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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Auto Addict on 02 February 2012, 09:50:26
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..or does this happen to anyone else?
I seem to come accross an awful lot of drivers, that when turning left out of a side road, only look to the right, scary when your in the middle of the road passing parked cars.
Then there's the other sort of idiot, that only looks left when turning right, less in numbers, but even more scary >:(
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Yes I have come accross one or two of them aswel. Mainly coming out of a car park opposite where I work, narrow road and they have to back off because the road is so narrow. It is fun to watch. In some of there defence it is down to inconsiderate parking by vans, people movers and 4x4s as people cannot see through them like you can a normal car.
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Another one is people that cant be arsed to flick the indicator switch on ...too much trouble for them >:(
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Another one is people that cant be arsed to flick the indicator switch on ...too much trouble for them >:(
Yes, brand new cars whose indicators don't work, I'd take them back and complain ::)
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Then there's the other sort of idiot, that only looks left when turning right, less in numbers, but even more scary >:(
That is something that I really cannot comprehend, plain common sense dictates that any potential danger will be coming at you from the right when exiting a side road so I always look right first.
Another one is people that cant be arsed to flick the indicator switch on ...too much trouble for them >:(
If there is nothing behind me and no peds waiting to cross where I intend to turn then more often than not I can't be bothered to indicate either, but that is because I don't see the point when there is nobody around to notify what my intentions are.
On the flip side, it is a bad habit because I do sometimes forget to indicate when there is a need to.
None of us are perfect by any means, but I do agree that the general standard of driving has definately declined in the last 25 years.
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That is something that I really cannot comprehend, plain common sense dictates that any potential danger will be coming at you from the right when exiting a side road so I always look right first.
Hasn't that become extinct, though? ::)
On the flip side, it is a bad habit because I do sometimes forget to indicate when there is a need to.
We'll let you off, as you're a BMW driver. ;)
You're right , though. Never before has there been such a need to drive defensively. Always some idiot whose journey is clearly so much more important than everybody else's, that the seas of traffic will simply part for them. Been caught out a couple of times myself where I've let my defences drop momentarily. Can't let that happen on today's roads. :(
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Then there's the other sort of idiot, that only looks left when turning right, less in numbers, but even more scary >:(
That is something that I really cannot comprehend, plain common sense dictates that any potential danger will be coming at you from the right when exiting a side road so I always look right first.Another one is people that cant be arsed to flick the indicator switch on ...too much trouble for them >:(
If there is nothing behind me and no peds waiting to cross where I intend to turn then more often than not I can't be bothered to indicate either, but that is because I don't see the point when there is nobody around to notify what my intentions are.
On the flip side, it is a bad habit because I do sometimes forget to indicate when there is a need to.
None of us are perfect by any means, but I do agree that the general standard of driving has definately declined in the last 25 years.
Right, Left and Right again is the way I was taught and it is second nature to me. :y
Some people just pull out when turning right. This happens to me nearly every morning when returning from my dog walk at one particular spot. I always slow down now but often have to brake hard because some muppet (taking the kids to school ::)) hasn't re checked right again and just pulled out into the major road right in front of me. >:( >:(
While we're on the subject people nowadays don't seem to know how to use a roundabout properly and the priority of giving way to the right. There is a three exit roundabout nearby, and the number of times I approach with all three lanes dithering about is on the increase >:(
That is better than them all going onto the roundabout at the same time I suppose ;D
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Right, Left and Right again is the way I was taught and it is second nature to me. :y
Some people just pull out when turning right. This happens to me nearly every morning when returning from my dog walk at one particular spot. I always slow down now but often have to brake hard because some muppet (taking the kids to school ::)) hasn't re checked right again and just pulled out into the major road right in front of me. >:( >:(
While we're on the subject people nowadays don't seem to know how to use a roundabout properly and the priority of giving way to the right. There is a three exit roundabout nearby, and the number of times I approach with all three lanes dithering about is on the increase >:(
That is better than them all going onto the roundabout at the same time I suppose ;D
Actually, I think the rule is to give way to traffic already on the roundabout. There is a subtle difference...
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Yes I have come accross one or two of them aswel. Mainly coming out of a car park opposite where I work, narrow road and they have to back off because the road is so narrow. It is fun to watch. In some of there defence it is down to inconsiderate parking by vans, people movers and 4x4s as people cannot see through them like you can a normal car.
yep..they generally park in corners so that you cant see anything >:(
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None of us are perfect by any means, but I do agree that the general standard of driving has definately declined in the last 25 years.
I'd say the decline has become a lot more pronounced more recently than that - say the last 5-10 years..
