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Title: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 14:10:00
In order to do the dispak i have taken a few steps that could be useful for some to note , im no expert by any means but when the jobs got to be done on a budget needs must ....God knows how much a garage would charge for this let alone vx  :D

First off un hook the bonnet rams and wedge the bonnet up high ....helps a lot .

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0032.jpg)

More pics will be laoded as i continue but this is where the PIG dispack is lurking . I tied the cables and pipes out the way with bungee cords for better access .


(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0030.jpg)


After much cursing and removing the bolts holding it in it came out and looked like this  :o :o :o


(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0034.jpg) why its rusted up like this and split is a mystery  :-\


(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0033.jpg) It is a bosch and probably the original so guess its lasted as long as it could  :y


Im still waiting for the new dispak to arrive but ill take some more pics and hope it all helps if anyone is going to try and do the job .
I never removed the plenum but can see you would gain a bit more access , i kneeled up on top of the engine and took plenty of breaks .

You may need a box of plaster's or 2  ;)


Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: PhilRich on 06 February 2012, 14:26:20
It gets in that state because the scuttle frequently leaks at the centre join which is inconveniently almost directly above the Dis Pack! Check to see if the soundproofing material below the scuttle is wet & if so dry it out, then run a good bead of clear silicone sealant between the join on the scuttle and also around the wiper spindles where they come through the scuttle  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 14:36:57
It gets in that state because the scuttle frequently leaks at the centre join which is inconveniently almost directly above the Dis Pack! Check to see if the soundproofing material below the scuttle is wet & if so dry it out, then run a good bead of clear silicone sealant between the join on the scuttle and also around the wiper spindles where they come through the scuttle  :y

Good idea phil , ill check that on reassembly . But the pack surely is made to be water tight and should not do this ? Anyway like its been said it will make a good door stop  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: amba on 06 February 2012, 14:44:36
As  said above...position of dispack is in the direct line of fire for water off the windscreen :'(,and unless the scuttle is well sealed and water can be diverted into the drains at each end it will happen again albeit to get into that state will take a fair while.

Its just one of those typical Omega issues  ;D ;D ;D...but well done getting it off and good idea about the bonnet :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 14:52:07
As  said above...position of dispack is in the direct line of fire for water off the windscreen :'(,and unless the scuttle is well sealed and water can be diverted into the drains at each end it will happen again albeit to get into that state will take a fair while.

Its just one of those typical Omega issues  ;D ;D ;D...but well done getting it off and good idea about the bonnet :y

That tip was given by dan-eboy and thought i would put into practice , thanks for the well done . Just thought it might come in handy anything i can help with for others  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 February 2012, 16:22:41
Hence why I rarely ever remove the scuttle for any jobs......as re-fitting and keeping it sealed can be challenging. As they left the factory they are generaly pretty good.
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: TheBoy on 06 February 2012, 17:57:41
I have an easy method for changing DIS packs.

Tools needed:
A plank of wood.
Another plank, AKA The Useless Student...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/Project%20TB1/IMG_1512.jpg)
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 18:02:34
I have an easy method for changing DIS packs.

Tools needed:
A plank of wood.
Another plank, AKA The Useless Student...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/Project%20TB1/IMG_1512.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

Take the rams off the bonnet next time then you wont have a crooked neck  :y :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: TheBoy on 06 February 2012, 18:25:39

Take the rams off the bonnet next time then you wont have a crooked neck  :y :y
But I didn't have any neck problems, I drank tea and ate a bacon sarnie...  ...no idea about tunnie...  ...who cares :P
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: aaronjb on 06 February 2012, 18:33:39
The question on my mind is.. why is Tunnie clearly wearing one of your t-shirts (based on how big it is on him)... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 18:47:28

Take the rams off the bonnet next time then you wont have a crooked neck  :y :y
But I didn't have any neck problems, I drank tea and ate a bacon sarnie...  ...no idea about tunnie...  ...who cares :P
;D  And what was the condition of the dispak  ???
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Ken T on 06 February 2012, 19:21:19
Well done on getting it out. At least you now know why it was missfiring  :y :y :y

Ken
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 19:34:43
Well done on getting it out. At least you now know why it was missfiring  :y :y :y

Ken

Thanks ken , picking up the new dispak tomorrow so i still have to re fit and try it , could be working on it most of the night as needing the car wed morning  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: dbug on 06 February 2012, 20:22:18
Removing the bonnet struts!!!! Don't bother you don't have to see it to remove it.  An 8mm deep socket helps  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2012, 20:33:09
Removing the bonnet struts!!!! Don't bother you don't have to see it to remove it.  An 8mm deep socket helps  :y
I just popped the ball sockets from the bonnet itself , didn't remove the struts  :y Only one real problem bolt holding the dispak down was the next to the cyl bank corner tight against the metal shroud so 2 small extensions on the ratchet plus a knuckle joint with 8mm socket did the job from the top . Dispak came out no problem through the gap i made by moving out all the pipes and connections around it  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Murph on 07 February 2012, 15:43:46
^^^ That's exactly how I did mine.
The problem I had was that the replacement I got was the wrong one (surprise!) so I mounted it below the air box pro tem - just til I get another (correct) one.

