bumper on it :y

I did think of that already, but if I do that so the car won't look odd I'd have to change the front end so the bumpers are the same then thats front bumper frame, bonnet,lights ect  :( 

Why? F/L bumper will cover the lower panel, and re using the black quarter trims will finish it off nicely :y

Incidently, the OSR quarter on my 54 plate is a PF/L one :y

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=95407.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=95407.0) twelth pic down :y
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: venom on 25 January 2012, 09:07:02
A couple of productive days would see that sorted :y

Also, if t'other side is in a similar shape , repair both using later lower panels and pop a facelift bumper on it :y

I did think of that already, but if I do that so the car won't look odd I'd have to change the front end so the bumpers are the same then that's front bumper frame, bonnet,lights etc  :( 

Why? F/L bumper will cover the lower panel, and re using the black quarter trims will finish it off nicely :y

Incidently, the OSR quarter on my 54 plate is a PF/L one :y

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=95407.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=95407.0) twelth pic down :y

That's fantastic news  :y  as looking at the 2 models the f/l trim looks slimmer than my black trim so I didn't think they would fit together, I don't really want to get rid of it as it's one of the best cars I've owned so would like to get it up to scratch  :y :y 
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 January 2012, 18:19:56
If replacing the whole panel, take your time to find the seams :y.

The ones behind the tailgate are obvious, as are the ones inside the rear door. Once the quarter window is out, all bolts and no glue, the upper seam will be obvious :y. Lower edge is simply stuck to the wheel arch and spot welded around the bottom edge. Although they look different, the panels are the same shape below the trim line, so should keep things straight forward.

Even the clips for the trim are in the same position :y.

Good luck, Al :y.

p.s. window trim unscrews once window is out.
Title: Re: Body panels
Post by: venom on 25 January 2012, 20:10:40
 :y :y