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Right, Left and Right again is the way I was taught and it is second nature to me. :y
Some people just pull out when turning right. This happens to me nearly every morning when returning from my dog walk at one particular spot. I always slow down now but often have to brake hard because some muppet (taking the kids to school ::)) hasn't re checked right again and just pulled out into the major road right in front of me. >:( >:(
While we're on the subject people nowadays don't seem to know how to use a roundabout properly and the priority of giving way to the right. There is a three exit roundabout nearby, and the number of times I approach with all three lanes dithering about is on the increase >:(
That is better than them all going onto the roundabout at the same time I suppose ;D
Actually, I think the rule is to give way to traffic already on the roundabout. There is a subtle difference...
That's how i believe it is.......and it really annoy's me and sometimes i nearly stop, to point out to the driver that thinks i should have given way to them, when i have beaten them accross the entrance to the mini roundabout, they drive to the right of the white circle on the roundabout (they are actually now driving around the roundabout the wrong way) and then sound their horn at me >:( But then i think whats the point trying to explain to a creten >:(
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What about the oppswits that look(sometimes both ways), pull out, decide to stop in the middle of the road and then look at you in terror as if they really hadn't noticed 6 tonnes of truck bearing down on them? When if they had finished their manouver everyone would have been safe.
Or the idiots who trundle down a motorway sliproad at 20mph, get to the end, flash the indicator and just pull out? They normally then accelerate to mach3 and move into the outside lane for the next 300 miles.
Any moron who decides that going down the side of an artic or bus that's turning deserves whatever they get.
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Let's throw in cyclist's for good measure, who totally ignore the highway code, blame motorists for their errors, and aren't insured >:( >:(
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All i can say is try driving around Spain
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
You will then realise how good general driving standards are in the UK :y
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On the flip side, it is a bad habit because I do sometimes forget to indicate when there is a need to.
We'll let you off, as you're a BMW driver. ;)
As a matter of fact, I DO own the road ;D ;D
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Or the idiots who trundle down a motorway sliproad at 20mph, get to the end, flash the indicator and just pull out? They normally then accelerate to mach3 and move into the outside lane for the next 300 miles.
I happened upon someone similar the other day - came down the approach road to the M3 two cars behind him, everyone moving at a decent clip (50ish, probably).. He got to the end of said approach road (single lane, sadly) and slowed down to 25mph before pulling into the inside lane and causing all the traffic to back up, simultaneously making it hells own job for the rest of us behind him to make it safely onto the M3.
Then he promptly pulled out into the middle lane and continued at 50mph - probably for the rest of his journey.
People like that need to be taken out and euthanised in front of their families.
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If a driver isn't confident enough to accelerate to match the traffic speed and merge in, using mirrors instead of "collision avoidance by random separation" they shouldn't have a license.
The problem is, none of this is required to be demonstrated on the drive round the block we call a driving test. >:(
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The problem is, none of this is required to be demonstrated on the drive round the block we call a driving test. >:(
Indeed - in my case it was something my driving instructor drummed into me, however, as every lesson included a trip down the dual carriageway stretch of the A19 between my home and Northallerton which was (in those days) a pretty quick stretch of road. Probably riddled with speed cameras now, of course!
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My personal favourite, which I may have mentioned on the forum before, is drivers who go in a straight line across roundabouts, cutting you off at the middle when you're in the inside lane, and 99% of the time, completely oblivious to your existence. See this every day >:(
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My personal favourite, which I may have mentioned on the forum before, is drivers who go in a straight line across roundabouts, cutting you off at the middle when you're in the inside lane, and 99% of the time, completely oblivious to your existence. See this every day >:(
That was close. I thoughrt you were going to mention daft slappers who drive right round the outside lane of the roundabout and take the back quarter of your car off as they continue round on a lane that doesn't exist. Oh, gawd! there goes that vein in my forehead again. >:(
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Years a go, a girl I knew rode her moped, straight out of a petrol station without looking left, straight into the path of a car overtaking another car. :o :o
Two broken legs and two months later, she was discharged from hospital. :o
Not looking left can cost you or somebody else their life!!! :o :o :o :o
I ALWAYS look into both directions at least twice, in case a moving bike, motorbike is obscured by an obstacle or my windscreen pillar on the first look.
As a motorcyclist, I tend to drive defensively as it has saved me from many potential accidents on my bike.