Hey ho... it's running!
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 07 February 2012, 17:13:40
Shop rang up today , yes we have your new dispak in today BUT the suppliers have sent the wrong one  >:( >:( >:( >:( great  ::) Another mig-less week as the part wont be in till thursday then prob 2 days hrs ;D putting it all back together  :D

Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: TheBoy on 07 February 2012, 18:17:38
Not sure if I have a spare in the garage, depending where in Northants you are ::)
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 07 February 2012, 18:45:24
Not sure if I have a spare in the garage, depending where in Northants you are ::)

PM  sent  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 February 2012, 19:19:21
I have an easy method for changing DIS packs.

Tools needed:
A plank of wood.
Another plank, AKA The Useless Student...
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a319/IamTheBoy/Project%20TB1/IMG_1512.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D :y

ps: plank of wood is good idea , I'm scared me or the mechanics will break something whenever we work :y
and the picture is a nice memory , keep it :)
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: tunnie on 08 February 2012, 08:27:15
Thats a few years old that picture, that t-shirt was one of my dads spares I think, which became a car working one.
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 08 February 2012, 18:12:57
2pm the phone went ," we have your coil pack in " ......wooo. Got it so i will be out in the baltic weather early in the morning fitting and re fitting bits and bobs if i can remember where it all goes back  ::) if my hands dont freeze ill take a few more pics and hopefully this nut busting car will run  ;D
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: dan-eboy on 08 February 2012, 19:08:18
Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 08 February 2012, 19:19:12
Fingers crossed!
Me too , better get stuck into it sharpish as its forcast 4 inches of snow here friday and my hip's playing up with all the climbing on top of the engine .
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 February 2012, 20:27:10
Good luck, EMD. Looks like you got it sorted  :y

I have just got to clean breathers at the weekend and replace plenum. Going to also take the HBV out and replace so I can tick that on my ''Done'' list of the many jobs that may/will come up.

When cleaning breathers is there any attention I need to give to the 4 tubes that attach to the breather bridge?

 :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: albitz on 08 February 2012, 20:36:24
Yep,take them off and lean them out. :y  RTFG.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 08 February 2012, 20:39:33
I usually take the breathers off and make sure the are clear all the way through , the only one that was partially blocked on mine was the small pipe to the metal housing like the one you asked about the other day and all the rest were clean . The one on the housing has a small brass connector which needed unblocking on mine , luckily it came out with the pipe after a bit of wriggling . In the past on my other migs some of the pipes were thick with mayo so used carb cleaner and a wire to poke through the mayo  :y

Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 February 2012, 20:41:31
The guide doesn't mention the 4 tubes Scralbs  :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90653.0
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: albitz on 08 February 2012, 20:44:17
It seems to count the Y piece as one tube,which I suppose it is.The other small one doesnt tend to get blocked up so much ime,but might as well clean it while your doing the others. :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 February 2012, 20:45:26
Cheers m8 ;) i take it carb cleaner down those 4 tubes is ok?  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: albitz on 08 February 2012, 20:47:56
Usually yes (remove them from the car first),but it depends how blocked they are.sometimes a good soak in petrol or similar helps if they are bad.A long,thin,stiff brush would be the ideal thing to push down the bigger one(s).
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 February 2012, 20:49:06
Usually yes (remove them from the car first),but it depends how blocked they are.sometimes a good soak in petrol or similar helps if they are bad.A long,thin,stiff brush would be the ideal thing to push down the bigger one(s).

Not sure what I'd do without you.... Lover.  :-* :-* :-* :D :D :D :y :y :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 08 February 2012, 20:50:47
Never done mine any harm , gunk ive used as well so all depends on how bad they are  :y On the prev mig the mayo had dried and blocked the pipes solid  :D No wonder the rocker gaskets blew when i put it in sports mode  >:(
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 February 2012, 20:55:15
Never done mine any harm , gunk ive used as well so all depends on how bad they are  :y On the prev mig the mayo had dried and blocked the pipes solid  :D No wonder the rocker gaskets blew when i put it in sports mode  >:(

I'm pretty sure I have some pipe cleaners I'm going to shove down there. If i need something a bit more ''industrial'' i'll raid the tool box  :y

When cleaning those 4 holes on the breather bridge (4 very small holes in the small circle thing lol) can i shove a needle down there and wiggle about to clean or would that do damage?  :-\ :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: albitz on 08 February 2012, 21:00:51
Plenty of carb cleaner blasted down there should do the trick.
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 08 February 2012, 21:02:05
If you mean the breather box , tbh i would use something plastic in the brass connector but it should clean easy with squirt from brake cleaner a few time or leave it to soak overnight  :y

Albs beat me to it  ;D
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 08 February 2012, 21:06:32
Cheers all  :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: omega3000 on 09 February 2012, 13:32:30
Finally we have lift off , job done and firing on all 6  :y

What a mess ... !!

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0036.jpg)

The culprit and 5 champion plugs and one NGK , the NGK was the hardest one to take out passenger side back . Someone never bothered with it on the last change  ::) ::)

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0038.jpg)

A handy ratchet set up for the dispak bolts  :y

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0035.jpg)

One for MR WEBBY ...the Y piece  ;D   :y

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/Photo0037.jpg)

Took about half hour to fit the coil pack and nearly 2 hrs putting everything back together around it  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: dan-eboy on 09 February 2012, 14:54:28
Nice one!  :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: TheBoy on 09 February 2012, 18:34:40
Another success story :y
Title: Re: Dispak duties !
Post by: Webby the Bear on 09 February 2012, 20:22:56
Well done matie. Cheers for the Y pic.  ;D ;D ;D

just posting up some pics in a few mins of some breather cleaning ive done today  :y

Well done EMD  :y :y :y

''OOF, and the dirt is gone''