Retards not accelerating and following the highway code to match the speed of the traffic on a slip road when joining is now such a common problem, that when I'm behind one, I slow down even more so I drop back to create my own acceleration space, so I can join the road safely. Unfortunately, some slip roads are to short to do this, so I just curse as the rather retard are not only creating danger for themselves but me and other motorists as well. >:( >:( >:(
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If a driver isn't confident enough to accelerate to match the traffic speed and merge in, using mirrors instead of "collision avoidance by random separation" they shouldn't have a license.
The problem is, none of this is required to be demonstrated on the drive round the block we call a driving test. >:(
The trouble with any type of test that is designed to ascertain whether the pupil is good enough to carry out the task in hand is that it can never reflect a real life situation. I passed both car & bike tests back in 82, and back then it really was nothing more than a 20 minute ride around the block with half a dozen random questions at the end which proved nothing more than you had read the highway code at some point.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I believe a much more accurate result of someone's ability to carry out a given task is to throw them in at the deep end and let them get on with it.
Forget the theory & hazard perception crap (anybody can talk a good job), put the pupil in an old school (that means no electronic driving aids), big, heavy, powerful RWD car in the centre of any major town (preferably on a day where the weather is crap), and if they make it through that day without f***ing themselves or anybody else up in the process then they have passed.
Of course the above solution doesn't automatically make the pupil a good driver, but I firmly believe that real life experience (think "5 year time served apprenticeships") is far better a test than being sat in front of a computer occasionally clicking on the screen.
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My bug bears are:
1. Middle lane hogggers, oblivious to everything around them
2. F*ckwits, who pull out of junctions and fail to accelerate, thus causing traffic behind them to stamp on the brakes and proceed at 25mph in 40/50 or 60mph zone >:(
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As a motorcyclist, I tend to drive defensively as it has saved me from many potential accidents on my bike.
I think that's what did me a big favour IMO.
I find that having a ton of steel wrapped around me does make me occasionally "lapse" where defensive driving is concerned as I take it for granted that I have a degree of protection against injury if it all goes wrong, but there is absolutely no room for that same "lapse" when I'm on 2 wheels.
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I ALWAYS look into both directions at least twice, in case a moving bike, motorbike is obscured by an obstacle or my windscreen pillar on the first look.
I'm always amazed at how short a time people spend stopped at a junction before pulling out - like you I always look twice both ways, and most people don't seem to be stationary long enough to look once in one direction properly, let alone twice in both!
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Then you get the "didn't see you mate" where they have just pulled out in front of a 44 ton artic. :o :o :o :o
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the driver that will do 40 in a 60 but will happily continue through a 30 still doing 40
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I call them brain dead 45mph drivers as they seem to do 45mph everywhere, totally oblivious, to any hazards and other road users.
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also the middle lane hogger doing 60mph that i start to overtake,then decides that they will increase speed,doesnt help with that my vivaro is restricted to 68mph :-[
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the driver that will do 40 in a 60 but will happily continue through a 30 still doing 40
They really boil my urine! They've been about for years, though, as I distinctly remember people doing it when I was a new driver..
I followed one last night down the winding (no place to overtake) road home between Virginia Water and Ascot - 30mph all the way (despite it being 50 limit or NSL depending on the stretch), then as soon as they got to the streetlit parts of Ascot they sped up to 40, only slowing to 30 to go through the 20 limit highstreet (parked cars on both sides, pedestrians wandering around etc).. No hazard perception at all - if it were up to me I'd take their license away.
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The same on the A339 between Alton and Basingscrote. That's a nice twisty road with some long straight bits thrown in. A competent driver could do the whole stretch at the NSL, twisty bits included, without breaking a sweat.
You frequently get stuck behind some drivers who are happy to tear down the straights at 80 or 90, yet slow to 40 for every bend, regardless of how tight it is.
So, you're up for a bit of a play, yet can't judge the difference between a 40MPH bend and a 60+ bend? Frightening.
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and why are driving instuctors telling new drivers to pull out and go slow,i was told to pull out and then quickly get to the speed limit so as not to cause any incidents,and also the driver that brakes for the very slightest of bend arrgghhh,amd do you notice there is always a slow sign on the road for a bend but never 1 that says faster after it lol
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Another one is people that cant be arsed to flick the indicator switch on ...too much trouble for them >:(
Yes, brand new cars whose indicators don't work, I'd take them back and complain ::)
You're wrong there mate - they don't even fit indicators to new BMWs :o :o ;) (Sorry Martian :))
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Another one is people that cant be arsed to flick the indicator switch on ...too much trouble for them >:(
Yes, brand new cars whose indicators don't work, I'd take them back and complain ::)
You're wrong there mate - they don't even fit indicators to new BMWs :o :o ;) (Sorry Martian :))
;D ;D
Guilty as charged m'lud